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DDH_101
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 Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 05:05:54
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Okay, I've read about how Lhaeo is actually Prince Haedrak, who was secretly raised away from Tethyr so he wouldn't be assassinated. However, I cannot find any information on how he ended up being Elminster's scribe. Can anyone provide me any information on that?
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 05:10:42
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Originally posted by DDH_101
Okay, I've read about how Lhaeo is actually Prince Haedrak, who was secretly raised away from Tethyr so he wouldn't be assassinated. However, I cannot find any information on how he ended up being Elminster's scribe. Can anyone provide me any information on that?
HMM it might be in the article Ed wrote for Dragon way back when that also contains the Scribe NPC kit.......... No I don't recall the # :) |
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Garen Thal
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 06:13:07
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| There are several sources that combine to give a pretty solid picture of King Haedrak III ("Lhaeo") and his history. The most direct, FR7 (Hall of Heroes), says that he was given directly to Elminster for his education and training at just 6 months old. By 1357- when he was just 22 years old- Lhaeo was known publicly as Elminster's scribe (this is as early as the 1st Edition boxed set). Lands of Intrigue holds some more details of Lhaeo's life, and if one really needs the information, the Scribe NPC class (of which Lhaeo is a member, of 11th level, according to FR7) can be found in issue #62 of Dragon. |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 06:23:03
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| Hmmm... thanks for the info. But I don't understand why Elminster would accept a six-month old child. We all know that the Sage of Shadowdale is quite eccentric and isn't the type to adopt waywarding children. Did Mystra have an impact on his decision? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 07:39:10
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Elminster has served in the 'fatherly' role several times in the past, most notably as a foster parent to three of Mystra's other Chosen - Sylune, Storm, and the woman who would later became the Simbul.
Perhaps there is more to Lhaeo than we actually know?.
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Chyron
Learned Scribe
Hong Kong
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Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 08:38:25
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Some writings on the WOTC site suggest that the new scribe of ELminster is a woman (who apparently maintians the appearance of Lhaeo). Anyone have more detials of this new "Lhaeo" at all?  |
Just My Thoughts
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 10:30:12
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The details on Lhaeo's "adoption" can be found in the Lands of Intrigue boxed set by that worthy Steven Schend.
The new Lhaeo is quite mysterious. Ed has kept quiet about this individual on purpose, I'm guessing, to add a bit of mystery and spice to the Realms. And no, I know no more of her than the rest of you.
Hmm, might have to ping Ed after he finishes his taxes.
-- George Krashos
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 14:48:48
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George, I already have Lands of Intrigue. It doesn't mention how Lhaeo ended up in Elminster's hands however.
Actually, information of this new individual is mentioned in Elminster in Hell. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
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Posted - 28 Apr 2004 : 19:15:09
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I know about the Elminster in Hell reference. What I want to know is, whether we can expect any more information.
From his Excellency the Count of Alonmarch and his Majesty's Lord Historian, greetings.
His Royal Highness being so busy as to not be able to pen a missive himself, he asked if I should render a response via our loyal Chronicler.
Both the esteemed King Haedrak and myself remain hard at work, alongside the Court Sage Count Gamalon Idogyr and other worthies, on the Chronicla Tethyria, the official historical records of Tethyr. We approach the end of our 2nd full year of work and have only now received the bulk of comments from historians at the Vault of Sages and Candlekeep. Thus, this project of more estimable value for our kingdom remains our priority.
As it is, his royal highness also bids me tell you all that his biography is far in the future and he would choose to write that himself when the monarch's crown has passed on to his daughter and he has naught to worry him but the scraped knees of grandchildren. As the Princess Sybille only just celebrated her second birthday, the king regrets his tale shall be a long time before its full telling (and also to protect the lives and livelihoods of those who sheltered him through his youth, a secret shared with few in the South).
May the king and all his works prosper for many years to come, so say we all.
Count Vartan Thrynnar, Seneschal of the King's Library
Heavy parchment, lovely green wax seal, exquisite handwriting; I've missed these missives from the Realms the past few years. 
As for game info, I doubt there'll be much call for that until they update LOI for 3.5E; while I find him fascinating, Lhaeo/Haedrak is really a minor figure in the marketing sense of the Realms. Until he's been at least second fiddle in a novel, he doesn't show up on the radar as a salable or interesting figure for focus. <shrug> Maybe I'll send a query and see if WotC'd be interested in something for their website....hmm.......
Steven |
For current projects and general natter, see www.steveneschend.com
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 04:46:24
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Originally posted by DDH_101
George, I already have Lands of Intrigue. It doesn't mention how Lhaeo ended up in Elminster's hands however.
I guess that the brief description in Lands of Intrigue - Tethyr, p.35 isn't sufficient. The only thing I can see that need's adding is that Alustriel of Silverymoon gave Lhaeo to Elminster. A Harper thing from the looks of it.
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 04:48:57
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| Hmm... well that leads to ANOTHER question. How did Alustriel get Lhaeo? Lol. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 05:09:05
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Ummm ... if you read the LOI page I quoted you'll note he was born in Silverymoon.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 29 Apr 2004 : 06:38:47
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| I read the whole section, but I must have missed it... Thanks anyways. |
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