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Phantom_Lord
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Pakistan
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 Posted - 20 Mar 2004 : 06:40:46
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Okay anyone know the premises of future FR novels?
I hear theres going to be a FR novel about Khelben going mad and ending up killing a 'prominent' FR character.
What is the story of 'The Rage' dragon series?
I'm mega curious.
Kudos.
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 20 Mar 2004 : 06:46:36
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| Well, the Rage will definitely have something to do with a rage of dragons...which is essentially a migratory flight of dragons...and will likely have something to do with 1373's entry on the Roll of Years...which is the Year of Rogue Dragons. |
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 20 Mar 2004 : 13:38:32
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 20 Mar 2004 : 15:33:28
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Originally posted by Phantom_Lord
What is the story of 'The Rage' dragon series?
There are two sample chapters out that might provide you with clues. One is in the back of The Black Boquet novel that is already out. The other is online at the WOTC novel site. |
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Teflon
Seeker
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Posted - 20 Mar 2004 : 16:32:19
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Originally posted by Phantom_Lord
Okay anyone know the premises of future FR novels?
I hear theres going to be a FR novel about Khelben going mad and ending up killing a 'prominent' FR character.
Anyone got any info on this, seems very very interesting.. I've also heard about this somewhere, just cant quite place it. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 20 Mar 2004 : 16:34:00
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Originally posted by Teflon
I hear theres going to be a FR novel about Khelben going mad and ending up killing a 'prominent' FR character.
Please let us know if you or Phantom Lord can recall the source for this information. |
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Proc
Acolyte
Canada
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Posted - 20 Mar 2004 : 18:29:04
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Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers
You can find a smidgin of information about The Year of Rogue Dragons Trilogy in the Questions for Richard Lee Byers topic.
What lengths are you willing to go to in order to promote this novel? I mean seriously, you have your own thread, and here you are invading others... (kidding  )
I'm really looking forward to the Year of Rogue Dragon's trilogy, as I greatly enjoyed Dissolution and The Black Bouquet.
PS - Yay, my first post on Candlekeep. I'm another refugee from the WotC novel forums, and was lost for a little bit until my DM gave me a shove towards this site. I'm astounded at the amount of interaction between the fans and the authors. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2004 : 02:55:42
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Originally posted by Proc
What lengths are you willing to go to in order to promote this novel? I mean seriously, you have your own thread, and here you are invading others... (kidding )
Now that was hilarious and very gutsy for a first post. 
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fiveways mike
Acolyte
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Posted - 21 Mar 2004 : 14:09:30
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 21 Mar 2004 : 14:45:32
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
What lengths are you willing to go to in order to promote this novel?
When RLB shows up wearing a dragon costume and carrrying a flame thrower, then maybe -- MAYBE -- there might be a case for excessive enthusiasm.
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2004 : 16:05:49
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
When RLB shows up wearing a dragon costume and carrrying a flame thrower, then maybe -- MAYBE -- there might be a case for excessive enthusiasm.
Or has a Dragon graphic within his signature announcing the novel's release. Actually, given how some people aren't up to date on current FR releases, that might not be a bad idea at times. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 21 Mar 2004 : 18:00:10
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Ah, the wonders of creative marketing ideas... Don't you agree, Sirius?  |
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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 21 Mar 2004 : 18:34:21
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Or has a Dragon graphic within his signature announcing the novel's release. Actually, given how some people aren't up to date on current FR releases, that might not be a bad idea at times.
Actually, this idea sounds pretty nifty: the book title, under which would be a bit of animation with a dragon that breathes letters of fire reading "Coming July 2004," or some such. |
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
1814 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2004 : 21:28:55
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A dragon costume? I'd feel a little self-conscious.
Fortunately, there's an alternative, because I live in Florida, where we have alligators. I've already glued the wings on, and am training him to walk on a leash. Next, I have to send for his GenCon membership. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2004 : 22:00:31
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Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers
A dragon costume? I'd feel a little self-conscious.
Fortunately, there's an alternative, because I live in Florida, where we have alligators. I've already glued the wings on, and am training him to walk on a leash. Next, I have to send for his GenCon membership.
Really? Where abouts in Florida? I myself live on the Space Coast... |
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
1814 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2004 : 22:41:30
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 22 Mar 2004 : 01:11:48
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VEDSICA
Senior Scribe
USA
466 Posts |
Posted - 22 Mar 2004 : 01:59:22
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| Khelben killing a prominent FR character.Very,very interesting... |
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Elmonster
Acolyte
Russia
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Posted - 24 Mar 2004 : 17:51:58
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Khelben killing a prominent FR character.Very,very interesting...
