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Richtin
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Posted - 06 Apr 2004 :  19:06:12  Show Profile  Visit Richtin's Homepage Send Richtin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
im going to have to go with bookwyrm and sage, do you have substantial evidence for a different theory???

"Where in the Nine Hells did you ever get the notion that I would fight fair?"
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The Cardinal
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Posted - 06 Apr 2004 :  20:21:39  Show Profile  Visit The Cardinal's Homepage Send The Cardinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I shall have to concede this one for the time being, for we are still attempting to work out our second piece of evidence (which is part of a collection of fields that I have no real grasp on... too many laws attempting to explain things). We do provide that no creature (Deity or mortal) as ever gone around the world to simply state it is round, but that is no arguement... when we finally formulate a theory dealing with prisms, light, illusions and the bending of rays... then we'll post it.... ... .... I figure we should have something like that in several years...


It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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The Sage
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Posted - 07 Apr 2004 :  05:01:06  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
....\'a collection of fields that I have no real grasp on'...Maybe it's something that I can help you with Cardinal...?

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The Cardinal
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Posted - 07 Apr 2004 :  07:32:28  Show Profile  Visit The Cardinal's Homepage Send The Cardinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Isn't that kinda switching sides?

Ah... the fields... English (Lit, Poetry, etc), Social Studies, Philosophy, Religion, Superstition, some Psychology, with a smattering of Biology those we understand. Mathematics, Chemistry (Not to be confused with Alchemy) and the most important to our arguement physics those I never did get, more or less We've always loved the ideas behind all those deep thoughts in physics, the impossible made possible etc..... it's the fundamentals that bored us... Anyways, thanks Sage but I doubt your such a miracle worker so... I have some very heavy reading for awhile,

* Pulls out and dusts off 'Understanding Physics by Issac Asimov'*
Our little bible that allowed us to go down with a fight in our old physics Class .... we failed misserably but went down fighting none the less
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No one happens to have any theories on how an object's Image can be bent do they? Or perhaps the page number in the Textbook?


It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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Edited by - The Cardinal on 07 Apr 2004 07:39:55
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Shadowlord
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Posted - 08 Apr 2004 :  02:19:47  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It seems that my question has been answered. Abeir-Toril: Round or Flat? Most Definitely Spherical. Now, on to my next question. Abeir-Toril: Does it have an axis?

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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The Sage
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Posted - 08 Apr 2004 :  02:38:02  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
All worlds have some kind of axis of rotation Shadowlord - that is, all spheroid celestial bodies. Most of the SJ material states that these worlds have a spin of some kind. The "world" of Garden for example, doesn't. Only the clusters of earth rotate around a central point, but the clusters do not have an axis themselves.

The main issue here would be to determine whether the most learned sages of Faerun would have access to such knowledge. Since the mechanics behind a theory of an axis of rotation would require an understanding of several disciplines of study outside of what these most learned sages of Faerun would know, I would think that such information is beyond them.

Knowledge of spin and rotation, would of course be familiar to any native who studies the celestial heavens above the land of Faerun, but this would only be knowledge gleaned from insight into the notion of whether or not the world is round or flat - at least to begin with. Given time, and the evolution of knowledge, such a notion could generate a basic understanding of a theory of axial rotation.

Perhaps it has already...

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Richtin
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Posted - 22 May 2004 :  09:14:08  Show Profile  Visit Richtin's Homepage Send Richtin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Couldntit be that"these learned sages" are influenced a deity???

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The Sage
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Posted - 22 May 2004 :  09:23:59  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What do you mean Richtin?

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cpthero2
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Posted - 30 Sep 2018 :  16:10:56  Show Profile  Visit cpthero2's Homepage Send cpthero2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Master Shadowlord,

haha...I loved seeing this. I never thought I would see flat-earth theory arrive in the Realms (not saying you are one), but seeing that was epic! You win sir, you win a lot!

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Originally posted by Shadowlord

Abeir-Toril: Round or Flat? I was rereading Twilight Falling by Paul S. Kemp when it hit me; The object Cale carries is round. Think of the possibilities, though. This may mean that a PC can sail from Kara-Tur to Evermeet, just by sailing west. A Zakharan might be able to sail to Waterdeep without going around Faerūn. What is your opinion?


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