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Markustay
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Posted - 02 Feb 2018 :  22:20:50  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So it turns out Kyuss has really been all over FR all along?

Well dip me in Worg slorg!


Attempting to access that map again... I deleted over a hundred layers I'm pretty sure I was done with... fingers crossed...

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Fineva
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Posted - 02 Feb 2018 :  23:19:57  Show Profile Send Fineva a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

So it turns out Kyuss has really been all over FR all along?

Well dip me in Worg slorg!


Attempting to access that map again... I deleted over a hundred layers I'm pretty sure I was done with... fingers crossed...



The Laboratory was used for pressing. Unlike normal folk that press flowers the Netherese pressed souls, hence General Hazirawn pressed into the sword Hazirawn. This offers great possibilities for those who like to press Chosen, etc.

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Markustay
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"When Gods start 'scrapbooking', things can go very wrong."

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Fineva
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Posted - 19 Aug 2018 :  01:32:52  Show Profile Send Fineva a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah HA! Got it!
For news

The Red War is finished its first stage. Though Rumors have it that Szass Tam was defeated personally for every one such rumor there is one saying he was a clone or some such.
The city of Mulmaster is now being fortified similarly to the Thaymount, with threats that for every Thayan death 3 mulmaster items will perish. Factions are told to submit their rosters for safety as anyone not on a roster will be fair game. (We believe that uh huh)

((OOC; it appears the head DMs -admins- have had a fit of pique, we shall see if they decide to control factions further. Currently this player motivated war was conducted by murder hoboes pushing for fun. Factions lost all in game benefits. The admins may have done this independent of the player decisions, but we shall see))

Partial text of Selfarils last words; "High Blade Selfaril is in a fit of pique with senior members of the Factions. “In your arrogance you assumed that the people of Mulmaster were dupes of Thay. That we, who have controlled the wizards of our city would succumb to the rule of Thay in gratitude for her help with the rifts. You political innocents! With your bumbling and posturing have ruined this city! Long range political plans, a dance for those of subtle intellect, which you seem to lack, lie in ruins. They have abandoned controlling the rifts! That alone could destroy the city eventually, but your declarations have born bitter fruit. Now an army of undead sits on the hills above and the city has no hope of remaining free, even if just in name."

He was obviously holding back, or perhaps the profanity was untranslatable

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Thraskir Skimper
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Posted - 19 Aug 2018 :  06:14:09  Show Profile Send Thraskir Skimper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Some might 'Thay' that the Civil War if that is what you want to call it, is more an expansion of the Thayan borders with a Core Thay under the influence of Bane, more or less and the expansion of Thay outside the traditional borders a resultant of the so called Civil War and a convenient method of populating and influencing the areas around the previously setup Enclaves. Good thing they were their, almost as if it was planned and the others required a 'push' to leave Thay proper and reinforce the Enclaves.

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Fineva
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Posted - 20 Aug 2018 :  04:01:17  Show Profile Send Fineva a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This thread calls into question the above 9th level parts of Mystra's ban http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10527
Following up on this and Acereraks entrance into Chult, just how far is this ban now? Acereraks history is in Greyhawk, Szass Tam is interested in Netherese batteries with pieces of Kyuss inside, the Netherese were great planar travellers.

Given the above, how would you create a trap for a red Wizards in the plane So? Remember that they are also in spelljammers and reasonably competent. On the other hand stepping on too many godly toes might have Mystra create a new ban, or just kill them off. This goes for the other types of wizards, but currently the Red are targets.

I think Tam has some idea of stepping into extra planar space to set off epic spells free of the ban. Call it a hunch or perhaps the end encounter of the Red War epic adventure! (It's in print, but rather not give spoilers as its ongoing)

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Thraskir Skimper
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Posted - 20 Aug 2018 :  09:41:25  Show Profile Send Thraskir Skimper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fineva

This thread calls into question the above 9th level parts of Mystra's ban http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10527
Following up on this and Acereraks entrance into Chult, just how far is this ban now? Acereraks history is in Greyhawk, Szass Tam is interested in Netherese batteries with pieces of Kyuss inside, the Netherese were great planar travellers.

Given the above, how would you create a trap for a red Wizards in the plane So? Remember that they are also in spelljammers and reasonably competent. On the other hand stepping on too many godly toes might have Mystra create a new ban, or just kill them off. This goes for the other types of wizards, but currently the Red are targets.

