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Icewolf
Learned Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 10 Apr 2004 : 03:16:42
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My old group broke up. I am so *[wink]heartbroken[wink]* that I have decided to start work on another adventure to 'take my mind off of my grief'
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Question: Is there any source material on an Atlantis type setting?
I'm looking to start the adventure out with 1st level characters, but by the time they get to this Atlantean portion of the campaign, they should be 6-8th level.
Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
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* translate to: Icewolf does a happy dance on the old group's collective grave!
(For those of you not familiar with my group's exploits, take the most annoying group of gamers you know, now make them have IQs of 3 or 4. Now make them think they have the entire rulebook memorized (Incorrectly)
Now, I wish I had ^ that group...
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 10 Apr 2004 : 03:44:26
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| Avalanche Press released a D20 product called, I believe, Twilight of Atlantis. It contained to my knowledge details on how to run a campaign set in Atlantis. You might want to check out their web site to find out more information. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 10 Apr 2004 : 05:21:40
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As well as the tome Sirius mentioned, there was also a rather extensive campaign site that offered a free setting to download that combined the best elements of the myths of Atlantis (exluding all of Plato's remarks and thoughts), with the concepts of the sunken city of R'lyeh, from the Cthulhu Mythos. I obtained a copy myself, mainly because the material used from the CoC was relevant for one of my own Cthulhu games that I was running at the time.
The writer did some significant research for this project, although I did take issue with some of the books he drew his knowledge from. I'll look for the link and email it out to you.
I'd just as soon send the campaign setting to you instead, but I don't have the permission to distribute it. Also, you have to register at the site, and contribute to the forums on a semi-regular basis in order to download any of the game material.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 10 Apr 2004 : 05:27:58
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| The Sea of Fallen Stars sourcebook, for 2nd edition, focuses in part on the undersea city of Myth Nantar... However, the only thing it's got in common with Atlantis is that it's underwater. Still, it may prove useful. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 10 Apr 2004 : 05:33:51
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Good suggestion Wooly...
Ah yes, and don't forget the Wyrmskull Throne adventure/sourcebook. There was some material about Myth Nantar in that particular tome as well.
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 10 Apr 2004 : 07:18:52
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Is Myth Nantar Netherese? THAT would just be perfect. Sunken city from the time of sky cities, throw in a couple of Elder Gods (Cthulhu, Dagon, Hydra, etc) And thy hast a pretty thick plotline... (twisted, out there bordering on insanity plotline... but good storytelling none the less... perhaps tone it down a bit from some of HP lovecraft's work though... after all in that line, win or loose, the world is still doomed , just later rather than sooner) |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 10 Apr 2004 : 07:37:34
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Originally posted by Cardinal Deimos
Is Myth Nantar Netherese? THAT would just be perfect. Sunken city from the time of sky cities, throw in a couple of Elder Gods (Cthulhu, Dagon, Hydra, etc) And thy hast a pretty thick plotline... (twisted, out there bordering on insanity plotline... but good storytelling none the less... perhaps tone it down a bit from some of HP lovecraft's work though... after all in that line, win or loose, the world is still doomed, just later rather than sooner)
Nah, the two Netherese cities in the Sea of Fallen Stars are both in ruins. The more intact of the two is near Aglarond, and the Simbul has already had people scouring the ruins.
The onther enclave crashed, and tumbled down a slope... So the ruins were pretty thoroughly smashed. |
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Icewolf
Learned Scribe
USA
214 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2004 : 18:10:56
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Excellent, excellent. Expected nothing less!
Now the next thing: Where on Toril could it be? While I am passably educated in Faerunian geography, the rest of Toril is an utter mystery to me. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 10 Apr 2004 : 18:44:28
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quote:
Originally posted by Icewolf
Excellent, excellent. Expected nothing less!
Now the next thing: Where on Toril could it be? While I am passably educated in Faerunian geography, the rest of Toril is an utter mystery to me.
