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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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 Posted - 31 Jan 2018 : 05:26:14
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Then I might like it too, because I never read the books either. i tried to - just couldn't get into them.
And I LOVE post-apocalypse settings. I'm looking forward to my neighborhood being one someday.  |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
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Posted - 31 Jan 2018 : 13:30:18
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Originally posted by Markustay
Then I might like it too, because I never read the books either. i tried to - just couldn't get into them.
And I LOVE post-apocalypse settings. I'm looking forward to my neighborhood being one someday.
If you're looking for post-apocalypse, don't look for it in the books. Granted, he REFERENCES that this is in the far future, but the feel in the stories was very much normal fantasy (granted, i read them 30 years ago). In fact, in reading the first two books, I felt like it was very much a Tolkien remake of LotR kinda with some twists. I started the third book and never finished it. That being said, I have a friend that loved the series. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 31 Jan 2018 : 15:22:17
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Originally posted by sleyvas
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Originally posted by Markustay
Then I might like it too, because I never read the books either. i tried to - just couldn't get into them.
And I LOVE post-apocalypse settings. I'm looking forward to my neighborhood being one someday.
If you're looking for post-apocalypse, don't look for it in the books. Granted, he REFERENCES that this is in the far future, but the feel in the stories was very much normal fantasy (granted, i read them 30 years ago). In fact, in reading the first two books, I felt like it was very much a Tolkien remake of LotR kinda with some twists. I started the third book and never finished it. That being said, I have a friend that loved the series.
Sword of Shannara is pretty much a direct ripoff of The Lord of the Rings, with the added bonus of a bizarre interpretation of a prophecy (it really, really bugs me). Elfstones and Wishsong were more original.
From what I understand, Terry Brooks did eventually write some other books that pretty much bridge our modern world with the Shannara series, showing how the world became all Shannarified. I've not read any of them, though. |
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Markustay
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Posted - 31 Jan 2018 : 22:34:45
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Well, maybe that's why I didn't like it. I don't think I even got past chapter 3 of the first book. It probably felt like a "poor man's LotR" (and although I was just 14, my tastes had already become discerning LOL).
But this is why I think I 'might' enjoy the TV adaption. Its NOT really the books at all, and it IS set in the post-apocalypse. I can't be disappointed by something based on something I was already disappointed with... that's a double-negative.  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 01 Feb 2018 : 03:54:41
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Originally posted by Markustay
Well, maybe that's why I didn't like it. I don't think I even got past chapter 3 of the first book. It probably felt like a "poor man's LotR" (and although I was just 14, my tastes had already become discerning LOL).
Aside from the nonsensical reaction to the prophecy, I enjoyed the book when I first read it... But that was well before I read Lord of the Rings. Once I read that, then tried to reread Sword, I found myself wondering how such a blatant ripoff ever got approved by a publisher.
As for that prophecy, since I keep mentioning it... The Fellowship characters go up into the mountains to see this ghost, for some advice on their quest to find the eponymous Sword of Shannara. The ghost says "one of you will not reach the far side of this mountain, but that person will be the first to find the Sword."
It's a pretty straight-forward statement. It said nothing about death, and did say that the lost person would get the Sword. But all of the characters somehow interpreted it as meaning that one of them was going to die.  |
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Sunderstone
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 01 Feb 2018 : 04:02:42
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Markustay
Well, maybe that's why I didn't like it. I don't think I even got past chapter 3 of the first book. It probably felt like a "poor man's LotR" (and although I was just 14, my tastes had already become discerning LOL).
Aside from the nonsensical reaction to the prophecy, I enjoyed the book when I first read it... But that was well before I read Lord of the Rings. Once I read that, then tried to reread Sword, I found myself wondering how such a blatant ripoff ever got approved by a publisher.
As for that prophecy, since I keep mentioning it... The Fellowship characters go up into the mountains to see this ghost, for some advice on their quest to find the eponymous Sword of Shannara. The ghost says "one of you will not reach the far side of this mountain, but that person will be the first to find the Sword."
