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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Zacas
Learned Scribe
USA
261 Posts |
 Posted - 02 Apr 2004 : 04:58:15
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| my question is why is it only showing up on Amazon.ca and not the main site? :P Amazon.com doesn't even locate it by ISBN or name (other than the 2nd Ed game book...) |
I am like a superhero, with no powers or motivation.
I have gone to find myself. If I get back before I return, please keep me here.
People like you are the reason people like me are on medication. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2004 : 05:03:28
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| Likely an administrative slip. I'd bet on it disappearing in a few days, once they realize what they've done. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2004 : 05:08:37
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Quick someone drag Thomas out of bed so he can answer our questions!  |
“I am the King of Rome, and above grammar”
Emperor Sigismund
"Its good to be the King!"
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2004 : 05:40:58
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Probably an elaborate April Fool's prank hatched by Amazon Canada to get back at us for stealing Celine Dion from their country and making her sing in Las Vegas shows for several years before she regains her freedom!
Although, it's probably true. A online book chain releases information on a new product before the actual company. Classic WOTC handling of the FR world as of late. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2004 : 05:42:15
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Probably an elaborate April Fool's prank hatched by Amazon Canada to get back at us for stealing Celine Dion from their country and making her sing in Las Vegas shows for several years before she regains her freedom!
We never liked her in the first place. You can keep her. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2004 : 05:49:36
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Originally posted by Arivia
We never liked her in the first place. You can keep her.
Oh no! As soon as her contract is up, she's on her way back. However, we are keeping Keifer Sutherland!  |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2004 : 05:51:54
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Arivia
We never liked her in the first place. You can keep her.
Oh no! As soon as her contract is up, she's on her way back. However, we are keeping Keifer Sutherland!
You Americans, taking all the good people...But there are some you'll never touch... |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36805 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2004 : 06:26:52
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Probably an elaborate April Fool's prank hatched by Amazon Canada to get back at us for stealing Celine Dion from their country and making her sing in Las Vegas shows for several years before she regains her freedom!
Actually, I thought that y'all sending her to the US was a prelude to war...  |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2004 : 06:52:01
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Actually, I thought that y'all sending her to the US was a prelude to war...
LOL! A Weapon of Mass Destruction all by herself. No offense to Celine fans as I actually have liked some of her songs. Even if they were played again and again ...and again on every radio station I seemed to turn to. |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2004 : 07:11:22
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Actually, I thought that y'all sending her to the US was a prelude to war...
LOL! A Weapon of Mass Destruction all by herself. No offense to Celine fans as I actually have liked some of her songs. Even if they were played again and again ...and again on every radio station I seemed to turn to.
I agree about Celine's, well..."interesting"...voice. Although she doesn't get played at all on the stuff I listen to... |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2004 : 09:11:03
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Originally posted by Dargoth
By the way Im rather amused that Amazon are announcing WOTC books before WOTC
I was saying the very thing somewhere on this forum just the other day  It will be quite some time before WotC mention this product! |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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dbassingthwaite
Forgotten Realms Author
Canada
64 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2004 : 16:13:53
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Wow, an actual chance to apply my day-job knowledge!
You most likely see things pop up on Amazon (and other sources that the average joe doesn't see, like Ingram and Baker & Taylor) because on-line retailers and data aggregators constantly ask for information on forthcoming titles far, far in advance, often farther in advance than the publisher's own sales and marketing-driven public release schedule. They also generally take at least part of that information in the form of feeds from warehouses and production schedules - sometimes when the publisher doesn't necessarily want them to (we've had books show up on Amazon as soon as they've been assigned an ISBN in our system, even though actual publication may be 2-3 years away).
The result is cases like this where a book unexpectedly shows up on a listing, generally with minimal information (ISBN, author, title, etc.) - this is the kind of information that comes from a simple data feed while the enriched content (book descriptions, cover images) comes along later.
As for why this particular listing is showing on Amazon.ca instead of Amazon.com, there could be several reasons. Amazon.ca does, in fact, run on slightly different processes (which is strange considering they operate out of the same offices) and picks things up in different ways. They may be picking this up from a feed from WotC's Canadian distributor while the American distributor has successfully filtered it from the feed to Amazon.com. In fact, I'd guess this is exactly what's happening because it's listing a Canadian price (if they draw it out of an American source, they show a conversion listing).
