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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore

Canada
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Posted - 29 Apr 2004 :  22:01:46  Show Profile Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I needed a place to vent... especially in light of what some idiot just said on the WotC Boards... http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=3282534#post3282534

I usually just ignore such posts, but I guess I'm starting to have my fill of imbeciles. Oh well... let me know what you think.

Arivia
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Canada
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  00:20:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Welcome to the library again, Purple Dragon Knight!
*ticks off another on the WotC Boards Refugee stick*
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VEDSICA
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  00:36:17  Show Profile  Visit VEDSICA's Homepage Send VEDSICA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just another reason, among a few as to why I don't go back there.

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Cherrn
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Denmark
323 Posts

Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  00:42:18  Show Profile Send Cherrn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Aw I still go there. I am a forum addict, in fact I just posted in that very same thread albeit with loadsa rambling because of the lateness. And yeah I agree he is a jerk, but cmon, there are jerks everywhere

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VEDSICA
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  00:50:16  Show Profile  Visit VEDSICA's Homepage Send VEDSICA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You are correct about jerks being everywhere.I guess I am still smarting about the whole novel thing.The grudge runs deep I guess.Maybe I have a little drow in my blood.

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Cherrn
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Denmark
323 Posts

Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  00:53:00  Show Profile Send Cherrn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah the novels thing ticked me off as well. Good thing we got good ol' Candlekeep. *hugs and kisses a wall* Mmmmmm dusty.

A wise man from Calimport once told me: "If a merchant puts sand in the flask of oil he's trying to sell you, then he isn't trying to sell you sand..."
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Darth KTrava
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  01:23:08  Show Profile  Visit Darth KTrava's Homepage Send Darth KTrava a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, the whole novels thing really bites. They're just as much a product of wotc as the game supplements are and you can't recommend your favs to a newbie nor ask questions about things in the books....

To quote a song: "The world is full of stupid people...."

At least not here, fortunately!

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  04:15:36  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
I usually just ignore such posts, but I guess I'm starting to have my fill of imbeciles. Oh well... let me know what you think.



Well, FYI, it's a little known fact that moon elves are actually purple until the sun changes their skin color to fair skin with hints of blue. It's best like this anyway as purple would be a very hard skin color for an artist to draw.
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Kuje
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  04:23:47  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Well, FYI, it's a little known fact that moon elves are actually purple until the sun changes their skin color to fair skin with hints of blue. It's best like this anyway as purple would be a very hard skin color for an artist to draw.



And drow turned grey when hit with the sun. :) For some reason I keep picturing elves all of sudden as sun chameleons (sp?). "Look Billy! If you shine the sun on them they change color!"

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  04:27:37  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kuje31
And drow turned grey when hit with the sun. :) For some reason I keep picturing elves all of sudden as sun chameleons (sp?). "Look Billy! If you shine the sun on them they change color!"



Now we just need to get the Croc Hunter to be a guide and we have a new show for television.
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Kuje
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  04:48:43  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Now we just need to get the Croc Hunter to be a guide and we have a new show for television.


Said with a australian (sp?) accent, "Cricky! Lookit that! It's a rare drow! See how when the sun hits it, it changed color! That means boys and girls that it hasn't learned to use daylight adaption yet."


For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  05:29:47  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kuje31

And drow turned grey when hit with the sun. :) For some reason I keep picturing elves all of sudden as sun chameleons (sp?). "Look Billy! If you shine the sun on them they change color!"



Remember the GI Joe figures that did that?

I, too, was getting tired of certain individuals on the WotC forums, and I was thinking that maybe I needed to stop going there as much, or at least cut down on the number of threads I participated in... And then I was wrongly banned, and my protests ignored...

Still, my fave examples of people I didn't deal well with over there:

The guy who had PCs who were gods, running around killing other gods, and none of the remaining deities were willing to do anything to stop it...

The individual who told me that even though there was absolutely nothing (even in the detailed write-up) to indicate that Qilué had special Chosen powers from Eilistraee, that didn't mean she lacked such powers.

And of course, all the "They should make a movie about Drizzit! It'd rule!" people... I batted heads with that crew more than once...

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Kuje
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  05:35:23  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by kuje31

And drow turned grey when hit with the sun. :) For some reason I keep picturing elves all of sudden as sun chameleons (sp?). "Look Billy! If you shine the sun on them they change color!"



Remember the GI Joe figures that did that?