Hope it won't be Elminster! No,no it can't be Elminster. I think it would be Halaster  |
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
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Posted - 24 Mar 2004 : 19:09:30
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Originally posted by Elmonster
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Khelben killing a prominent FR character.Very,very interesting...
Hope it won't be Elminster! No,no it can't be Elminster. I think it would be Halaster
I'm still wondering the source from where this rumor started... Anyone?
As for whom Khelben might be vaguely interested in removing from the chessboard of Realms powers, you never know truly....but you could probably guess he'd limit himself to those who make trouble for whole countries or regions (or those who threaten fair Waterdeep).
If you're simply fishing for lists of those whose presence or existence irritates Khelben like a bad rash, I hope you have a lot of paper....He's still holding a grudge against someone for insults slung more than 500 years ago.....
Steven
Whoops. Another scroll incoming....
>ahem< "As for my potential slaying of the last Aumar, that is codswallop purely and simply. E'en you of shorter lifespans know that comrades and friends are to be treasured, even when they are difficult to endure for long visits. After more than six centuries, it's hard to find folk who intrigue me, let alone surprise me, and Elminster has always done both. I only tremble at the thought of a tenday's visit from the Old Mage for the integrity of my larder as well as that of some lissome apprentices. Truly, if I sought death, I would hardly look at ally and friend.
For that other matter, the Blackcloak and I remain in respectful detente, both at the behest of mortals (Piergeiron, Durnan) and gods (Mystra). Besides, were he to fall, was not Halaster's Harvestide enough to show that Halaster's death wreaks far more havoc than his continuation? I may not enjoy Undermountain's presence, but it serves many a purpose not immediately understood without some centuries of hindsight...
Fair thee well, younglings. Speculations always intrigue, regardless of how close to the mark they lie..
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 Mar 2004 : 04:34:12
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Originally posted by Steven Schend
Besides, were he to fall, was not Halaster's Harvestide enough to show that Halaster's death wreaks far more havoc than his continuation?
Yeah, but what an adventure. A fun, fun time....save of course for the Waterdeep citizens. I hope their insurance deductibles weren't too high. |
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Phantom_Lord
Seeker
Pakistan
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Posted - 26 Mar 2004 : 15:33:01
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Okay, I still haven't been able to recall as to who told me, or where I read, about the Khelben going mad storyline.
I CAN however, point to some vague clues as to why he COULD go mad.
The CLOAK & DAGGER product shows Khelben in an EXREMELY shadey light. I mean here is the founder of the Harpers who gets KICKED out of the harpers and ends up upsetting a LOT of them in the process, I mean the Harpers split BECAUSE of him.
He can't even travel through Harper portals, I mean the club is mega upset with his 'actions' -- Heck even I'd be.
I think Mr Steven Schend could enlighten us a bit more on that aspect, since he is one of the co-authors of Cloak and Dagger. Great product Sir, truly the last of the Amazing 2e quality Products.
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
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Posted - 26 Mar 2004 : 17:13:34
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Originally posted by Phantom_Lord
Okay, I still haven't been able to recall as to who told me, or where I read, about the Khelben going mad storyline.
I CAN however, point to some vague clues as to why he COULD go mad.
The CLOAK & DAGGER product shows Khelben in an EXREMELY shadey light.
It did, didn't it? 
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I mean here is the founder of the Harpers who gets KICKED out of the harpers
Actually, he quit rather than answer the charges laid before him. I suppose it could be argued ala "he said/she said" but in Khelben's mind, he dismissed the Harpers and their allegations rather than explain his actions. In some Harpers' minds, I suppose it could be said he was dismissed, but I tend to take Khelben's side. <shrug>
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and ends up upsetting a LOT of them in the process, I mean the Harpers split BECAUSE of him.
It would appear so, wouldn't it? Then again, an awful lot of Khelben's long-time agents didn't seem all that surprised by those events and easily folded into the Moonstars. <cryptic smirk>
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He can't even travel through Harper portals, I mean the club is mega upset with his 'actions' -- Heck even I'd be.
