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SiriusBlack
Great Reader

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Posted - 27 Mar 2004 :  21:43:15  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
No spoilers yet as I only obtained The Rage today. Anyone else have it yet? I'm looking forward to starting this tonight and discussing the destruction, I mean the changes to the Realms as a result of this series.

Teflon
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Posted - 27 Mar 2004 :  23:33:46  Show Profile  Visit Teflon's Homepage Send Teflon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm I didnt know this one was out yet. I was planning on getting this. I'll have to check my stores for it. Is it out for all stores nationwide?

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SiriusBlack
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USA
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Posted - 28 Mar 2004 :  02:48:32  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Teflon

Hmm I didnt know this one was out yet. I was planning on getting this. I'll have to check my stores for it. Is it out for all stores nationwide?



No idea. I got mine from textbook.com online for $5 and whatever the shipping charge was. Barnes and Noble has it, but they take forever to ship. Think Books a Thousands has it too. Both of the latter companies are listing it as shipping within 2-3 days.
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VEDSICA
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USA
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Posted - 31 Mar 2004 :  03:55:33  Show Profile  Visit VEDSICA's Homepage Send VEDSICA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was going to ask Richard if it would be out early

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SiriusBlack
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USA
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Posted - 31 Mar 2004 :  07:01:10  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VEDSICA

I was going to ask Richard if it would be out early



Most of the novels as of late have been coming out early. I hope the trend continues with Ed Greenwood's latest offering that is set to arrive shortly.
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VEDSICA
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Posted - 01 Apr 2004 :  19:08:25  Show Profile  Visit VEDSICA's Homepage Send VEDSICA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just picked it up from Walden Books today...

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 01 Apr 2004 :  21:23:38  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VEDSICA

Just picked it up from Walden Books today...



Oh yeah? Like I'm going to buy that story. You got a receipt scanned to prove you have this book?

Seriously, enjoy. I'm about 190 or so pages in and, it's very good so far in my opinion.
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VEDSICA
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Posted - 02 Apr 2004 :  00:23:16  Show Profile  Visit VEDSICA's Homepage Send VEDSICA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I should have to prove it.They usually don't put it out until the second week of the month around here.

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SiriusBlack
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USA
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Posted - 02 Apr 2004 :  05:53:06  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VEDSICA

I should have to prove it.They usually don't put it out until the second week of the month around here.



Where is here? Kinzua? Can't place that name. Glad you got it early!
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VEDSICA
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USA
466 Posts

Posted - 08 Apr 2004 :  04:02:05  Show Profile  Visit VEDSICA's Homepage Send VEDSICA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kinzua is part of the Allegheny National Forest in Pennsylvania.Up along the border with New York State.I was up there ona fishing trip.When I got home,a few days later is when I registered here at Candlekeep.The name stuck I guess.I'm actually from Pittsburgh.


Enough of that though.Now mind you.I haven't finished The Rage yet.Where in the Nine Hells is Ylraphon on the map?????Richard??Someone??Anyone??

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SiriusBlack
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USA
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Posted - 08 Apr 2004 :  05:00:34  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VEDSICA
Enough of that though.Now mind you.I haven't finished The Rage yet.Where in the Nine Hells is Ylraphon on the map?????Richard??Someone??Anyone??



Look underneath the Flooded Forest, east of The Cormanthor.
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 13 Apr 2004 :  03:27:59  Show Profile  Visit Richard Lee Byers's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The WotC site now has a character sketch of Dorn Graybrook, one of the central characters from The Rage.
The sketch doesn't contain any information that you won't learn (in, I hope, a more entertaining way) by reading the novel, but I still thought I'd mention its existence in case anyone wants to check it out.
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SiriusBlack
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USA
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Posted - 13 Apr 2004 :  04:17:54  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers

The WotC site now has a character sketch of Dorn Graybrook, one of the central characters from The Rage.



Don't suppose you have one of Taegan that might be released? Or saving his character sketch for future novels and/or stories?
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VEDSICA
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USA
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Posted - 13 Apr 2004 :  05:32:15  Show Profile  Visit VEDSICA's Homepage Send VEDSICA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Has the cover for the second novel been out yet????Who would you like to see on it??Richard??Do you get to pick what is on the cover????

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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 13 Apr 2004 :  14:49:09  Show Profile  Visit Richard Lee Byers's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sirius: Having read The Rage, you already know the basics of Taegan's bio. As far as a thumbnail sketch like the one of Dorn goes, none currently exists. I wrote the Dorn profile at WotC's request. If they ask for others to promote Books 2 and 3, one might be Taegan, or, it might not. I'd decide at the time.
Someone suggested I write up the central characters of the trilogy, complete with gaming stats, for Dragon. I'm thinking about that, but haven't decided if I want to query the editor about doing it (which would pretty much commit me) or tackle a different project.
Vedsica: If the cover for The Rite is done, nobody's bothered to show it to me. I have been told that the four covers (for the three novels and the anthology) will fit together to make one uber-illustration of a flight of raging dragons attacking a town. Each cover will showcase a different breed of dragon. I was asked to suggest specific breeds of dragons but have no idea whether Matt Slawicki used my suggestions. I've never had any direct communication with him.
Which is par for the course. In my experience, the author generally has little or no say in the cover art, design, etc. Maybe superstar writers like King, Grisham, and Clancy do, but not guys on my rung of the ladder. WotC is actually somewhat more interested in getting the writer's input than most publishers I've worked with. They ask sometimes, and sometimes go with what you suggest.
Anyway, since they used the dragons-attack-a-town idea, none of my specific characters will be on any of the covers. If they were going to be, I'd certainly like to see pictures of Taegan, Jivex, Dorn, Kara, Raryn, Pavel, and Will.
But I think the cover of The Rage is very nice, and expect the others to be also, so I'm well satisfied with what I'm getting.
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SiriusBlack
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USA
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Posted - 13 Apr 2004 :  17:10:48  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers
Which is par for the course. In my experience, the author generally has little or no say in the cover art, design, etc. Maybe superstar writers like King, Grisham, and Clancy do, but not guys on my rung of the ladder. WotC is actually somewhat more interested in getting the writer's input than most publishers I've worked with. They ask sometimes, and sometimes go with what you suggest.


