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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
 Posted - 25 Apr 2004 : 17:50:59
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It has come to my attention that far too many characters are becoming invincible gods that can lift a hand, and with a word, kill Asmodeus himself!  It is my opinion that this eliminates the fun of roleplaying a Realmsian character if all that happens is, "A masked assassin runs straight for the character, but is incinerated by the awsome might of (Insert Character Name here)." It is for this reason that I am sending my most notable roleplaying character (Tsabrak Teken'ghym, the Shadowlord) on a trip to the Nine Hells, from which he may or may not return. In any case, his power will be drastically reduced. The most recent battle on the Candlekeep grounds has left me speechless. Please, consider what effects your "uber-powerfulness" will have on others.
Thank you,
Shadowlord
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The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 25 Apr 2004 : 20:00:43
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| Shadowlord, why are you even complaining? This is all made up and just for fun. Oh yes, I guess my next inn character should be a carpenter who doesn't know how to wield a sword. Hmm... that will be interesting. |
"Trust in the shadows, for the bright way makes you an easy target." -Mask |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 25 Apr 2004 : 20:34:10
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If you recall, I never said as much. I just don't think that characters should be gods who can slay any and all opponents.  I'm only stating my opinion, not the opinions of everyone. This is what I think. It may not be what you think. I'm not asking you to adopt my opinions as your own, I'm merely asking you to consider it. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
Edited by - Shadowlord on 25 Apr 2004 20:39:05 |
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 25 Apr 2004 : 20:41:49
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Nay says I. Tis all in good fun. Actually the chaotic maelstrom that engulf the Inn grounds seems perfectly played. Villians created, battle erupted, Luck was on their side and they won... and all that had survived have gained a new sense of self. They may not like the new self but it tis with them none the less. Tis not the body count that matters, tis what the character is going through.
OOC:// The Character Deimos may have once seemed powerful ( In the battle previous to the current one) However, Whenever he has been locked into combat with another PC he has (and will continue to) fail in battle. After all there must be a victor and a defeated in any duel. Tis the role of Evil, to be a Villian, come up with grand schemes and let them fail. Theres more than just flinging flashy spells and evicerating many an enemy. Luck and Ingenuity, as well as fleshing out what drives the character is far more rewarding that dragon heads and so on. If, in able to see what drives other's characters, a semi-permanent battlefield is a small price to pay. I'm sure that there are many characters that seems a little one or two dimensional, but given time, they will enter a fourth as it is seen as what makes them...them. Now no need to hurl insults of spilt blood  . After all tis the character evolution that matters, not the kill count. So there it tis :BIC// ('Back Into Character' for those that are puzzled by this from us) |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 25 Apr 2004 : 20:51:52
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Well said, Deimos.  Mayhaps my response was a bit hasty... I shall consider the opinions of all who wish to respond to this thread. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 25 Apr 2004 : 21:13:14
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We simply wish all to have a say.. Although it was directed more to DDH_101's sarcasm than to thy response to it. Insult will only beget insult and nothing will be accomplished. I view this as a grand time to establish a set of codified ground rules for.. the Grounds and the Inn. True I chafe under more rules, but if some see the current battle as a hinderence (to which I say Nay once more, but that be our opinion) then perhaps we all should come to somesort of agreement. Yes? Now before Alaundo steps into this with a staff of Irritated Moderator... or Irritated Head Moderator and blast the Inn from existence (for which poor MaudDib would surely die of shock upon his return..We can just picture the face of our good barhand as he returns to a smoking ruin ... Sorry) I request that we all have a chance to speak up. I shall remain mutely silent though... except to perhaps recap things from time to time. What say thee fellow scribes? Shall our first task be to come to some sort of agreement?
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Salabasha
Learned Scribe
Portugal
216 Posts |
Posted - 26 Apr 2004 : 00:44:24
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OOC/// LOL... you just casual slap it away Come on people! Even the great lords of Demons and Devils and Gods as well, have their limits ///OOC
I know what you mean Shadow. My character was planned out as a someone who had been imbued with the essences of an Efreeti and a Horned Devil. True, each are tough dudes to kick ass, but in a short time, the Efreeti side was getting pwned. But still though, if the gods were to clash, what better place then Candlekeep to house their power? |
Life is like a box of chocolates. Once you eat the poisoned one you die. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 26 Apr 2004 : 00:57:42
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| Actually, it was the your post and the one before it that caused my astonishment. I forget who, but someone just casually slapped away a ball of hellish energies? Thank you for seeing my point, Salabasha. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Salabasha
Learned Scribe
Portugal
216 Posts |
Posted - 26 Apr 2004 : 01:25:23
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Originally posted by Shadowlord
Actually, it was the your post and the one before it that caused my astonishment. I forget who, but someone just casually slapped away a ball of hellish energies? Thank you for seeing my point, Salabasha.
Well, out of the two fireballs that I summoned, one was slapped away by Trafaldi and Seaamros simple took it full on. So, you know, feeling kind of weak here!
Of course, I might just turn gray, grow tusks, and brandish my +5 Longsword, +5 Battleaxe, +5 Heavy Mace, +5 Heavy Pick, +5 Scimitar and my most favourite... +5 lawful unholy ghost touch light flail with my 6 arms... and with my DR 50/+4, SR 47, (1,100 hp) and 78 AC... I might stand a chance! (Cause I am Hextor... Duh)
But in anycase, my devil shall come! And I will upgrade his sorry ass into a pit fiend! WooT! |
Life is like a box of chocolates. Once you eat the poisoned one you die. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 26 Apr 2004 : 01:33:09
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Of course.  However, do watch your language, this is a library.  |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Salabasha
Learned Scribe
Portugal
216 Posts |
Posted - 26 Apr 2004 : 01:45:03
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Originally posted by Shadowlord
Of course. However, do watch your language, this is a library.