I think Tam has some idea of stepping into extra planar space to set off epic spells free of the ban. Call it a hunch or perhaps the end encounter of the Red War epic adventure! (It's in print, but rather not give spoilers as its ongoing)



Which Red Wizards?

Inside or outside Thay?

Mystra doesn't kill Red Wizards, other way around maybe.

One doesn't need to use The Silver Weave to cast spells. There is the Shadow Weave and we Red Wizards are working on our own Red Weave.

Arch Zulkir Szass Tam is for all intents the Chosen of Bane, although there is more to this storey, than has been told so far.

You don't have to be in a different plane to use a different weave.

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Fineva
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Posted - 20 Aug 2018 :  11:01:40  Show Profile Send Fineva a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the ideas Red Wizard Skimper.
Combining them with the Mulmaster situation for examination by other sages.

Are there any more contributors? I could use a direction to fdetermine whether Mystra can combine with Shar (a wiki idea elsewhere)
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Fineva
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Where in current times are Danilo Thann & Arilyn Moonblade?

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 24 Aug 2018 :  03:25:58  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fineva

Where in current times are Danilo Thann & Arilyn Moonblade?



Given that it's been 100+ years, and Arilyn was already in her mid-40s, it's rather likely that they've died of old age. Though it is possible that Danilo's magic and trace elven blood has kept him around, I think it unlikely.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 24 Aug 2018 :  13:44:13  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Fineva

Where in current times are Danilo Thann & Arilyn Moonblade?



Given that it's been 100+ years, and Arilyn was already in her mid-40s, it's rather likely that they've died of old age. Though it is possible that Danilo's magic and trace elven blood has kept him around, I think it unlikely.




Damned if I can remember where, but something's making me think that they hinted at Danilo becoming something more powerful that might aid with this.... however, I may just be thinking of him becoming a masked lord. Given his relationship with Khelben though, I could see him somehow or other gaining the attention of a deity like Oghma or Milil who might want a servitor with both training as a wizard and bard, a good relationship with the chosen of Mystra, being a masked lord of Waterdeep, etc.... Furthermore, given what we know of how clone works NOW... its not outside the realm of possibility that he keeps himself alive by periodically making a younger clone of himself.

Arilyn though, as a half elf, she'd be extremely old, but possibly still around since the PH for 5e says half elves often exceed the age of 180. That being said, if she's with Danilo, the clone option isn't "caster only".... not sure if she'd take it, but....

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sleyvas
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Posted - 24 Aug 2018 :  13:44:45  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Fineva

Where in current times are Danilo Thann & Arilyn Moonblade?



Given that it's been 100+ years, and Arilyn was already in her mid-40s, it's rather likely that they've died of old age. Though it is possible that Danilo's magic and trace elven blood has kept him around, I think it unlikely.




Damned if I can remember where, but something's making me think that they hinted at Danilo becoming something more powerful that might aid with this.... however, I may just be thinking of him becoming a masked lord. Given his relationship with Khelben though, I could see him somehow or other gaining the attention of a deity like Oghma or Milil who might want a servitor with both training as a wizard and bard, a good relationship with the chosen of Mystra, being a masked lord of Waterdeep, etc.... Furthermore, given what we know of how clone works NOW... its not outside the realm of possibility that he keeps himself alive by periodically making a younger clone of himself.

Arilyn though, as a half elf, she'd be extremely old, but possibly still around since the PH for 5e says half elves often exceed the age of 180. That being said, if she's with Danilo, the clone option isn't "caster only".... not sure if she'd take it, but....

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 24 Aug 2018 :  15:42:04  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
He gave up being a Lord of Waterdeep -- or he at least intended to.

Oghma or Milil keeping him around for some reason is an interesting idea... I'm not sure that I'm sold on it, but it's an interesting idea.

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Thraskir Skimper
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Posted - 25 Aug 2018 :  02:27:27  Show Profile Send Thraskir Skimper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What happened to the Beholder Corps?

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The Masked Mage
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Posted - 25 Aug 2018 :  06:17:41  Show Profile Send The Masked Mage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So... catching up... the temple of elemental evil is relocated to Mulmaster in the Realms now?
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sleyvas
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Posted - 27 Aug 2018 :  14:18:48  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Masked Mage

So... catching up... the temple of elemental evil is relocated to Mulmaster in the Realms now?



