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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 18 Apr 2004 : 19:22:58
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I wonder about the existence of other Song Dragons. Have they even been mentioned outside of The Rage? I mean, I think I've heard the subspecies name before, but I've never seen an actual Song Dragon mentioned before Kara. By the way, the book was excellent, and the half-golem idea was great!  |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 18 Apr 2004 : 19:30:36
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Originally posted by Shadowlord
I wonder about the existence of other Song Dragons. Have they even been mentioned outside of The Rage? I mean, I think I've heard the subspecies name before, but I've never seen an actual Song Dragon mentioned before Kara. By the way, the book was excellent, and the half-golem idea was great!
Song dragons have been around for a while, they've just not had a lot of air-time. I believe they originally appeared in an issue of Dragon back during the days of 1st edition, but I'd have to check.
Edit: They first appeared in Dragon 134, as "weredragons." They were updated to 2nd edition in the module The Halls of the High King, and again in the Monstrous Compendium Annual Volume 3. In Monsters of Faerűn they returned as "song dragons." I know not of an official reason for the name change, though it is likely that it occurred because, despite the name "weredragons," they were not lycanthropes. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 18 Apr 2004 : 21:08:34
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Right then, thank ye, Giant Space Hamster of Ill Omen....  |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 02:46:01
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I looked in Borders book store and my local gaming shop - no The Rage. Of course, I am absolutely beside myself waiting to read this book, given the snippets I've heard. I have to ask though, how much of my beloved Impiltur was devastated by the dragon attacks? Those who have read it, was there any new realmslore on Impiltur?
-- George Krashos
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 03:31:05
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Originally posted by George Krashos
I looked in Borders book store and my local gaming shop - no The Rage. Of course, I am absolutely beside myself waiting to read this book, given the snippets I've heard.
I've had horrible luck with local book stores, even big chain ones, and FR releases. The B&N here will get The Rage probably a month after it appears online for sale.
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was there any new realmslore on Impiltur?
I'd probably be able to help out a bit here if I could recall what products in the past mentioned this area. For me, the nickname of Impiltur given in the FRCS truly fits.
I can tell that there is a great scene involving interaction between one of the main characters and Lyrabar's Queen & Council. You get to see some of the personalities of those governing clearly on display. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 03:38:42
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
I've had horrible luck with local book stores, even big chain ones, and FR releases. The B&N here will get The Rage probably a month after it appears online for sale.
Really? The B&N in Farmington, Connecticut has products on the day they debut. What B&N do you go to? It must be terrible!
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
I can tell that there is a great scene involving interaction between one of the main characters and Lyrabar's Queen & Council. You get to see some of the personalities of those governing clearly on display.
Heh, I remember some small town that began with a "Y" was decimated. Yhaunphtir, or something. I truly can't remember, and I'm not in a position to access my copy of The Rage right now... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 07:46:26
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Originally posted by George Krashos
I looked in Borders book store and my local gaming shop - no The Rage. Of course, I am absolutely beside myself waiting to read this book, given the snippets I've heard. I have to ask though, how much of my beloved Impiltur was devastated by the dragon attacks? Those who have read it, was there any new realmslore on Impiltur?
-- George Krashos
WARNING CONTIANS SPOILS!
The Dragons havent quite got to devastating Impilturs cities yet
Several cities south of the flooded forest are having property boom (mainly fixer uppers) 
The Paladin councilors get a mention as do there Bronze Dragon mounts |
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Alathayn
Acolyte
Germany
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Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 16:39:14
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Impiltur is the Setting?
*Hehe*
I planned to to start my next Campaign there, because I thought it's a nice little country, far away from all those novel settings that could interfere with my campaign. *lol*
However, to hear that my favorite lich Sammaster is involved is great news. |
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Krafus
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 18:04:31
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I just finished reading The Rage a day or so ago, and I must say, it was a really good read. I was wondering if anybody heard of any plans to include the game statistics for the characters in Dragon any time soon? I'd love to see stats for Raryn, Dorn, and Taegan.