I, too, was getting tired of certain individuals on the WotC forums, and I was thinking that maybe I needed to stop going there as much, or at least cut down on the number of threads I participated in... And then I was wrongly banned, and my protests ignored...

Still, my fave examples of people I didn't deal well with over there:

The guy who had PCs who were gods, running around killing other gods, and none of the remaining deities were willing to do anything to stop it...

The individual who told me that even though there was absolutely nothing (including a detailed write-up) to indicate that Qilué had special Chosen powers from Eilistraee, that didn't mean she lacked such powers.

And of course, all the "They should make a movie about Drizzit! It'd rule!" people... I batted heads with that crew more than once...



Yeah I remember those. :)

And yes some of the posters over there really like to butt heads with people.

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Chyron
Learned Scribe

Hong Kong
279 Posts

Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  07:12:46  Show Profile  Visit Chyron's Homepage Send Chyron a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In my very first post at the WOTC forums I was asking a question regarding the dates of certain events occuring in the novels of the War of the Spider Queen and The Hunters Blades series to plan for my campiagn timeline. And while some of these very things are listed in the PGtF (which I did not have at the time) I was give the curt notice about Novel discussion beign forbidden and blah blah blah...needless to say my free speech lifeforce was sucked out of me and I have never gone back. Long Live Candlekeep.

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Bookwyrm
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USA
4740 Posts

Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  07:13:10  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Darth KTrava

To quote a song: "The world is full of stupid people...."

At least not here, fortunately!



Oh, no, we get the stupid, the irritating, and the annoying here as well. Just not as many, though I can name a few names . . . .

Hell hath no fury like all of Candlekeep rising in defense of one of its own.

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Arivia
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Canada
2965 Posts

Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  07:18:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bookwyrm

quote:
Originally posted by Darth KTrava

To quote a song: "The world is full of stupid people...."

At least not here, fortunately!



Oh, no, we get the stupid, the irritating, and the annoying here as well. Just not as many, though I can name a few names . . . .



Exilion, that fundamentalist Christian guy, Cyric(and most derivatives thereof)...anyone I've forgotten?
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  07:29:24  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The fundamentalist guy is Jack Chick (and boy does he ever pick and choose his Bible quotations! ). I didn't count him, though, since he was never a member here. Probably thinks that even joining up to spout mangled quotations that "prove" we're all going to Hell would condemn him as well. (Or maybe he's avoiding real players, who might just be able to run him to a standstill like the characters in those comics of his. )

As for other names, I could certainly mention a few. However, they're either active members or people that only I found annoying. Of course, I do know there's another name you and I have in common.

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Arivia
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  07:34:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bookwyrm

The fundamentalist guy is Jack Chick (and boy does he ever pick and choose his Bible quotations! ). I didn't count him, though, since he was never a member here. Probably thinks that even joining up to spout mangled quotations that "prove" we're all going to Hell would condemn him as well. (Or maybe he's avoiding real players, who might just be able to run him to a standstill like the characters in those comics of his. )

As for other names, I could certainly mention a few. However, they're either active members or people that only I found annoying. Of course, I do know there's another name you and I have in common.



Oh, I didn't mean Chick-I meant that guy who went after you for a bit from Jack Archer...
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  08:40:24  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh, right. ::scratches head:: Of course, I only know what he said through some comments you made to me privately, since Alaundo deleted the posts before I came back. So when you said "fundamentalist guy" I obviously thought of Chick.

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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore

Canada
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  08:44:14  Show Profile Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Remember the GI Joe figures that did that?

Zartan was his name. Leader of the Dreadknocks (sp?)
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Lord Rad
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  08:50:50  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cherrn

Yeah the novels thing ticked me off as well. Good thing we got good ol' Candlekeep. *hugs and kisses a wall* Mmmmmm dusty.



LOL

Serves you right, Purple Dragon Knight

Lord Rad

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Brother Ezra
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  14:36:51  Show Profile  Visit Brother Ezra's Homepage Send Brother Ezra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You know, as annoying as it was to have every thread responded to with the virtues of Cyric or "Cyric would kick your god's butt", I kinda miss the old bird. His posts had a comforting sense of inevitability to them. Sort of like death and taxes. The sun may not rise tomorrow, but Cyric will still respond to any thread with some comment about Cyric. In a way he reminded me of the single-minded girl from the "American Pie" movies. No matter what the topic, the response would be "...and then, once, at band camp..."

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  15:53:55  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Remember the GI Joe figures that did that?

Zartan was his name. Leader of the Dreadknocks (sp?)