Who says he can't travel through Harper portals? Given that he's helped refound the Harpers at least twice in recorded history and that he and Elminster are at the heart of many of the magics the Harpers take for granted, I'd truly be surprised if he and his agents still don't make use of such resources as they can without being caught at it.
After all, it's the hoary old "I taught them everything THEY know, but I didn't teach them everything I know...." 
Honestly, while many conservative Harpers gripe about the schism and Khelben's wrangling of many agents out of their ranks, many others simply continue their work and are starting to recognize that the only differencesamong them are:
A) Khelben's crew has a central authority through which all information and objectives flows.
B) The Moonstars don't always know why they're asked to perform certain tasks, but most have worked with Khelben long enough to know that even a piece of the puzzle is often important. Khelben's definitely a "need-to-know-basis" kinda boss, and only those who can work under such methods have become Moonstars.
C) Some Moonstars may note that much of their activity has had less to do with politics and trade and a bit more focus on watching various temples and whole religious orders, scoping out various magical personages and schools, and tracking down various lost lore, artifacts and items, and stalking those who make the latter tasks their livelihoods.
D) If your characters push any of the Chosen or other long-standing allies of Khelben's as to finding out his motivations, all give a stock answer: "The best way to ask a question of someone's motives is to ask directly. Be sure to leave instructions for your next of kin, should you disturb the Blackstaff uninvited, though...."
If they are closer and might even deserve more of an answer, let them know "Khelben and those who act in his name operate on a slightly more expansive playing field than most, and while some of what he does seems nefarious in the short term, trust that he and his work toward the greater good of the Realms entire and worry little over short-term things like current politics or current administrations."
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I think Mr Steven Schend could enlighten us a bit more on that aspect, since he is one of the co-authors of Cloak and Dagger. Great product Sir, truly the last of the Amazing 2e quality Products.
Well, thank you very much from me and my absent co-conspirators Eric Boyd, Dale Donovan, and Sean Reynolds. I trust there's enough enlightenment and obfuscation above to whet the appetite?
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Phantom_Lord
Seeker
Pakistan
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Posted - 27 Mar 2004 : 06:39:42
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First of all, Thank you Mr Steven Schend for shedding some light on these shadey matters. Thank you for the time you have taken out and the time you will be taking out hopefully again in the future!
*** SPOILERS***
So do you, or can you, confirm that there will be a novel (set in waterdeep?) about the Harper Schism? Or atleast about Khelben's actions? i.e. The scepter of the sorcerer kings fiasco, or shaking hands with Fzoul, or even the fact that Elminster is silent throughout this whole time...
Also, how come and why is it, that the return of Bane into the FR Pantheon has ever been done in novel format? (Calling Denning, Lowder and Ciecin!)
Surely he is one of the more awe inspiring and evil Gods of the realms? Shouldn't he have like a trilogy about his return? I'm just asking since you have touched upon the subject in Claok & Dagger. And what do you think about the whole "Return of Bane" scenario? One more thing, the character of Scyulla Darkhope in the FRCS is she the same Scyulla in C&D?
Yourself, S K Reynolds, D Donovan and E L Boyd did a really, really good job with this product! Its a shame that there aren't many good products like this out in 3E.
I know these are one questions too many, but they do kinda stick out in me head most of the time and would like someone in an esteemed position as yourself tell me whats right and wrong, rather than me being a part of a rumor.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 27 Mar 2004 : 07:50:31
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Thank you for that bit of info, Sage Schend! I like the Tel'Teukiira a whole lot more than I like the Harpers... I like the way they're organized, and the fact that not all of the members are good... Oh, and it also helps that Kyriani is a member.
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 27 Mar 2004 : 08:59:23
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Ive got a different take on it
Halaster either dies some how or manages to escape from being the Lord of Undermountain
Undermountain goes nuts like it did during Halasters Harvest spit monsters out into the streets of Waterdeep. KB seeing that theres no way to stop it with out someone taking Halaster job, KB "takes one for the team" and becomes the Lord of Undermountain which of cause makes him mad.
As for who he kills a few guesses: Lord Piergon, Manshoon (the clone inside Undermountain) or if its a particulalry dark novel Laeral |
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Narad Bladesinger
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 27 Mar 2004 : 10:08:54
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I think it as a too hard job, even for Khelben, to kill Halster. Either he lures Halaster out of Undermountain or he gets Very lucky...
