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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
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 Posted - 22 Mar 2004 : 22:16:37
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Hail!
Okey, heres the deal. I have read the Icewind Dale Trilogy and I am half-way into the Dark-Elf Trilogy.
Now, the question is: Which one should I read when I am done with these? I do not have much idea. I like to read about the five friends, but I would like to read about someone else now.......I think.
Any suggestions would be fine, everyone should say what they think.
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Bellua Aeneus Lacerta
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 22 Mar 2004 : 23:22:50
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Well, if you want to stick with Salvatore, "The Cleric Quintet" came out next by release date.... |
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VEDSICA
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 23 Mar 2004 : 02:39:37
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| The Cleric Quintet was the first thing that popped into my mind.If you want to read from a different author.Try The Threat from the Sea trilogy by Mel Odom. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 23 Mar 2004 : 03:45:29
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Originally posted by Ezindir the dark
Any suggestions would be fine, everyone should say what they think.
Well, any subject matter interest you in particular or not interest you? Want to read about a certain area? Certain race? |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 23 Mar 2004 : 08:31:52
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Ack! brush it all aside...... grab hold of the Sembia Series or War of the Spider Queen!  |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Adrian Moonbow
Seeker
Denmark
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Posted - 23 Mar 2004 : 08:47:47
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The Sembia series or anything by Elaine Cunningham: Song & Sword, Starlight & Shadow or Councillors & Kings are all good series. WotSQ is a good series but not resolved yet (and very slow coming out in PB ) |
"I would have wanted not to die.
I would have wanted never to grow up!"
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Lina
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 23 Mar 2004 : 09:46:43
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I second the notion of the Sembia Series - a very good read. The Everis Cale Triology and The Rouge Series are another option too. |
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"Thieves? Ah, such an ugly word... look upon them as the most honest sort of merchant."
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 23 Mar 2004 : 09:54:10
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Of course theres always the Finders Stone Trilogy and Heroes of Phlan to give you a nice flavor.
::whispers:: keep 'em coming fellow scribes, we'll have Ezindir with the full FR novel collection at this rate   |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Narad Bladesinger
Learned Scribe
Finland
170 Posts |
Posted - 23 Mar 2004 : 15:44:28
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If you want something action-packed, just read Spellfire (they killed 3 dracoliches and a blackdragon )
Cunningham's novels are also good.
Hey, while everyone is here I've got to ask this:
Since I live in Finland I really can't buy books in stores so I decided to order over the internet.
The question is: What shall I order? (I was thinking about the Return of the Archwizards trilogy since its a major event in realms, but I'm not sure yet...) |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
603 Posts |
Posted - 23 Mar 2004 : 17:34:21
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Narad:I live in Norway, and I know the problem about stores, but since I live in the capital city there is one store which sells the Books. But if I want a spesiall book I will mostly have to buy it, and then I order it in my local bookstore, and then I don't have to pay for shipping it.
Everyone: I would like to read somthing by R.A Salvatore, I would mostly like to read about a person adn not a god for now, and gennerally I just wanted to know a good book that I should read, so that I don't have to read somthing crappy, if such a FR novel exists. |
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Winterfox
Senior Scribe
895 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2004 : 02:46:27
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Originally posted by Ezindir the dark
Everyone: I would like to read somthing by R.A Salvatore, I would mostly like to read about a person adn not a god for now, and gennerally I just wanted to know a good book that I should read, so that I don't have to read somthing crappy, if such a FR novel exists.
Yes, well, everyone's opinion of "crappy" differs. I, for instance, stay as far away as I can from Spellfire and a number of other books. If you crave R.A. Salvatore, then you might enjoy the Cleric Quintet. (Although, considering some of his characters' invincibility, that might just contradict your wanting to read about a person rather than a god, ahaha.) |
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Magic Matt
Seeker
USA
70 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2004 : 03:08:06
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The Everis Cale Trilogy(Twilight Falling) by Paul S Kemp
Song & Sword, Starlight & Shadow or Councillors & Kings series by Elaine Cunningham
The City of Ravens by Richard Baker
"Venom's Taste" by Lisa Smedman
The Moonshae Trilogy by Douglas Niles {good luck finding this series, but well worth it}
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-Winston Churchill- (to Neville Chamberlain)
The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.
-William Shakespeare, "As You Like It", Act 5 scene 1
He who will not reason is a bigot. He who cannot is a fool. and he who dares not is a slave.
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2004 : 05:29:10
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Originally posted by Ezindir the dark
Everyone: I would like to read somthing by R.A Salvatore, I would mostly like to read about a person adn not a god for now, and gennerally I just wanted to know a good book that I should read, so that I don't have to read somthing crappy, if such a FR novel exists.
