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Kitira Gildragon
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Posted - 15 Nov 2002 :  14:25:12  Show Profile  Visit Kitira Gildragon's Homepage Send Kitira Gildragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Can dragons of different colors mate? (Say a blue and a black dragon? Or black and gold?)
If yes-

What do the offspring look like?

*One or the other parent (Like a drow-moon elf matching)
*A combination of both skin tones (like a half-elf's)?
*Or do they all hold the genes for every color?
*None of the above?

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Darwin Tenderfoot
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Posted - 15 Nov 2002 :  17:15:03  Show Profile  Visit Darwin Tenderfoot's Homepage Send Darwin Tenderfoot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you read the Draconamicon it tells all about dragons. Their origin and their gods and their mating... and so on. Hope this helps.

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Kitira Gildragon
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Posted - 17 Nov 2002 :  13:19:19  Show Profile  Visit Kitira Gildragon's Homepage Send Kitira Gildragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Darwin Tenderfoot

If you read the Draconamicon it tells all about dragons. Their origin and their gods and their mating... and so on. Hope this helps.

Darwin


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The Great Drizzt
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Posted - 18 Nov 2002 :  08:17:48  Show Profile  Visit The Great Drizzt's Homepage Send The Great Drizzt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They can mate, but the choose not to.
The Great Drizzt

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Kitira Gildragon
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Posted - 18 Nov 2002 :  14:11:39  Show Profile  Visit Kitira Gildragon's Homepage Send Kitira Gildragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
*pokes Drizzt* But saying they did? What would the offspring look like?

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Echon
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Posted - 22 Nov 2002 :  11:30:53  Show Profile  Visit Echon's Homepage Send Echon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kitira Gildragon

*pokes Drizzt* But saying they did? What would the offspring look like?



A combination of the two parents e.g. the offspring of a white and a red would result in a nice little pink baby dragon...

Imagine what horrors a creature like that could produce. (A)D&D would be swamped by little giggling barbie- and picachu-loving girls swayed by the cuteness of fuzzy miscoloured dragons.

So that is why dragons do not produce bastard children.

"If others had not been foolish, we should be so."

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Kitira Gildragon
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Posted - 22 Nov 2002 :  14:25:16  Show Profile  Visit Kitira Gildragon's Homepage Send Kitira Gildragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Every girls loves barbies at one point in time, man! You think that AD&D would be flooded with 'barbie and pikachu-loving little girls' just because of that? Not likely. When I was a little kid, it was their power and majesty that attracted me, not that they were 'cute and fuzzy'. *gags* Think about a green gold pairing or even black and gold. They're not fuzzy and if anything, I'd say they were more deadly than the parents if they have abilities of both.

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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Posted - 22 Nov 2002 :  15:05:10  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Great Drizzt

They can mate, but the choose not to.
The Great Drizzt


To illustrate Drizzt's comment a little, they don't choose to because of their natures (moral and ethical standards). This would make it very unlikely for a chromatic dragon to mate with a metalic dragon.

This aside from the aspect if it is technically possible. All dragons belong to the group: dragons. This doesn't mean they can interbreed, just as a dog and an elephant can't breed though they're both mammals. (I'm not a biology or species major so I might be slightly off on the details...)

I'm not sure if there is any 'official' ruling on dragons interbreeding, though if I were to create a union between two dragons, I would probably rule that the offspring would be one or the other color, not a mix.
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Kitira Gildragon
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Posted - 22 Nov 2002 :  16:54:42  Show Profile  Visit Kitira Gildragon's Homepage Send Kitira Gildragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My thanks, mellonamin, and as always I bow down before your infinite wisdom.
My next question is this: has it been explored in a novel/book?
says: Maybe...

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Edited by - Kitira Gildragon on 22 Nov 2002 16:57:12
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Bellua Aeneus Lacerta
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Posted - 22 Nov 2002 :  18:28:18  Show Profile  Visit Bellua Aeneus Lacerta's Homepage Send Bellua Aeneus Lacerta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If dragons can still take human form, why couldn't two meet that way, if they fooled each other.(Good anthology story)
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lowtech
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Posted - 22 Nov 2002 :  20:45:52  Show Profile  Visit lowtech's Homepage Send lowtech a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It might depend on the world they live in (like in Athas, humans and dwarves cannot breed naturally, and Torilian half-dwarves differ from Krynn half-dwarves).
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Echon
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Posted - 23 Nov 2002 :  10:42:32  Show Profile  Visit Echon's Homepage Send Echon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kitira Gildragon

Every girls loves barbies at one point in time, man! You think that AD&D would be flooded with 'barbie and pikachu-loving little girls' just because of that? Not likely. When I was a little kid, it was their power and majesty that attracted me, not that they were 'cute and fuzzy'. *gags* Think about a green gold pairing or even black and gold. They're not fuzzy and if anything, I'd say they were more deadly than the parents if they have abilities of both.



Just because my post didn't contain a or a , it doesn't mean that it was supposed to be taken literally.