But must be some other characters he could kill. If he goes crazy, he could kill one of mystra's chosen... Sammaster tried (though maybe under the influence of an evil priest) |
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
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Posted - 28 Mar 2004 : 00:04:19
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Originally posted by Narad Bladesinger
I think it as a too hard job, even for Khelben, to kill Halster. Either he lures Halaster out of Undermountain or he gets Very lucky...
But must be some other characters he could kill. If he goes crazy, he could kill one of mystra's chosen... Sammaster tried (though maybe under the influence of an evil priest)
And look at what happened to him....
Steven
Who wants to start rumors of a kinder, gentler, more approachable Khelben, who nevertheless ruthlessly denies that he sleeps with a tarrasque plush toy and will blast anyone who says into into the nearest extradimensional space.... |
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
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Posted - 28 Mar 2004 : 00:47:44
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Originally posted by Phantom_Lord
First of all, Thank you Mr Steven Schend for shedding some light on these shadey matters. Thank you for the time you have taken out and the time you will be taking out hopefully again in the future!
*** SPOILERS***
So do you, or can you, confirm that there will be a novel (set in waterdeep?) about the Harper Schism? Or atleast about Khelben's actions? i.e. The scepter of the sorcerer kings fiasco, or shaking hands with Fzoul, or even the fact that Elminster is silent throughout this whole time...
I can't confirm, deny, or even guess as to a novel about the Harper Schism, as I'm hardly in the loop any more. If anything like that ever happened, I pray I'd get a shot at doing something with it, since it was about 85% my plot with input from various and sundry during the design process. As it is, those decisions are made well outside my purview and, like everyone else, I have to wait to see what's coming out.
The Scepter of the Sorcerer Kings "fiasco," as you put it, was one of my plans I insisted upon; that artifact was way, way, way too powerful and that's why I went out of my way to remove it from the Realms. Thought I did the same with the baneliches and house cleaning of Banite remnants to clear the field and pit Cyric vs. Xvim...but that's changed too, I guess. 
Re: Khelben's dealings with Fzoul: "I believe your world has that pat phrase to suit the bill: `Better the devil you know...'"
I also have the feeling that Khelben has other things he's guarding against and plotting against that forced him to deal with Fzoul. Ponder exactly what sorts of things could be going on if cutting a deal and trading power with the Chosen of Xvim/Bane is the lesser of those evils....
And Elminster keeps mum about a great many more things than most ever realize whilst distracting y'all with so much lore on so many other things.
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Also, how come and why is it, that the return of Bane into the FR Pantheon has ever been done in novel format? (Calling Denning, Lowder and Ciecin!)
Surely he is one of the more awe inspiring and evil Gods of the realms? Shouldn't he have like a trilogy about his return? I'm just asking since you have touched upon the subject in Claok & Dagger. And what do you think about the whole "Return of Bane" scenario? One more thing, the character of Scyulla Darkhope in the FRCS is she the same Scyulla in C&D?
No ideas as to why there's no Bane Arisen novel/trilogy, other than the planning for books happens long in advance, so the idea may not have sprung up in time to coordinate a novel with the FRCS release and said changes. <shrug> Who knows? I don't, but I've learned never to say never....
One guess I have is this: There's quite a few books out there about the gods already. Book Department may look at the plot and its potential sales and figure it might be going to the same well too many times. Also, it's not going to be a new story by the time they get to tell it, and that's hardly the best way to position a novel.
Personally, Bane's never done it for me, even back in Grey Box days; still, it's always curious to me that so many people had no comment on Bane whatsoever until he was killed in the Time of Troubles. He was no more or less mentioned than any other god until he was taken off the table and suddenly his fans crop up like crazy. Weird way to build a fan base, dying and all....
For my evil god of choice, I liked the petty, graspy and "kid out to prove himself the big bad" aspects of Xvim; while he was older than Cyric, they were both relatively of the same age god-wise (i.e. you can count their lifespans as gods with less than four digits). I thought it was more interesting personally to pit the two bad boys against each other without ol' Daddy Bane and his followers kicking both of them in the shins from the sidelines. <shrug>
As for how I feel about the return of Bane and the erasure of Xvim in the hierarchy? It introduces some very cool story ideas and opens more options for play and that's great. Like many things, it's probably not what I would have done, if given a vote, but done is done, and it's been fun watching it play out. (My reason for keeping him dead comes from being a comic book fan--I HATE the revolving door on the afterlife, and thus, if we've killed something, let's vow to keep it dead. Either that or start the rumors that the returned Bane is really a severely cheesed-off Bucky Barnes...  )
The BEST thing about Bane's return within a campaign and world is that it actually helps the good guys by keeping the bad guys constantly fighting amongst themselves over who's the worst of the worst, allowing the good guys to shore up defenses.