From Princes of the Apocalypse adventure:

The threat of Elemental Evil surfaces in different worlds of the multiverse whenever the force known as the Elder Elemental Eye tests its strength. In its current incarnation, Elemental Evil arises in the Sumber Hills. The scattered towns and isolated homesteads of this frontier now face a dire threat. If the forces of Elemental Evil can’t be defeated before they grow, madness and destruction could spread unchecked through the North.

The presence of Elemental Evil in the Sumber Hills goes back thousands of years, when a sect of renegade drow discovered the extensive caverns beneath the Sumber Hills and claimed it as their territory. These dark elves venerated a terrible god of primordial evil, and they built a shrine to this nameless power. In time, the ancient drow cult faded away (or was wiped out), and the place known as the Temple of the Elder Elemental Eye was forgotten for centuries.



So, in the realms, the temple of elemental evil is located in the north (roughly southwest of the High Forest). But some (admittedly non-canon) adventures being published by the adventurer's league are placing followers of those entities in Mulmaster.

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Balmar Foghaven
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Posted - 31 Aug 2018 :  06:32:30  Show Profile Send Balmar Foghaven a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What exactly was the aftermath of the Red War in Mulmaster, or is it an ongoing affair? I can't seem to find any relevant posts online, since most of the threads I searched are from March 2018 or earlier.

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TBeholder
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quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

Selfaril is once again High Blade of Mulmaster after a century of being trapped in a gem.

Derp intensifies.
But which Selfaril? The real one, or?..
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

Also, I find it interesting that they give a picture of Dar'lon Ma that is especially white-skinned (totally expected for a Mulan).... but his description says "Tall, dark-skinned, and broad shouldered, Dar’lon Ma . Also, he's described as having the build of a professional wrestler. His picture also LOOKS like he's wearing a wrestler's championship belt.

Single-keyword search?

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sleyvas
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quote:
Originally posted by TBeholder

quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

Selfaril is once again High Blade of Mulmaster after a century of being trapped in a gem.

Derp intensifies.
But which Selfaril? The real one, or?..
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

Also, I find it interesting that they give a picture of Dar'lon Ma that is especially white-skinned (totally expected for a Mulan).... but his description says "Tall, dark-skinned, and broad shouldered, Dar’lon Ma . Also, he's described as having the build of a professional wrestler. His picture also LOOKS like he's wearing a wrestler's championship belt.

Single-keyword search?



From what I'm reading in that module... it sounds like the real one


Here's from DDEX2-14 The Sword of Selfaril
Adventure Background
The city of Mulmaster can best be described as a city of pessimistic dynamism. There is a strong negative energy about the city despite the industrious, hardworking attitude of its people. Mulmasterites are patient, relentless, exploitative people struggling to live as well as they can within a dog-eat-dog city where corruption is widespread and life is cheap.

Over a century before the present day, the ruler of Mulmaster, High Blade Selfaril Uoumdolphin was deposed by his identical twin brother, Rassendyll. Not having the stomach to outright murder his brother, Rassendyll had Selfaril trapped in a soul gem, which he then had mounted in the hilt of his blade.
Now, against all expectations, the sword has been found. Selfaril has been struggling to escape his magical bondage, and with the help of the characters, he can either reclaim the office of High Blade – or perish as a pretender to the throne. The Fate of Selfaril Uoumdolphin Selfaril Uoumdolphin, the former High Blade of Mulmaster, was betrayed by his twin brother Rassendyll in 1375 DR. With the aid of Fzoul Chembrul, Rassendyll trapped his brother in a soulgem fitted into the pommel of his sword. For the next century, the sword would disappear from history only to wind up in the hands of the Dwarvish king, Iorn Ludwakazar. In the events of DDEX2-4 Mayhem in the Earthspur Mines, the sword--containing the soul of Selfaril Uoumdolphin--was reclaimed.


As to your second question.... sorry TBeholder, you often ask questions so vaguely that I can't make hide nor hair of what you're asking about.... unless you're just saying "yeah, they didn't research"... but for all I know he has Rashemaar blood and Tam has become less focused on having the Mulan race itself ruling.

Still, I like Dar'lon Ma even if its only because he helps accomplish the goal of a "Thayan"/"red wizard" expansion not under Szass Tam's control. They may have to be careful in how they interact with the people of Mulmaster itself.


