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Gyor
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Posted - 14 Sep 2016 :  02:40:50  Show Profile Send Gyor a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
The The Ed Greenwood Group (TEGG) should licence for FR

As said in the title the TEGG should get a licence for FR novels from WotC.

This isn't without presidence, White Wolf used to have a licence to do Ravenloft novels and I believe another company had the licence for Dragon Lance for a time as well.

If WotC does want to assume the expenses/costs/risks for the novels line, then WotC should do a licencing deal with TEGG like it once did for Ravenloft with White Wolf. WotC gets profits, little to no expenses to draw resources from their budgets, its a win...win...win deal.

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Yes, it's an excellent idea

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Gyor
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Posted - 14 Sep 2016 :  10:56:13  Show Profile Send Gyor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wonder if the powers that be here at Candlekeep while suggest this to Ed Greenwood.
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Gary Dallison
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Posted - 14 Sep 2016 :  12:00:48  Show Profile Send Gary Dallison a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would be thrilled for WoTC to let someone else, especially TEGG, develop FR.

However, TEGG have a whopping 12 settings that they are trying to get off the ground. Taking on anothee setting that is owned by another company is probably not in their best interests.

Maybe in 5 years. Give WoTC a chance to release 4 more editions of DnD, complete with world changing apocalypses and century long time jumps.

Plus if i were licencing FR, im not sure i couls trust WoTC not to revoke the whole deal at a moments notice. They have done it with dragon, with several digital tools, with the first lot of pdfs they released, with DDO. They just arent dependable bedfellows.

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Brimstone
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Posted - 14 Sep 2016 :  12:45:04  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This might be Ed's intention from the Beginning of TEGG...

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George Krashos
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Posted - 14 Sep 2016 :  12:53:56  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Great idea. Not going to happen until the FR film gets off the ground. If it is a success, then zero chance of that happening. If it bombs badly, maybe. I'm hoping that it bombs bigtime.

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Irennan
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Posted - 14 Sep 2016 :  14:09:20  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've seen people saying that Ed has said that he'd be really happy if this happened. However, I haven't read anything from Ed himself about that.

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The Sage
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Posted - 14 Sep 2016 :  14:41:06  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gyor

I wonder if the powers that be here at Candlekeep while suggest this to Ed Greenwood.

Unlikely.

As Krash noted above, and as Ed has said in the past, legal wrangling and issues of content and ownership are extraordinarily fickle these days - to the point where it becomes very difficult to determine where and when a license for the Realms content should end.

And after 20+ years of shared-world workings and multitudes of authors, game designers, and artists all playing in the Realms sandbox, this would hardly be an issue that could be resolved without some kind of legal merry-go-round... which, frankly, would likely last years.

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Gyor
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Posted - 14 Sep 2016 :  15:12:21  Show Profile Send Gyor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
All I know is I hope Ed tries.
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Brimstone
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Posted - 14 Sep 2016 :  15:16:42  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Help us Ed Greenwood, you are our only hope...

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Ayrik
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Posted - 14 Sep 2016 :  18:19:40  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gyor

This isn't without presidence, White Wolf used to have a licence to do Ravenloft novels and I believe another company had the licence for Dragon Lance for a time as well.

True, WotC has licensed segments of their D&D franchise. Circa 2001-2005 they were experimenting with OGL and D20, they were attempting to recover from TSR's mismanagement and were being (forcibly?) restructured by their new Hasbro overlords, they weren't quite as paranoid about digital piracy, and they weren't yet wary of mighty startups like Paizo. Times have changed, Wizbro clutches desperately on keeping (and monetizing) what they have left, they are obsessively paranoid about piracy and aggressively territorial about brand infringement.

D&D novels have already been culled to a meager minimum. I can't speak for D&D authors but it's obvious that there were once many and there are now few, it seems to me that WotC is just not interested in keeping their novels on the shelves. If they're not interested in or able to publish for themselves then they're probably very reluctant to publish through outsourcing.

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Gary Dallison
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Posted - 14 Sep 2016 :  18:28:28  Show Profile Send Gary Dallison a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well i dont think there is any danger of the movie doing well. Rpgs are by no means a mainstream hobby. Even i find it embarrassing to admit my hobby to non players.

The first film was bad, the others worse. People remember things like that. And when you go to watch a film you want a good story with consistency and depth of character, these things are not the hallmark of 5e.

So onwards fail train and hopefully TEGG will pick up the pieces.

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Gyor
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Posted - 14 Sep 2016 :  18:44:41  Show Profile Send Gyor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The movie will be based on the Forgotten Realms, it may or may have 5e mechanical influences, we don't know.
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Gyor
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Posted - 14 Sep 2016 :  18:46:18  Show Profile Send Gyor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gyor

The movie will be based on the Forgotten Realms, it may or may have 5e mechanical influences, we don't know.



My dream team for the movie would be written by Josh Wheldon and directed by Michael Bay. Yes I'm that crazy.
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Ayrik
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@Gyor ... so you want a Realms movie which is written like a Buffy episode with the look of a Transformers movie? Yes, you are crazy. :p

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Gyor
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Posted - 14 Sep 2016 :  21:52:42  Show Profile Send Gyor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I figure that one will cancel out the faults of the other, leaving only their combined strengths. Or they'll kill each other. Either way entertainment ensured.
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The Sage
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Posted - 15 Sep 2016 :  14:18:32  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gyor

The movie will be based on the Forgotten Realms, it may or may have 5e mechanical influences, we don't know.

I'd rather the film try not to adhere specifically to any rules-set.

For me, it's enough for any FR film to involve the lore, more than the rules.

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