Nice to hear that and thank you for replying. The best story I ever heard regarding writer/artist communication came for Elaine Cunningham sharing her conversations with Todd Lockwood regarding the new paperback versions of her Starlight & Shadows series. Interesting as Mr. Lockwood is also responsbile for some very fine covers for Mr. Salvatore's new Drizzt series. I wonder if he talked to the author in that case as well.
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VEDSICA
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Posted - 13 Apr 2004 :  19:41:57  Show Profile  Visit VEDSICA's Homepage Send VEDSICA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like the cover very much myself.I really like the bright yellow color of the letters.Also the style of letters.It really stands out.Plus the dragons vaporizing the townsfolk.That gets it's props as well.

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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 15 Apr 2004 :  15:00:57  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Where is "The Rage" set? North, south east or west?

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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SiriusBlack
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USA
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Posted - 15 Apr 2004 :  16:08:49  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Where is "The Rage" set? North, south east or west?

-- George Krashos




Impiltur is where the majority of the action takes place.
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 16 Apr 2004 :  05:41:33  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Impiltur. Great. I think. I guess we'll have to see what Richard did to it. Rage of Dragons. Hmmm.

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SiriusBlack
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USA
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Posted - 16 Apr 2004 :  05:51:39  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Impiltur. Great.



Enjoy it while it lasts....
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Teflon
Seeker

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Posted - 16 Apr 2004 :  06:07:42  Show Profile  Visit Teflon's Homepage Send Teflon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey Sirius is Sammaster involved in that novel, and does he play a major role? I would assume he does since it deals with dragons, but before I get into the novel I want to make sure. Sammmaster has been one of my favorite spell-casters but I havent seen him in any novels.

In any battle, the mightiest weapon is one that strikes unseen.

A Warrior or Wizard may be invincible in open battle, with their foes before them, but even they must sleep sometime, and cannot parry the knife that comes from behind.


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SiriusBlack
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USA
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Posted - 16 Apr 2004 :  06:19:19  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Teflon

Hey Sirius is Sammaster involved in that novel, and does he play a major role? I would assume he does since it deals with dragons, but before I get into the novel I want to make sure. Sammmaster has been one of my favorite spell-casters but I havent seen him in any novels.



Involved and a very big role. You also get a very interesting take on the origins for Dragon Rages at the novel's conclusion.
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Kuje
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Posted - 16 Apr 2004 :  07:29:08  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Involved and a very big role. You also get a very interesting take on the origins for Dragon Rages at the novel's conclusion.



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I wanna know which Mythal that is tied into. :)

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Dargoth
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Posted - 16 Apr 2004 :  08:14:19  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just finished reading it

Its a good read, Im rather disapointed about the map though as it doesnt put names to alot of the places mentioned in the book


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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 16 Apr 2004 :  16:53:59  Show Profile  Visit Richard Lee Byers's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Glad you liked it, Dargoth.
I know what you mean about the map. A little more detail would have been nice. Not knowing what kind of map I'd wind up with, I tried to indicate geographical relationships in the text, so I hope readers won't get too lost. If someone does, I guess he can always take a peek at the fold-out map in the back of the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 16 Apr 2004 :  17:00:59  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers

Glad you liked it, Dargoth.
I know what you mean about the map. A little more detail would have been nice. Not knowing what kind of map I'd wind up with, I tried to indicate geographical relationships in the text, so I hope readers won't get too lost. If someone does, I guess he can always take a peek at the fold-out map in the back of the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting.



At the start of the novel, I quite often got up to go into my study and reference the FRCS. I just am not as knowledgeable about the area you were writing in as I am with other areas of Faerun.

I'm quite happy with any map in a novel as long as it's fairly well done. Cheers to WOTC for including it.
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Lord Rad
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Posted - 17 Apr 2004 :  21:13:36  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well I finally got my hands on a copy of The Rage at my local hobby store today. I think the cover and internal layout (the lopsides logo and misaligned text) looks great Cant wait to get stuck in!

Still hoping that the Lady of Poison cover isnt like its shown though Wheres the reasoning behind that, I ask!?

Lord Rad

"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Maskanodel
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Posted - 18 Apr 2004 :  18:11:08  Show Profile  Visit Maskanodel's Homepage Send Maskanodel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just finished reading The Rage a day or so ago, and I must say, it was a really good read. I was wondering if anybody heard of any plans to include the game statistics for the characters in Dragon any time soon? I'd love to see stats for Raryn, Dorn, and Taegan.

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Kuje
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Posted - 18 Apr 2004 :  18:33:43  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Maskanodel

I just finished reading The Rage a day or so ago, and I must say, it was a really good read. I was wondering if anybody heard of any plans to include the game statistics for the characters in Dragon any time soon? I'd love to see stats for Raryn, Dorn, and Taegan.



Mr Byer's said atm he has no stat's for his characters but if there is a demand for them then he might see if Dragon is interested in printing them. Check his sticky thread in this forum. :)

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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author

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Posted - 18 Apr 2004 :  19:17:54  Show Profile  Visit Richard Lee Byers's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Maskanodel: Delighted to hear you enjoyed the book.
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