It's a pretty straight-forward statement. It said nothing about death, and did say that the lost person would get the Sword. But all of the characters somehow interpreted it as meaning that one of them was going to die.
I kind of reacted the same with the first book. To much of a Fellowship rehash. Two Humans(one a royal), Elves, Dwarf, the diminuitve protagonist and a Wizard..I mean a Druid on a quest to take a weapon that can beat the big bad into the heart of his kingdom. All the while being threatened by Nazgul, I mean Warlock Lords. The only characters I really could get into were Panamon Creel and Keltset. They at least felt original. |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
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Posted - 01 Feb 2018 : 15:32:01
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Originally posted by Markustay
Well, maybe that's why I didn't like it. I don't think I even got past chapter 3 of the first book. It probably felt like a "poor man's LotR" (and although I was just 14, my tastes had already become discerning LOL).
But this is why I think I 'might' enjoy the TV adaption. Its NOT really the books at all, and it IS set in the post-apocalypse. I can't be disappointed by something based on something I was already disappointed with... that's a double-negative.
Its baaadddd..... really.... really... baaddd. Granted, I did watch the whole season 1 hoping that it would get better. I kid you not, when the last episode aired, I immediately deleted the recording settings from my DVR so that it wouldn't ever record more... and I never do that. |
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Balmar Foghaven
Learned Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 03 Feb 2018 : 08:22:31
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Markustay
Well, maybe that's why I didn't like it. I don't think I even got past chapter 3 of the first book. It probably felt like a "poor man's LotR" (and although I was just 14, my tastes had already become discerning LOL).
Aside from the nonsensical reaction to the prophecy, I enjoyed the book when I first read it... But that was well before I read Lord of the Rings. Once I read that, then tried to reread Sword, I found myself wondering how such a blatant ripoff ever got approved by a publisher.
As for that prophecy, since I keep mentioning it... The Fellowship characters go up into the mountains to see this ghost, for some advice on their quest to find the eponymous Sword of Shannara. The ghost says "one of you will not reach the far side of this mountain, but that person will be the first to find the Sword."
It's a pretty straight-forward statement. It said nothing about death, and did say that the lost person would get the Sword. But all of the characters somehow interpreted it as meaning that one of them was going to die.
I do so enjoy misinterpreted prophecies. Is anyone here familiar with The Dragonstone by Dennis L. McKiernan? It involves heroes embarking on a quest to prevent an apocalyptic prophecy and... let's just say in the end they might be directly responsible for it coming to pass.  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 03 Feb 2018 : 15:49:38
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Originally posted by Balmar Foghaven
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Markustay
Well, maybe that's why I didn't like it. I don't think I even got past chapter 3 of the first book. It probably felt like a "poor man's LotR" (and although I was just 14, my tastes had already become discerning LOL).
Aside from the nonsensical reaction to the prophecy, I enjoyed the book when I first read it... But that was well before I read Lord of the Rings. Once I read that, then tried to reread Sword, I found myself wondering how such a blatant ripoff ever got approved by a publisher.
As for that prophecy, since I keep mentioning it... The Fellowship characters go up into the mountains to see this ghost, for some advice on their quest to find the eponymous Sword of Shannara. The ghost says "one of you will not reach the far side of this mountain, but that person will be the first to find the Sword."
It's a pretty straight-forward statement. It said nothing about death, and did say that the lost person would get the Sword. But all of the characters somehow interpreted it as meaning that one of them was going to die.
I do so enjoy misinterpreted prophecies. Is anyone here familiar with The Dragonstone by Dennis L. McKiernan? It involves heroes embarking on a quest to prevent an apocalyptic prophecy and... let's just say in the end they might be directly responsible for it coming to pass.
A misinterpretation is one thing. But Bremen flat out said the person that didn't reach the other side of the mountain would get the Sword -- which means that person lived. An entire group of people, some quite intelligent, somehow determining that this meant someone would die, is willful stupidity. |
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Balmar Foghaven
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 04 Feb 2018 : 05:13:58
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Balmar Foghaven
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Markustay
Well, maybe that's why I didn't like it. I don't think I even got past chapter 3 of the first book. It probably felt like a "poor man's LotR" (and although I was just 14, my tastes had already become discerning LOL).