BTW, I know we're talking 5e rules, but the Cloaks have always seemed to fit the concept of diviner/psionics (so in 3.5e lingo, they'd make great cerebremancers). Given that the people of Jhaamdath relocated many individuals into Impiltur, I could see a faction of these migrating.

I also mentioned in another thread that I love the concept of the Chronicles of the Deryni, and I truly would love the idea that in Impiltur the rulers have some kind of "awakened" psionic talents (including the "paladins"... some of whom might just be psychic warriors or divine minds, or dabblers in both). This could simply be portrayed as just wild talents as well. Perhaps there's even something to the Crown of Narfell (or other Impilturian crowns) and awakening these powers. Given that what a Udoxias did was make certain powers available to an individual, if these crowns had crystals "carved from" a destroyed udoxias... maybe they make additional abilities available to the royal as long as they are within a few miles of the crown, etc...

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

Phillip aka Sleyvas

Edited by - sleyvas on 31 Aug 2018 13:17:40
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Wooly Rupert
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I've always felt that Mulmaster wasn't all that far from being under Thayan control, anyway. That's why my spin on the Thayan Civil War has Thay-in-Exile operating out of Mulmaster.

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George Krashos
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Posted - 01 Sep 2018 :  02:41:45  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Dwarvish king, Iorn Ludwakazar"

Do people say these names out loud before they commit them to print? Sheesh ...

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sleyvas
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quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

"Dwarvish king, Iorn Ludwakazar"

Do people say these names out loud before they commit them to print? Sheesh ...

-- George Krashos



He was a famed king who was known for having a bear that would entertain his court. The bear was named Fawzae and he was known for his catch phrase "Waka Waka" which always made king Ludwakazar laugh uproariously.

I obviously won't get into the antics of Kaermet the batrachi bard, Myus Paeaggy the orc priestess of sune, and the mongrelman known as Gaownzo known for his infatuations with chickens.

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Fineva
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Posted - 02 Sep 2018 :  23:28:20  Show Profile Send Fineva a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Legend:
Fineva received an obsidian steed, generated a nightmare and explored the planes.
Szass Tam demanded names from all factions in Red War and got them.
Many left factions or joined other factions to avoid this.
Mulmaster has seen the beginning of the end for all encompassing factions.

The rules;
All intelligent items and dragon masks removed, trade in for treasure points (24)
Fineva has the mask change into a staff of the magi, gets a level of wizard, that mask DID have hidden power, Ed!
There are no more gold rewards for modules, nor XP.
Advancement points for characters per module and book.

The results above are changes made for Adventure League, the rest of you just carry on.
End report.
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Fineva
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Posted - 10 Feb 2023 :  22:38:05  Show Profile Send Fineva a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fineva


Ah HA! Got it! Link avoided, finally.

The Red War is finished its first stage. Though Rumors have it that Szass Tam was defeated personally for every one such rumor there is one saying he was a clone or some such.
The city of Mulmaster is now being fortified similarly to the Thaymount, with threats that for every Thayan death 3 mulmaster items will perish. Factions are told to submit their rosters for safety as anyone not on a roster will be fair game. (We believe that uh huh)

((OOC; it appears the head DMs -admins- have had a fit of pique, we shall see if they decide to control factions further. Currently this player motivated war was conducted by murder hoboes pushing for fun. Factions lost all in game benefits. The admins may have done this independent of the player decisions, but we shall see))

Partial text of Selfarils last words; "High Blade Selfaril is in a fit of pique with senior members of the Factions. “In your arrogance you assumed that the people of Mulmaster were dupes of Thay. That we, who have controlled the wizards of our city would succumb to the rule of Thay in gratitude for her help with the rifts. You political innocents! With your bumbling and posturing have ruined this city! Long range political plans, a dance for those of subtle intellect, which you seem to lack, lie in ruins. They have abandoned controlling the rifts! That alone could destroy the city eventually, but your declarations have born bitter fruit. Now an army of undead sits on the hills above and the city has no hope of remaining free, even if just in name."

He was obviously holding back, or perhaps the profanity was untranslatable

Mod edit: Let's avoid sharing that link, please. At least some of the content on that site is pirated, and pirated content is explicitly forbidden by the
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Edited by - Fineva on 10 Feb 2023 22:40:36
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