What are you talking about? I was talking about his donkey. I was going to upgrade his donkey into a Pit Fiend.  |
Life is like a box of chocolates. Once you eat the poisoned one you die. |
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hammer of Moradin
Senior Scribe
USA
758 Posts |
Posted - 26 Apr 2004 : 15:15:23
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Good fantasy has to include a suspension of disbelief. We know that these things cannot happen (or can they? I wonder...), however making the actions involved with the characters seem real helps everyone enjoy the action more. If the character performs an action, back it up with how they perform that action. Otherwise take a few lumps. It's not drama if you don't feel for the character and believe they may get their butts kicked.
We are all doing this because we enjoy it and want to share our experiences with others. If the others don't enjoy it what's the point? Personally I enjoy playing characters to about 12th level. After that they become too powerful to interact with most normal situations without feeling some peril. By normal I mean just having the characters walk around a city without having a demon, lich, or dragon attacking them. It's the human element (or Dwarf, or Elf, or...) that keeps most of us coming back.
I'm sure I have more to say, but that's it for now. |
"Hurling himself upon his enemies, he terrified them with slaughter!"
Scribe for the Candlekeep Compendium
Candlekeep proverb: If a thing is said often enough, fools aplenty will believe it to be true. |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 26 Apr 2004 : 19:58:26
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You do all realize that this was exactly the situation that the D&D rules were invented to govern, don't you?
This is why I've never returned to the Inn (save for a time when I was asked a question). I can't stand this sort of thing. |
Hell hath no fury like all of Candlekeep rising in defense of one of its own.
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Cherrn
Learned Scribe
Denmark
323 Posts |
Posted - 04 May 2004 : 23:40:41
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Lol im reading through this right now. I absolutely loved Hammer of Moradin's post: "Mithimmar realizes that he is out of his league in this battle of "gods". He picks up his cloak noticing the broach is still intact, hefts his warhammer over his shoulder, and re-enters the inn. The display of power on the keep grounds was obviously an illusion, or someones grand delusion."
Lol that had me rolling on the floor |
A wise man from Calimport once told me: "If a merchant puts sand in the flask of oil he's trying to sell you, then he isn't trying to sell you sand..." |
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Salabasha
Learned Scribe
Portugal
216 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2004 : 02:18:08
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| Why? Were you on fire? |
Life is like a box of chocolates. Once you eat the poisoned one you die. |
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Cherrn
Learned Scribe
Denmark
323 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2004 : 10:21:31
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It was a brilliant reply to the ridiculous scene that was unfolding before Mithimmar's eyes.
And so you can understand it Salabasha, the internet term "Rofl" does not stand for Rolling on Fire Laughing, it stands for Rolling on the Floor Laughing, and I thought, that because "ROFL" is so widely used I wanted to write something different, thus removing the post from the sea of all the other posts with the term "ROFL" in them. Then when moderately intelligent people would read my post and me saying "that had me rolling on the floor" they would automatically know that I meant ROFL..... unlike you did, but you are forgiven Salabasha  |
A wise man from Calimport once told me: "If a merchant puts sand in the flask of oil he's trying to sell you, then he isn't trying to sell you sand..." |
Edited by - Cherrn on 05 May 2004 10:40:26 |
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MuadDib
Senior Scribe
South Africa
442 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2004 : 11:03:27
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Hem hem
To reiterate what the good Cardinal said, I don't think the smoking ruin of an inn would be a welcome sight to someone such as me who actually treasures him time in the inn. I enjoy the inn because it is the one (and might I add the only) place in the forum where I have any sort of role other than newb.
That being said, the overpowered...well power really that most people seem to display is well and what not, and I try to not get into power plays, perferring just to befriend everyone and just enjoy the game for what it is. I myself find immense pleasure in the exploits of Logan and his wonderful song, for me, that is more gratifying than a hundred overpowered spell battles.
I must point out though, in a strictly in character mode, that should anyone 'really' try a spell battle of whatever magnitude in the grounds of Candlekeep, I think retribution would be swift and final. That being said, those types of things are really out of character and in my opinion break the mood of the whole thing.
I have not read the posts, and will not read them either, since it did not involve me. But yeah, what the others said, let's just have fun. Why does everyone want to kill each other anyway? Make love not war (just not in the common room please ) |
MuadDib - Candlekeep Inn Barhand |
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hammer of Moradin
Senior Scribe
USA
758 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2004 : 23:53:11
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| Why thank you Cherrn. I just call it like I see it like me, uh my, alter ego Mithimmar. Gruff and stoic. |
"Hurling himself upon his enemies, he terrified them with slaughter!"
Scribe for the Candlekeep Compendium
Candlekeep proverb: If a thing is said often enough, fools aplenty will believe it to be true. |
Edited by - hammer of Moradin on 05 May 2004 23:54:18 |
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Cherrn
Learned Scribe
Denmark
323 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2004 : 00:26:13
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| Well it was a damn clever reply Hammer of Moradin |
A wise man from Calimport once told me: "If a merchant puts sand in the flask of oil he's trying to sell you, then he isn't trying to sell you sand..." |
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