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Fellfire
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Posted - 22 Mar 2016 :  19:03:13  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
The title sums it up. How old do genasi live to be?

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hashimashadoo
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Posted - 22 Mar 2016 :  19:50:11  Show Profile  Visit hashimashadoo's Homepage Send hashimashadoo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The same as humans. Their elemental bloodlines don't extend their lifespans like the planetouched races from Pathfinder.

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Arivia
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Actually, that's not true. Page 31 of the Player's Guide to Faerun has compiled age tables for 3e races in the FR. Planetouched (including genasi) mature at 15 years + slightly longer than humans (take the die and step it up by 1). Humans in turn live for 70 + 2d20 years, while planetouched live for 90 + 3d20 years. So at the most, without other magics, 150 years as compared to 110 years for humans. The 3e FRCS notes that old age is peaceful and relatively healthy for most due to the intervention of deities, so you probably won't really go downhill until a year short of whatever you've rolled.
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Fellfire
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Besides elves and dwarves, which PC races have the most natural longevity?

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hashimashadoo
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Posted - 23 Mar 2016 :  19:02:17  Show Profile  Visit hashimashadoo's Homepage Send hashimashadoo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arivia

Actually, that's not true. Page 31 of the Player's Guide to Faerun has compiled age tables for 3e races in the FR. Planetouched (including genasi) mature at 15 years + slightly longer than humans (take the die and step it up by 1). Humans in turn live for 70 + 2d20 years, while planetouched live for 90 + 3d20 years. So at the most, without other magics, 150 years as compared to 110 years for humans.



It certainly WAS true before the PGtF was released since I'm using information from pages 114 - 121 of Races of Faerun. I imagine you can reconcile it by just how little difference there is between humans and planetouched.

Certainly there's a drastic difference between them and the seven centuries difference between humans and the elemental races in PFRPG.

As to Fellfire's second question: rock gnomes can potentially live longer than dwarves can.

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Edited by - hashimashadoo on 23 Mar 2016 19:03:53
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Bladewind
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The rare psionic 'race' of Elans are near-immortal abhumans. They don't reproduce naturally but are elected by mysterious psychic entities in a (jhaamdathi?) ritual, where humans are made into beings with 'effectively unlimited lifespans' and capable of sustaining themselves on psychic energies only.

It is very much the definition of not natural, though, as they effectively stop being a human.

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hashimashadoo
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Posted - 23 Mar 2016 :  20:51:40  Show Profile  Visit hashimashadoo's Homepage Send hashimashadoo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Bladewind

The rare psionic 'race' of Elans are near-immortal abhumans. They don't reproduce naturally but are elected by mysterious psychic entities in a (jhaamdathi?) ritual, where humans are made into beings with 'effectively unlimited lifespans' and capable of sustaining themselves on psychic energies only.

It is very much the definition of not natural, though, as they effectively stop being a human.



As of 1374 DR, there are only twelve known elans alive on Toril. The secrets of making new ones were lost with Jhaamdath.

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Icelander
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Somewhat related, I've been wondering whether the last level of some prestige classes, like Elemental Savant, should have an effect on the lifespan of characters.

That would be prestige classes where the last level changes the type of the character to Outsider, Elemental or something similar.

Mechanically, whether a character is due to grow old 30, 50, 100 or 500 years from the date of play is such a minor detail that it's not remotely unbalancing.

From a world-building point of view, it seems that these classes represent a human rising above purely mortal concerns and ought to be one of the methods whereby a character born human might have a lifespan more in line with more magical races.

Does anyone happen to know of any canon lore on the subject?

It seems odd to me that once someone has transcended their mortal form and no longer needs to eat, drink or even breathe, they will still die from natural causes at a date determined by whether they were originally born human, halfling, orc, half-elf or dwarf.

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sleyvas
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quote:
Originally posted by hashimashadoo

quote:
Originally posted by Bladewind

The rare psionic 'race' of Elans are near-immortal abhumans. They don't reproduce naturally but are elected by mysterious psychic entities in a (jhaamdathi?) ritual, where humans are made into beings with 'effectively unlimited lifespans' and capable of sustaining themselves on psychic energies only.

It is very much the definition of not natural, though, as they effectively stop being a human.



As of 1374 DR, there are only twelve known elans alive on Toril. The secrets of making new ones were lost with Jhaamdath.



Where'd this come from?

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hashimashadoo
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Posted - 24 Apr 2016 :  18:03:03  Show Profile  Visit hashimashadoo's Homepage Send hashimashadoo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
One of Eytan Bernstein's great Realms adaptation articles on the old Wizards website.

http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/frcc/20070620

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sleyvas
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Posted - 25 Apr 2016 :  13:52:52  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hashimashadoo

One of Eytan Bernstein's great Realms adaptation articles on the old Wizards website.

http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/frcc/20070620



nice. I like the idea behind Abysm the Schismed too.

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