Hells it could be any where off the west of Faerun. When the elves created Evermeet they ripped Faerun apart. (That created the Moonshaes as well, IIRC). So maybe it was a part of Faerun that got ripped off and sunk when the elves created Evermeet.... So stick it any where in the sea to the west of Faerun.... |
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Wood Elf Ranger
Senior Scribe
USA
627 Posts |
Posted - 10 Apr 2004 : 18:51:24
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Do you need some new players Icewolf? You should know I haven't played the PnP version before but your campaign sounds like a lot of fun and I would love to learn how to play. One big plus is that I KNOW I don't know all the rules
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 11 Apr 2004 : 07:25:55
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Originally posted by Icewolf
Excellent, excellent. Expected nothing less!
Now the next thing: Where on Toril could it be? While I am passably educated in Faerunian geography, the rest of Toril is an utter mystery to me.
An idea that has wandered thru my mind was that of a Netherese city that was built on the ocean floor, with a dome of air above it. I'd set it somewhere off the Sword Coast, more to the North than the South, and certainly not terribly close to any settled areas.
When Netheril fell, the air shield dissipated. Thus many, many Netherese were either drowned or crushed by the sudden pressure... and some are still around as some weird magically adept form of undead!
I'd not make them liches, but I'd certainly give them a good degree of power. And of course, they keep the area around their city free of all the other intelligent races -- the undersea races have learned that that area is forbidden, though they may not remember the reasons why. After all, it has been 1700 years.
Now, to involve the PCs... Maybe one has some connection to an undersea race (or a prominent NPC does). These undead Netherese are for some reason now expanding their territory, and there's a settlement that is now threatened by this... Actually, it could even be an island settlement that the Netherese have for some reason decided to eradicate.
Another possibility is that Umberlee has noticed these guys, and wants to expand her worship into their city... So the PCs have to somehow prevent this...
Or the head of the Kraken Society has discovered these guys, and wants the power they represent. So the KS would use the PCs as unwitting pawns to contact these Netherese, and perhaps forge some sort of pact with them. The PCs succeed, but then find out what they've really done!
Anyway, some ideas from the random depths of me mind.  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 11 Apr 2004 : 07:33:58
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Wooly, by dome of air I'm assuming you mean something similar, or like the properties offered by the unique mythal that surrounded Myth Nantar that allows land-dwellers to breathe air when underwater?.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 11 Apr 2004 : 08:26:31
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Originally posted by The Sage
Wooly, by dome of air I'm assuming you mean something similar, or like the properties offered by the unique mythal that surrounded Myth Nantar that allows land-dwellers to breathe air when underwater?.
Well, as I recall, the mythal over Myth Nantar allows both air breathers and water breathers to breath normally. That was not what I had in mind.
I was picturing some major, mythallar-linked spell that actually created a dome of breathable air over the city. That way, the inhabitants could live their lives normally -- they'd not need to waterproof their spellbooks or tie their dirty clothes to the floor to keep them from floating off.
So for all intents, it'd be like a city anywhere in Faerūn -- it's just got water overhead and to the sides.
At least, that's how it was, before Karsus cast his Ultimate Mistake spell and ruined everything.  |
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The Sage
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 11 Apr 2004 : 16:56:30
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Originally posted by The Sage
Hmmm...very interesting, and also an alternative to what was presented with the mythal of Myth Nantar.
I'm going to make use of this idea...
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Icewolf
Learned Scribe
USA
214 Posts |
Posted - 12 Apr 2004 : 02:03:02
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Woah. Nice ideas. As for involving the PCs, I was thinking of involving a Portal of some kind. If the natural curiosity usually present in adventurers doesn't show its otherwise predictable head, and magical Telekinesis ward (Discharging all at once, of course) will knock them through the gate. I have my Evil DM license, so its ok to do stuff like that.