Cleric Quintet than. I believe no gods are featured. I know someone personally who read it and she enjoyed the series. I have no idea myself, even her recommendation did nothing to motivate me to give it a go. |
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Winterfox
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 24 Mar 2004 : 09:07:28
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Well, here's a quick run-down of my opinion of CQ (note: opinion, mine alone, take it or leave it as you will):
1. The use of dwarves as comic relief -- angers me. (You don't want to know my opinion of Peter Jackson's portrayal of Gimli. Dear gods, he's a stout, steadfast dwarf, not a mentally retarded Neanderthal!) At first, it was somewhat cute. Almost amusing, even, but as the series progresses on, the same jokes are repeated again and again -- the Bouldershoulder brothers can get really old really fast. After a while, it reminds me of Tasselhoff Burrfoot: forced comic relief. Pikel seems to be so eccentric just for the sake of being an exception, and falls rather flat. (Also goes in the "mentally retarded Neanderthal" category, just with druidic flare and considerably less maturity.) If you like the portrayal of dwarves in RAS' other books, you'll likely have no problem with this.
2. Spoiler (highlight to read): "Luke, I am your father!" moment. Hohoho.
3. Kierkan Rufo -- worst antagonist I've read about. Ever. He's pathetic, he's physically unattractive, he's spineless, he's a total and utter failure in his competition with Cadderly (including clerical abilities, winning love of a woman, et all). He's used throughout the books by bigger fish (except for the last book), but that doesn't excuse the fact that he's the Loser of the Century(TM). You see, it seems to me that Rufo's only goal in existence is to look as bad as possible, so that Cadderly can look better. Unnecessary, IMO. Even Wormtongue has something going for him for being manipulative, but Rufo? Cardboard cut-out with no redeeming quality whatsoever. Spoiler: his vampirism made me bash my head against the nearest wall. Even then, he wasn't scary; he was still just a stereotypical vampiric villain -- including the "I'll make the woman I lust after a vampire so she can be with me eternally!" cliche.
4. Spoiler: Semi-unhappy ending: probably the thing I like best about this series -- Cadderly becomes prematurely old after building a cathedral to his god. Unfortunately, it's spoiled when, later, he regains his youth and all's well once more. Sigh.
5. Danica -- I don't know why, but most of RAS' female characters tickle me the wrong way. This is personal reference, of course. All of them feel stilted and unnatural to me. Reminds me a bit of princess Leia in the more badly-written Star Wars novels. Danica, in particular, reminds me somewhat of Leia as portrayed in The Courtship of Princess Leia. I'm being extremely vague, of course, unless you've read Courtship, so you can just ignore this point.
6. Cadderly -- I find him more complex than, say, Drizzt. He was quite fun to read about in the first book, but IMO devolves in the later books into an invincible, arrogant priest. |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2004 : 12:01:16
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Hi Winterfox, just a quick question for you..... what are your 5 favorite FR novels? Surely you must enjoy a least a few of them to stay a Realms fan?!
Back to the subject of this topic - im almost finished with Venoms Taste and read City of Ravens just before that, so before The Rage comes out, id like to read another of the Cities books - does anyone have any recommendations as to which one to go for between Temple Hill and Jewel of Turmish. Reasons too, please. |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Winterfox
Senior Scribe
895 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2004 : 12:42:29
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Originally posted by Rad
Hi Winterfox, just a quick question for you..... what are your 5 favorite FR novels? Surely you must enjoy a least a few of them to stay a Realms fan?!
Most certainly. No need for the exclamation mark.
1. Songs & Swords series by EC -- for obvious reason. Danilo, Arilyn, Elaith, et all are all marvelously written characters.
2. Counselor & King trilogy by EC -- I like political intrigue, what can I say? Great plot, rich setting (Halruaa explored in detail at last!), and entertaining characters. None of which is invincible and/or perfect.
3. Starlight & Shadows trilogy by EC -- fun, strong female lead with flaws. And she doesn't angst about morals/the evil of her people a whole lot, either.
4. War of the Spider Queen series by various authors (yes, I'm even aware that RAS is involved in it. See? I don't selectively dislike work because of the author -- it's the writing, always, not the author) -- drow. Evil. No angst about "My people are sooo evil! I cannot be accepted on the surface! Waaah!" either. Not so far, anyway. Good characterization, wonderful writing (yay Mr. Lee Byers!), unpredictable plot.
5. The Shattered Mask by Richard Lee Byers -- I wuv Shamur. To little bits. A mature strong female lead. Actually in her forties! (Or fifties?) And no elven/planar blood to make her look like a teenager, either. People just don't write about "old" protagonists in fantasy -- that's, like, so not glamourous. Psst.
And on and on. Evermeet: Island of Elves, Finder's Stone trilogy (and the sequels, Finder's Bane and Tymora's Luck), Lord of Stormweather. |
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Narad Bladesinger
Learned Scribe
Finland
170 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2004 : 14:01:10
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Originally posted by Ezindir the dark
Narad:I live in Norway, and I know the problem about stores, but since I live in the capital city there is one store which sells the Books. But if I want a spesiall book I will mostly have to buy it, and then I order it in my local bookstore, and then I don't have to pay for shipping it.
I wish I'd be as lucky as you...