Don
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International Sales and Advertising
Web Coordinator and Data Wrangler
University of Toronto Press) |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2004 : 17:47:48
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| Thanks Don Bassingthwaite for the information. |
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Zacas
Learned Scribe
USA
261 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2004 : 20:36:55
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Originally posted by dbassingthwaite
Wow, an actual chance to apply my day-job knowledge!
You most likely see things pop up on Amazon (and other sources that the average joe doesn't see, like Ingram and Baker & Taylor) because on-line retailers and data aggregators constantly ask for information on forthcoming titles far, far in advance, often farther in advance than the publisher's own sales and marketing-driven public release schedule. They also generally take at least part of that information in the form of feeds from warehouses and production schedules - sometimes when the publisher doesn't necessarily want them to (we've had books show up on Amazon as soon as they've been assigned an ISBN in our system, even though actual publication may be 2-3 years away).
The result is cases like this where a book unexpectedly shows up on a listing, generally with minimal information (ISBN, author, title, etc.) - this is the kind of information that comes from a simple data feed while the enriched content (book descriptions, cover images) comes along later.
Or in some cases... on books that were to come out... only to be cancelled and, were until recently still listed on said sites as "Out of Print" or "Currently Unavailable" or "Special Order".... *cough*NeverwinterNightsAnthology*cough* |
I am like a superhero, with no powers or motivation.
I have gone to find myself. If I get back before I return, please keep me here.
People like you are the reason people like me are on medication. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 02 Apr 2004 : 21:39:25
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The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Thomas M. Reid
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
334 Posts |
Posted - 03 Apr 2004 : 01:35:17
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Wow. I'm dragged out of bed because of some very important news, and it turns out to be . . .. Celine. 
So, the beans have been spilled, as it were. Yes, my FR product is the Shining South, and as far as I know, it's still slated to be released in November. That's as much as I'm willing to say at this point, though, simply because Wizards does not have any information up on their site, and I do NOT want to be agitating them.
(Yes, it's far better to agitate all of you . . . right.  )
So, when I see a page on WotC's site revealing the product, I'll happily share what I can, but for now, let the gnashing of teeth commence, because I must regretfully remain mum.
Thomas |
"A knight is not truly virtuous, only truly resolved to be so."
www.thomasmreid.com |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 03 Apr 2004 : 02:46:18
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Originally posted by Thomas M. Reid
Wow. I'm dragged out of bed because of some very important news, and it turns out to be . . .. Celine.
So, the beans have been spilled, as it were. Yes, my FR product is the Shining South, and as far as I know, it's still slated to be released in November. That's as much as I'm willing to say at this point, though, simply because Wizards does not have any information up on their site, and I do NOT want to be agitating them.
(Yes, it's far better to agitate all of you . . . right. )
So, when I see a page on WotC's site revealing the product, I'll happily share what I can, but for now, let the gnashing of teeth commence, because I must regretfully remain mum.
Thomas
Rich said something about the Third Trimestor catelouge coming out any day (he said that early this week) |
“I am the King of Rome, and above grammar”
Emperor Sigismund
"Its good to be the King!"
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 03 Apr 2004 : 06:07:55
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Originally posted by Thomas M. Reid
That's as much as I'm willing to say at this point, though, simply because Wizards does not have any information up on their site, and I do NOT want to be agitating them.
Oh really.....? Do you want me to find a way to send you a Celine Dion CD?
Looking forward to you being able to talk more about this product whe you can. The second half of the year is going to be quite busy with releases for you. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 03 Apr 2004 : 06:09:07
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Rich said something about the Third Trimestor catelouge coming out any day (he said that early this week)
Didn't he say this last week???!! Wait, was he going by FR time, where it would be every five days = one day there, so by that standard, his comment that it would be any day means......Hold on, does someone have a calculator??? |
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 03 Apr 2004 : 06:33:26
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Rich said something about the Third Trimestor catelouge coming out any day (he said that early this week)
Didn't he say this last week???!! Wait, was he going by FR time, where it would be every five days = one day there, so by that standard, his comment that it would be any day means......Hold on, does someone have a calculator???