I certainly hope it happens... Come to think of it, the characters of all three last "Realms-shaking series" (Threat from the Sea, Return of the Archwizards and War of the Spider Queen) got statted in Dragon. It should be the same for Year of Rogue Dragons. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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5517 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2004 : 21:36:58
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Originally posted by Shadowlord
Heh, I remember some small town that began with a "Y" was decimated. Yhaunphtir, or something. I truly can't remember, and I'm not in a position to access my copy of The Rage right now...
Ylraphon? |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 20 Apr 2004 : 09:44:24
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Ylraphon is in the Vast, near the Moonsea. A significant distance from Impiltur with a few mountain ranges in between as well. Why would Impiltur give a sniff about Ylraphon?
If Ylraphon has bit the dust then places like Calaunt, Tantras and Raven's Bluff would be in the firing line, not Impiltur ....
Curiouser and curiouser ...
-- George Krashos
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 20 Apr 2004 : 10:08:09
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Ylraphon is in the Vast, near the Moonsea. A significant distance from Impiltur with a few mountain ranges in between as well. Why would Impiltur give a sniff about Ylraphon?
If Ylraphon has bit the dust then places like Calaunt, Tantras and Raven's Bluff would be in the firing line, not Impiltur ....
Curiouser and curiouser ...
-- George Krashos
Do you REALLY want me to answer this? |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 20 Apr 2004 : 15:28:24
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Spoiler, shmoiler Dargoth.
Tell me what happens.
I'll still buy the book and read it anyway ...
-- George Krashos
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
1814 Posts |
Posted - 21 Apr 2004 : 01:11:26
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| Partly because of the urging of folks here at Candlekeep, I'll be writing up some of the characters from The Year of Rogue Dragons for publication in Dragon magazine. But here's the catch: at most, Dragon can only use four writeups. So, please, gang, help me out. Which characters are you most interested in seeing? |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 21 Apr 2004 : 01:16:21
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Ok you asked for it
WARNING SPOILORS!
The story starts with the heros in Ylraphon, the heros are a bunch of Dragon slayers who are paid by Ylraphon council to kill a Dragon thats been harassing the town. Well they go into the flooded forest and kill the Dragon but while their there all the remaining Dragons in the Forest start calling out to each which the party recognises as the begining of a Dragon Rage. The party runs back to Ylraphon to warn the town, the dragons attack and destroy most of the town, the party kill a couple Dragons then make there escape, they are hired by a mysterious bard named Kara to take her to Lyrabar. On the way south they see more towns and cities burning from Dragon attacks
Upon arriving Lyrabar they find thats theres an active Cult of the Dragon cell which they manage to wipe out. They also discover that Samaster is still around as a Lich and that hes found a way to make the Dragons Rage when ever he wants to, worse still theyve discovered that the Rage now effects the Good Dragons as well. They also discover that theres a Cult of Dragon lair in the Grey Forest and Impiltur sends an army to destroy it , with fixed results.
I dont think the rest of the books will be set in Impiltur as by the end of the Rage the actions shifted to the Moonsea |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 21 Apr 2004 : 01:59:22
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Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers
Partly because of the urging of folks here at Candlekeep, I'll be writing up some of the characters from The Year of Rogue Dragons for publication in Dragon magazine. But here's the catch: at most, Dragon can only use four writeups. So, please, gang, help me out. Which characters are you most interested in seeing?
My vote goes to the half-golem and the avarial. :) The other two I don't care either way.... Well maybe the song dragon as well. :) |
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Maskanodel
Acolyte
Canada
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Posted - 21 Apr 2004 : 02:14:20
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Definitely Dorn and Taegan. I'd die to see those. And while I'd love to see Pavel and Will, they are pretty much typical examples of their respectvie race/class, so it's not absolutely necessary to see them right away. Kara I think would be good to see, and probably a villian from the series, so I'd have to say Sammaster.
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Dorn
Taegan
Kara
Sammaster (or Brimstone maybe) |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 21 Apr 2004 : 02:16:34
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Id be tempted to say Dorn but hes already got a write up on the novels section of the WOTC site (admitedly minus stats)so in the interest of minimalising the amount of repeat material Ill have to pass on him
Hmm 4...
1) Samaster
2) Taegan
3) Kara
4) Brimestone
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 21 Apr 2004 : 04:42:39
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Thanks Dargoth. That actually works out pretty well for me - as RSEs go.