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Magic Matt
Seeker
USA
70 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2004 : 14:23:41
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Originally posted by Winterfox
Well, here's a quick run-down of my opinion of CQ (note: opinion, mine alone, take it or leave it as you will):
1. The use of dwarves as comic relief -- angers me. (You don't want to know my opinion of Peter Jackson's portrayal of Gimli. Dear gods, he's a stout, steadfast dwarf, not a mentally retarded Neanderthal!) At first, it was somewhat cute. Almost amusing, even, but as the series progresses on, the same jokes are repeated again and again -- the Bouldershoulder brothers can get really old really fast. After a while, it reminds me of Tasselhoff Burrfoot: forced comic relief. Pikel seems to be so eccentric just for the sake of being an exception, and falls rather flat. (Also goes in the "mentally retarded Neanderthal" category, just with druidic flare and considerably less maturity.) If you like the portrayal of dwarves in RAS' other books, you'll likely have no problem with this.
2. Spoiler (highlight to read): "Luke, I am your father!" moment. Hohoho.
3. Kierkan Rufo -- worst antagonist I've read about. Ever. He's pathetic, he's physically unattractive, he's spineless, he's a total and utter failure in his competition with Cadderly (including clerical abilities, winning love of a woman, et all). He's used throughout the books by bigger fish (except for the last book), but that doesn't excuse the fact that he's the Loser of the Century(TM). You see, it seems to me that Rufo's only goal in existence is to look as bad as possible, so that Cadderly can look better. Unnecessary, IMO. Even Wormtongue has something going for him for being manipulative, but Rufo? Cardboard cut-out with no redeeming quality whatsoever. Spoiler: his vampirism made me bash my head against the nearest wall. Even then, he wasn't scary; he was still just a stereotypical vampiric villain -- including the "I'll make the woman I lust after a vampire so she can be with me eternally!" cliche.
4. Spoiler: Semi-unhappy ending: probably the thing I like best about this series -- Cadderly becomes prematurely old after building a cathedral to his god. Unfortunately, it's spoiled when, later, he regains his youth and all's well once more. Sigh.
5. Danica -- I don't know why, but most of RAS' female characters tickle me the wrong way. This is personal reference, of course. All of them feel stilted and unnatural to me. Reminds me a bit of princess Leia in the more badly-written Star Wars novels. Danica, in particular, reminds me somewhat of Leia as portrayed in The Courtship of Princess Leia. I'm being extremely vague, of course, unless you've read Courtship, so you can just ignore this point.
6. Cadderly -- I find him more complex than, say, Drizzt. He was quite fun to read about in the first book, but IMO devolves in the later books into an invincible, arrogant priest.
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Wow, that is the perfect review of that series, I am stunned and amazed that you got my feelings exactly for CQ WOW! |
"You had a choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor, and you will have war."
-Winston Churchill- (to Neville Chamberlain)
The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.
-William Shakespeare, "As You Like It", Act 5 scene 1
He who will not reason is a bigot. He who cannot is a fool. and he who dares not is a slave.
-Sir William Drummond- |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2004 : 15:16:07
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Originally posted by Winterfox
Well, here's a quick run-down of my opinion of CQ (note: opinion, mine alone, take it or leave it as you will):
Thank you for the post. The spoiler in #4 was enough to covince me I made the correct decision on this series. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2004 : 15:18:28
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Originally posted by Winterfox
Most certainly. No need for the exclamation mark.
Ah, but Rad is a senior scribe and they are used to using exclamation points as if they are in command.
Plus, he's from the UK, and didn't they use to run the world? I'm surprised he doesn't end each of his posts with a series of !!!!  |
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2004 : 17:23:04
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| Songs and Swords. Deffinately. |
Hell hath no fury like all of Candlekeep rising in defense of one of its own.
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 24 Mar 2004 : 17:52:07
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Winterfox
Most certainly. No need for the exclamation mark.
Ah, but Rad is a senior scribe and they are used to using exclamation points as if they are in command.
Plus, he's from the UK, and didn't they use to run the world? I'm surprised he doesn't end each of his posts with a series of !!!!
Now where did I put my Union Jack flag?! !..with an FR logo sewn on top of course |
Lord Rad
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Winterfox
Senior Scribe
895 Posts |
Posted - 25 Mar 2004 : 02:36:28
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Multiple exclamation marks = wearing underpants on your head, donchaknow. (Ahem. Terry Pratchett fan, anyone?)
Magic Matt: I read your mind, you see. And also stalk you. Hohoho. |
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MuadDib
Senior Scribe
South Africa
442 Posts |
Posted - 25 Mar 2004 : 06:03:09
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im with VEDSICA here,
I totally adore the Threat from the Sea Trilogy by Mel Odom, although i've not read the last book yet. Im working on it though... |
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe
Norway
603 Posts |
Posted - 25 Mar 2004 : 07:58:30
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| I think I will chose the Cleric quinted for now, but I would like to read somthing which is alittle comical to, but not the old regular fantasy humor: Make fun of the short one. Somthing like terry Prathcett would be fun. Are there such FR novels? |
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