Last I checked, it was five RL days=2 FR days, Sirius. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 03 Apr 2004 : 07:26:25
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Originally posted by Arivia
Last I checked, it was five RL days=2 FR days, Sirius.
You mean I have to add up all those numbers again? |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 03 Apr 2004 : 08:01:06
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Originally posted by Arivia
Last I checked, it was five RL days=2 FR days, Sirius.
If you are going by what is in the FRCS, Rich said a few months back that they are behind on what they originally printed in the FRCS. :)
Richard Baker posted on page 14 of the, "Ask The Core Rules and Supplement Authors" thread on 01-05-04 at 12:55 PM.
"Kythorn 1, 1373. We haven't really stuck with our intended world progression as well as we wanted to. I'm afraid I couldn't give you a good answer about "Thousand Orcs," try over on the book boards.
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Hey Rich I hope you enjoyed your time off! I have a question that I feel a bit silly for asking but as of FRPG what is the game world month year. I remember in the FR 3.0 source you mentioned a rough 5months in the real world=2months game time, however that doesn't really give a reference of when we should start counting from. And perhaps this is a little off topic but in the 1000 Orc novels what is the relational timeline in the game? Really enjoying the thread and thanks for answering us!
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 03 Apr 2004 : 16:53:15
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Thanks for that post Kuje. I had mentioned in another scroll that Richard Baker had made these comments. However, I did not have it saved, nor the mental energy to go to the WOTC board and find it.
I will say this regarding the current year. Mr. Byers is steadily moving the timeline forward with The Rage. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Apr 2004 : 19:23:09
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Thanks for that post Kuje. I had mentioned in another scroll that Richard Baker had made these comments. However, I did not have it saved, nor the mental energy to go to the WOTC board and find it.
I will say this regarding the current year. Mr. Byers is steadily moving the timeline forward with The Rage.
No problem. I've cut and pasted it a few times over on the WOTC boards so I knew how to search for it in my old replies. :) |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
Scribe for the Candlekeep Compendium |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 08 Apr 2004 : 08:15:25
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Originally posted by Thomas M. Reid
Wow. I'm dragged out of bed because of some very important news, and it turns out to be . . .. Celine.
So, the beans have been spilled, as it were. Yes, my FR product is the Shining South, and as far as I know, it's still slated to be released in November. That's as much as I'm willing to say at this point, though, simply because Wizards does not have any information up on their site, and I do NOT want to be agitating them.
(Yes, it's far better to agitate all of you . . . right. )
So, when I see a page on WotC's site revealing the product, I'll happily share what I can, but for now, let the gnashing of teeth commence, because I must regretfully remain mum.
Thomas
*Drags Thomas out of bed again*
no more excuses Mr Reid!
The WOTC fall catelouge is out in stores
http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=216326
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“I am the King of Rome, and above grammar”
Emperor Sigismund
"Its good to be the King!"
Mel Brooks |
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Thomas M. Reid
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
334 Posts |
Posted - 08 Apr 2004 : 19:13:35
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Well, then, I guess the jig is up.
So yep, my latest contribution to the Realms is a 192-page sourcebook on the Shining South. It covers (from north to south, then west to east) The Shaar, The Great Rift, The Eastern Shaar, Veldorn, Halruaa, Dambrath, Luirien, Estagund, Var the Golden, and Durpar, with some tidbits on lands east of there (off the map).
It follows the same format as Unapproachable East, so it has the requisite chapters on feats, prestige classes, magic items, and spells.
There you go. 
Thomas |
"A knight is not truly virtuous, only truly resolved to be so."
www.thomasmreid.com |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 08 Apr 2004 : 19:21:25
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::drool::
Thomas, how much coverage is there on Veldorn? Ive always been quite intrigued by it but very little information exists in previous FR products. |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Thomas M. Reid
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
334 Posts |
Posted - 08 Apr 2004 : 20:52:52
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Since this product is an RPG book, rather than a novel, I started a thread in the RPG Products forum and answered your question there. That way, people who don't pay attention to the novels but want to know more about the Shining South can see it. And Alaundo will be happy, too.
Here's the link:
http://www.candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2187
Thomas |
"A knight is not truly virtuous, only truly resolved to be so."
www.thomasmreid.com |
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