They made figures of his brother and sister, Zandar and Zarana, as well, and they did the same thing.

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SoulLord
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Mexico
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  16:42:38  Show Profile  Visit SoulLord's Homepage Send SoulLord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I usually still visit those lands but i have to say its more for research purposes as my time is best spent here and i enjoy the company much more.
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Lashan
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  17:12:16  Show Profile  Visit Lashan's Homepage Send Lashan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually, I am pretty happy about the "no novels" rule at the WOTC boards. Personally, I don't like the novels. It's great not to have to deal with those threads. I understand that I am in a minority on this one and I am not really trying to start a thread on it. Just sounding off.

I am annoyed with the WOTC boards in the past year or so, though. They just haven't been worth paying attention to. I used to go there and learn all sorts of interesting facts. Now, I go and just post what I know to someone who doesn't know. I don't learn as much as I used to from those boards. Also, it all seems to be about "Chosen Of" types of discussions or xxxx vs zzzzz type.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  18:56:32  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lashan

Actually, I am pretty happy about the "no novels" rule at the WOTC boards. Personally, I don't like the novels. It's great not to have to deal with those threads. I understand that I am in a minority on this one and I am not really trying to start a thread on it. Just sounding off.

I am annoyed with the WOTC boards in the past year or so, though. They just haven't been worth paying attention to. I used to go there and learn all sorts of interesting facts. Now, I go and just post what I know to someone who doesn't know. I don't learn as much as I used to from those boards. Also, it all seems to be about "Chosen Of" types of discussions or xxxx vs zzzzz type.



I never felt like discussing novels, so that rule shouldn't have affected me. I liked to go in and share my knowledge, or to give informed opinions as to what would happen if X happened in Y or to Z.

However, the way they enforced the no novels rule is what gets me. I participated in a thread where someone mentioned novels, and I got banned for discussing novels. And the thread was deleted, so I couldn't go back and prove that I'd not discussed novels!

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Lashan
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  19:00:26  Show Profile  Visit Lashan's Homepage Send Lashan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You got banned? permenantly? temporarily? That's crazy.
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Kuje
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  19:17:00  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lashan

You got banned? permenantly? temporarily? That's crazy.



I can back up Wooly. I've alrdy gotten one warning for "discussing novels."

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  20:19:46  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lashan

You got banned? permenantly? temporarily? That's crazy.



Indeed it is crazy. I had been on those forums for several months, and I had nearly a thousand posts to my name, if not more. I had gained respect as one who knew the Realms pretty well -- maybe not as well as some, but certainly better than a lot of the others.

I can go back if I wish, but I have to do so under a different name. And if I do this, I am forbidden from even referencing the old name...

'Twas my third warning. Only one of the three was specific to me. One was for posting on a thread where the initial poster had said something that made absolutely no sense. The grammar was just horrible, and made the intent of his post quite unclear. Others began mocking him. I didn't mock him, but I did agree that his post was unclear. Everyone on the thread was warned, regardless of what they'd said.

The second warning was when someone said it'd be great for Skip Williams to do a novel. I commented, and later received a warning for that. There was no actual novel discussion, it was the possibility of a novel.

The third one was something about Drizzt. All I'd said was that he'd had too much air-time for my liking, and to look at how many novels he'd been in. That was all I said. And yet, someone obviously said something bad enough that the entire thread was deleted (not locked, deleted), so when I got the general warning, I couldn't go back and prove my innocence.

I protested by e-mail, but I never received even a generic reply.

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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore

Canada
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  21:14:12  Show Profile Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Forget the WotC Boards man... I'll let you know if I see something good, but compared to the Candlekeep boards, it's definitely less entertaining out there.
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Darth KTrava
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USA
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Posted - 01 May 2004 :  00:22:46  Show Profile  Visit Darth KTrava's Homepage Send Darth KTrava a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brother Ezra

You know, as annoying as it was to have every thread responded to with the virtues of Cyric or "Cyric would kick your god's butt", I kinda miss the old bird. His posts had a comforting sense of inevitability to them. Sort of like death and taxes. The sun may not rise tomorrow, but Cyric will still respond to any thread with some comment about Cyric. In a way he reminded me of the single-minded girl from the "American Pie" movies. No matter what the topic, the response would be "...and then, once, at band camp..."



I guess he didn't like me denouncing Cyric to his "face"...... But then, I've never liked Cyric, the god, either as a mortal being or a deity....


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