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Kitira Gildragon
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Posted - 25 Nov 2002 :  14:13:59  Show Profile  Visit Kitira Gildragon's Homepage Send Kitira Gildragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bellua Aeneus Lacerta

If dragons can still take human form, why couldn't two meet that way, if they fooled each other.(Good anthology story)


Also, can there be half-draconic children? What do they look like? Do they have traits of both parents or do they take after just one? Which one?

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Echon
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Posted - 25 Nov 2002 :  16:02:41  Show Profile  Visit Echon's Homepage Send Echon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kitira Gildragon
Also, can there be half-draconic children? What do they look like? Do they have traits of both parents or do they take after just one? Which one?



Seeing that you are so curious, it should not be that difficult to get hold of Draconominon - unless you have any moral objections not to.

-Echon

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Kitira Gildragon
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Posted - 25 Nov 2002 :  16:37:10  Show Profile  Visit Kitira Gildragon's Homepage Send Kitira Gildragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Echon
Seeing that you are so curious, it should not be that difficult to get hold of Draconominon - unless you have any moral objections not to.
-Echon


*giving Echon an impish grin* You would think that. Actually, my parent's don't exactly *approve* of my purchase of Forgotten Realms products outside PC games. If I need to go anywhere, I have to ask them and they always ask what I'm buying & check. Online buying has to go through them as well. Next to that, I have no idea where to find it, so even if I could it wouldn't help.

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Echon
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Posted - 25 Nov 2002 :  17:09:15  Show Profile  Visit Echon's Homepage Send Echon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kitira Gildragon
*giving Echon an impish grin* You would think that. Actually, my parent's don't exactly *approve* of my purchase of Forgotten Realms products outside PC games. If I need to go anywhere, I have to ask them and they always ask what I'm buying & check. Online buying has to go through them as well. Next to that, I have no idea where to find it, so even if I could it wouldn't help.



I suppose you are under 18 then. And regarding your parents, do they think Bill Schnoebelen is a great guy or what is going on?

Since a lot of AD&D products (especially D&D, AD&D 1st ED, Spelljammer, Darksun, Greyhawk and those rare campaign worlds) are very hard to come by these days I would suggest getting eDonkey2000 or some similar program. A LOT of these products can be found in .pdf format. Which of course is illegal.

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lowtech
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Posted - 25 Nov 2002 :  19:41:01  Show Profile  Visit lowtech's Homepage Send lowtech a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Echon
And regarding your parents, do they think Bill Schnoebelen is a great guy or what is going on?



Who the Hell is Bill Schnoebelen?
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Echon
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Posted - 25 Nov 2002 :  22:17:24  Show Profile  Visit Echon's Homepage Send Echon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Some ass on an anti-D&D trip. It is some years ago, though. Very serious about it. Try searching for him and you will be shocked.

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Kitira Gildragon
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Posted - 26 Nov 2002 :  12:57:31  Show Profile  Visit Kitira Gildragon's Homepage Send Kitira Gildragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Close enough. *rolls eyes* I'd have to use my dad's PC and he never lets me on it. *scowls* He also doesn't like having anything 'illegal' on the PC. Unfortunately, he's a PC buff, so he knows more than most parents do. As people here say: "My a$$ would be grass"

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Frey
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Posted - 27 Nov 2002 :  09:32:43  Show Profile  Visit Frey's Homepage Send Frey a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Echon
A LOT of these products can be found in .pdf format. Which of course is illegal.
the .pdf-format is not illegal as such (though for other reasons I would vote it to be ).
Truth is that there are a lot of illegal copies floating around in cyberspace (in .pdf-format and other). Luckily there also loads of stuff available as freeware* nowadays. My collection of legal .pdf-FR-stuff, doesn't fit on a single CDR, to mention something.
Ahrm ... trouble is I can't remember where to find them. But someone will, probably that bloke Mumadar again (he most often comes up with the right url irl)

this is a challenge of course: who's first to help this teen(y) girl on the address of legal D&D and FR downloads?

- Imagine ... there's no imagination. -

(remember Frey is just a PC)
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Posted - 27 Nov 2002 :  17:05:43  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm sure there's a link on the Candlekeep website, but here is the link to the free downloads on the WotC site: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/dx20020121x
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Echon
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Posted - 27 Nov 2002 :  17:33:58  Show Profile  Visit Echon's Homepage Send Echon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mumadar Ibn Huzal

I'm sure there's a link on the Candlekeep website, but here is the link to the free downloads on the WotC site: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/dx20020121x




Thank you. That is very useful.

-Echon

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-William Blake
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Alaundo
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Posted - 27 Nov 2002 :  18:08:10  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mumadar Ibn Huzal
I'm sure there's a link on the Candlekeep website, but here is the link to the free downloads on the WotC site: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/dx20020121x



Well Met

Indeed there is, the page youre looking for on this site is on the main page of Tethtorils Bookshelf. But ill post the link here anyway: http://www.candlekeep.com/bookshelf/downloads.htm

Im not sure how up to date it is, ill have one of the scribes check it out.

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Kitira Gildragon
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Posted - 29 Nov 2002 :  00:02:12  Show Profile  Visit Kitira Gildragon's Homepage Send Kitira Gildragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My thanks to you all. I will be sure to check out these sites.

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