Aside from the nonsensical reaction to the prophecy, I enjoyed the book when I first read it... But that was well before I read Lord of the Rings. Once I read that, then tried to reread Sword, I found myself wondering how such a blatant ripoff ever got approved by a publisher.
As for that prophecy, since I keep mentioning it... The Fellowship characters go up into the mountains to see this ghost, for some advice on their quest to find the eponymous Sword of Shannara. The ghost says "one of you will not reach the far side of this mountain, but that person will be the first to find the Sword."
It's a pretty straight-forward statement. It said nothing about death, and did say that the lost person would get the Sword. But all of the characters somehow interpreted it as meaning that one of them was going to die.
I do so enjoy misinterpreted prophecies. Is anyone here familiar with The Dragonstone by Dennis L. McKiernan? It involves heroes embarking on a quest to prevent an apocalyptic prophecy and... let's just say in the end they might be directly responsible for it coming to pass.
A misinterpretation is one thing. But Bremen flat out said the person that didn't reach the other side of the mountain would get the Sword -- which means that person lived. An entire group of people, some quite intelligent, somehow determining that this meant someone would die, is willful stupidity.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36803 Posts |
Posted - 28 Nov 2019 : 03:28:31
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I'm surprised no one has shared this, yet...
Dungeons & Dragons Movie to Focus on the Eye of Vecna, Will Feature a Forgotten Realms Character
Some bits from the article, for the tl;dr crowd:
"ComicBook.com can exclusively report that the upcoming Dungeons & Dragons movie currently in development by Paramount will focus on a group of adventurers looking for the Eye of Vecna, a powerful artifact that dates back to the earliest days of the game."
"Additionally, ComicBook.com can exclusively report that Paramount was looking for a male actor to voice the dragon Palarandusk, a dragon that lives in the Forgotten Realms."
"While Palarndusk's involvement in the Dungeons & Dragons movie indicates the movie will take place in the Forgotten Realms, our source indicates that the dragon will act as an ancient leader of a group of Triadic Knights."
"Our source indicates that Dungeons & Dragons will feature a group of adventurers led by Raven Hightower, a warrior with a magic flamesword that's haunted by his sister's death. Other characters include the "half-dragon" Hack Karroway, the gnome thief Olivan Trickfoot, and a masked warrior named Alyssa Steelsong who is set to take over Palarandusk's role when the dragon dies. Additionally, the main villain of the movie is a male drow named Razer Horlbar who once kept Raven and his sister as slaves, along with a female tiefling named Damala and a brutish warrior known only as "The Beast.""
My takeaways:
I don't want the Eye of Vecna in the Realms. That's a Greyhawk item, and they've already done too much mixing the two settings.
I'm not really sure about having a drow antagonist (especially one named "Razer"!), but as long as he's the only drow in the movie, that's not too bad. It's not just my dislike of "hey, we need drow in everything!"; there's also the fact that they decided "hey, in a country where racial tensions are a very big issue, let's have a movie where the bad guy has jet black skin and comes from a race that's pretty much always evil!" I foresee some major blowback on that one.
I don't like most of those names.
I am very enthusiastic about this being a new story, instead of just a rehashing of an existing one.
I am also happy that the canon character they chose was not one who has had a lot of air time, and is in fact not a human or demihuman. Picking any human or demihuman characters would have spawned endless discussions on how well the actor portrayed the character and how some other actor would have been a better choice. |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
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Posted - 28 Nov 2019 : 03:43:33
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| I hate...revile...the idea of anything to do with Vecna taking place in the Forgotten Realms. |
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LordofBones
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 28 Nov 2019 : 06:55:19
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| The hell does Vecna have to do with the Forgotten Realms? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 28 Nov 2019 : 13:49:17
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The hell does Vecna have to do with the Forgotten Realms?
Just as much as the Tomb of Horrors: Nothing at all, until it was inexplicably ported over. |
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D&D movie update.......Dragons of Autumn Twilight?