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 21 Apr 2004 : 04:51:15
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| Yes, I too would have to agree with Dargoth. Brimstone has me very curious... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 21 Apr 2004 : 04:59:41
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Thanks Dargoth. That actually works out pretty well for me - as RSEs go.
-- George Krashos
Im still waiting to find out what hes going to do with that Flight of Dragons lairing on the ruins of the Witchkings castle, so far they havent got a mention |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 21 Apr 2004 : 06:12:32
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Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers
Partly because of the urging of folks here at Candlekeep, I'll be writing up some of the characters from The Year of Rogue Dragons for publication in Dragon magazine. But here's the catch: at most, Dragon can only use four writeups. So, please, gang, help me out. Which characters are you most interested in seeing?
1. Taegan
2. Dorn
3. Kara
4. Chatulio
Very nice of you to ask for input and for responding to people wanting to see the stats. Take note other authors, this is a great way to get on the good side of the unruly mob of consumers.  |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 21 Apr 2004 : 08:27:41
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
4. Chatulio
Ack, the copper? Brimstone is much better than Chatulio. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 21 Apr 2004 : 08:46:24
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Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers
Partly because of the urging of folks here at Candlekeep, I'll be writing up some of the characters from The Year of Rogue Dragons for publication in Dragon magazine. But here's the catch: at most, Dragon can only use four writeups. So, please, gang, help me out. Which characters are you most interested in seeing?
Shucks, id love to give my suggestions on this but havent finished the novel yet and im trying to avoid this topic at the moment for fear of spoilers 
Ill look forward to the Dragon issue anyway. Be sure to give us all here a mention though |
Lord Rad
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 21 Apr 2004 : 11:23:59
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Yeah, I must say I wish Eric had snipped this tidbit of realmslore in Powers & Pantheons. A large grouping of chromatic dragons in the ruins of Castle perilous is fine - the fact that they've been there for well over a decade is not. Maybe they all snuck off and no-one mentioned it ...
-- George Krashos
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 21 Apr 2004 : 12:01:36
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Yeah, I must say I wish Eric had snipped this tidbit of realmslore in Powers & Pantheons. A large grouping of chromatic dragons in the ruins of Castle perilous is fine - the fact that they've been there for well over a decade is not. Maybe they all snuck off and no-one mentioned it ...
-- George Krashos
Yeah I think there going to have to address that when they do a Cold lands source book. Chromatic Dragons arent know for Patience |
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Krafus
Learned Scribe
246 Posts |
Posted - 21 Apr 2004 : 14:08:06
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Partly because of the urging of folks here at Candlekeep, I'll be writing up some of the characters from The Year of Rogue Dragons for publication in Dragon magazine. But here's the catch: at most, Dragon can only use four writeups. So, please, gang, help me out. Which characters are you most interested in seeing?
Yay!
1) Dorn (I know he's got a write-up on the WotC site, but I want his stats...)
2) Kara
3) Taegan
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Sarta
Senior Scribe
USA
505 Posts |
Posted - 23 Apr 2004 : 05:52:01
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Just finished reading the Rage. I really enjoyed it and am looking forward to the rest of the series.
My vote, just to go against the flow slightly:
1. Dorn
2. Taegan
3. Karasendrieth
4. Will
I'm curious what classes you would assign to Will. Rogue is obvious, just wondering whether or not you also would be including warsling sniper or guild thief as well.
So far, Raryn's my favorite, but other than his race, he seems to be a fairly straight-forward ranger. My prediction for the series though would be that he dies.
Here's to hoping I'm wrong.
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 23 Apr 2004 : 14:15:55
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| Sarta: Will's a rogue and a warsling sniper for sure. He might be a guild thief and have a level or two of ranger, also, but I'm not certain. I'd have to see exactly what it takes to describe him accurately in gaming terms, and I haven't done that yet. |
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VEDSICA
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 25 Apr 2004 : 23:28:42
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Richard thanks a million for asking for our input in this matter.Things like this definitely make me a Byermaniac.As for who I would lke to see written.
1.Dorn(also would love to see an illustration of him)
2.Kara
3.Sammaster(probably already done,but I want to see it anyways)
4.Taegan
For the record I would rather see their stats here on Candlekeep.Any chance of that ever happening????? |
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