As for joining my campaign, once I have it anywhere near finished, I'll decide on my options for putting it to use. My Girlfriend said she'd play, as long as she can quit if she finds it boring (a right everyone has, but if you quit my adventures, I find a grisly and disgusting way to kill the character off, as I find it amusing to me, and usually the remaining players.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 12 Apr 2004 : 02:20:42
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Originally posted by Icewolf
Woah. Nice ideas. As for involving the PCs, I was thinking of involving a Portal of some kind. If the natural curiosity usually present in adventurers doesn't show its otherwise predictable head, and magical Telekinesis ward (Discharging all at once, of course) will knock them through the gate. I have my Evil DM license, so its ok to do stuff like that.
I dunno, forcing them thru the portal seems a bit heavy-handed to me... 'Tis just my opinion, of course.
Let's see, ways to make them go thru the portal...
An important NPC is kidnapped, and the trail leads to the portal...
The PCs stumble across the bad guy, who's here looking for the portal. They find him as he finds the portal. A battle ensues, and it turns against him. Just before he is killed, he makes a mad dash and leaps thru the portal.
The PCs have just defeated some baddie, and in that baddie's lair, they find a mysterious item and a description in a tome that leads them to the portal...
Again, that's just a few quick ideas. Enjoy!
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Look in the 'Travelogue' soon then Wooly, because what I'll write-up will most likely be a great location for the Realms, that I can include in the tome...
Coo! I look forward to reading it! Let me know when you're done with it.  |
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Icewolf
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Posted - 12 Apr 2004 : 03:04:50
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I dunno, forcing them thru the portal seems a bit heavy-handed to me... 'Tis just my opinion, of course.
Let's see, ways to make them go thru the portal...
An important NPC is kidnapped, and the trail leads to the portal...
The PCs stumble across the bad guy, who's here looking for the portal. They find him as he finds the portal. A battle ensues, and it turns against him. Just before he is killed, he makes a mad dash and leaps thru the portal.
The PCs have just defeated some baddie, and in that baddie's lair, they find a mysterious item and a description in a tome that leads them to the portal...
Again, that's just a few quick ideas. Enjoy!
Seems good, but I'm looking for a 'trapped' kind of feeling in this portion. Sort of like 'We didn't want to come here, we don't wanna stay here, so lets do what we can to find a way out.'
If they come through the portal willingly, I'll have something else worked up to inspire the feeling. [starts muttering to himself] Maybe a one-way portal, or a trap destroys the portal after they come through. [/muttering] |
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Daseroth
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Posted - 12 Apr 2004 : 03:48:59
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WOW  you guys are wizes when it comes to the DMing protion of this, i am only a novice DM, but to get the players through the portal, why not send them into an almost unwinnable situation, like, the are caught, by say.... a group of thavian wizards and while they are running they find an old man, and their only other option than fighting them is to trust the old man wno would be... probably wearing rags, the man could be one of the undead in the city, or if you wanted to be really sadistic, he could be another red wizard who thinks it would be hilarious, to send adventurers into this underwater hell |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 12 Apr 2004 : 06:03:50
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Originally posted by Daseroth
WOW you guys are wizes when it comes to the DMing protion of this, i am only a novice DM, but to get the players through the portal, why not send them into an almost unwinnable situation, like, the are caught, by say.... a group of thavian wizards and while they are running they find an old man, and their only other option than fighting them is to trust the old man wno would be... probably wearing rags, the man could be one of the undead in the city, or if you wanted to be really sadistic, he could be another red wizard who thinks it would be hilarious, to send adventurers into this underwater hell
Daseroth, would you believe I've never DM'ed? I've not even gotten to play D&D since before 3rd edition came out!
When I find another job, one that lets me work days, I think I may finally try to find another gaming group. Most of my old gaming group has moved and/or has conflicting schedules, and there's also a bit of drama that prevents us from ever fully assembling again...
But I have been trying to stay up on my Realms knowledge. |
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