If I were running a game, I'd seriously think about a subversive group within Bane's religious houses still secretly worshiping Xvim and looking at breeding with and/or summoning demons to recreate the Baneson to challenge Popsie for the power again. Scarier still could be a heretic sect of Xvimlar establishing an alliance with House Dlardrageth and the fey'ri in hopes of gaining power and breeding a god that could dominate elven and human pantheons alike! <insert shudder of evil glee at the sorts of RSEs I could never before think about due to campaign integrity....>
As for Scyulla, she's the same character I believe....
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Yourself, S K Reynolds, D Donovan and E L Boyd did a really, really good job with this product! Its a shame that there aren't many good products like this out in 3E.
I know these are one questions too many, but they do kinda stick out in me head most of the time and would like someone in an esteemed position as yourself tell me whats right and wrong, rather than me being a part of a rumor.
Thank you once again.
No esteemed position here, pal. I'm just a regular guy like most of y'all with hopes that I can get some freelance work here and there, whether it be in short stories, novels, game products, or whatnot. All I wrote above are off-the-cuff opinions and ideas, nothing more or less. Take them with a serious grain of salt and then use them or ignore them as they suit your game campaign....just like you should have done with stuff I wrote when I still was a TSR/WotC staffer.
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
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Posted - 28 Mar 2004 : 00:56:28
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Thank you for that bit of info, Sage Schend! I like the Tel'Teukiira a whole lot more than I like the Harpers... I like the way they're organized, and the fact that not all of the members are good... Oh, and it also helps that Kyriani is a member.
You didn't think I could leave out the oh-so-dishy Ms. Agrivar, did you?
Seriously, one of the best jobs I had my first year or so with TSR was to be the approval guy for the AD&D comic with DC. To this day, I treasure those memories and truly miss the people involved (especially the editor Kim Yale, who passed from this life all too horribly soon). We worked hard on those books, and that's why I worked to keep the characters canonical and within the Realms.
After all, you think it was coincidence that has Kyri in Cloak & Dagger and the rest of the gang in the Tethyr Reclamation?
Steven
Who's first official published work in comic books is the text page stats for the Rattelyr in FORGOTTEN REALMS #24, my favorite issue of all the DC/TSR licensed books |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 28 Mar 2004 : 03:51:39
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Originally posted by Steven Schend
Personally, Bane's never done it for me, even back in Grey Box days; still, it's always curious to me that so many people had no comment on Bane whatsoever until he was killed in the Time of Troubles. He was no more or less mentioned than any other god until he was taken off the table and suddenly his fans crop up like crazy. Weird way to build a fan base, dying and all....
Well, it's been pointed out elsewhere that no one pays attention to deities until they get air-time in a novel...
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For my evil god of choice, I liked the petty, graspy and "kid out to prove himself the big bad" aspects of Xvim; while he was older than Cyric, they were both relatively of the same age god-wise (i.e. you can count their lifespans as gods with less than four digits). I thought it was more interesting personally to pit the two bad boys against each other without ol' Daddy Bane and his followers kicking both of them in the shins from the sidelines. <shrug>
Oh, ditto that! I thought Xvim was a really cool evil deity, and I was disappointed to see that he was just a shell for Bane.
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(My reason for keeping him dead comes from being a comic book fan--I HATE the revolving door on the afterlife, and thus, if we've killed something, let's vow to keep it dead. Either that or start the rumors that the returned Bane is really a severely cheesed-off Bucky Barnes... )
Ah, the Revolving Pearly Gates, as one of my friends termed it. 'Tis part of the reason I gave up on most superhero comics.
Speaking of being a comics fan, what are some of your favorite titles? Some of my current favorites are Rising Stars, Y: The Last Man, Sojourn, and Oh! My Goddess!
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Thank you for that bit of info, Sage Schend! I like the Tel'Teukiira a whole lot more than I like the Harpers... I like the way they're organized, and the fact that not all of the members are good... Oh, and it also helps that Kyriani is a member.
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Originally posted by Steven Schend
You didn't think I could leave out the oh-so-dishy Ms. Agrivar, did you?
Seriously, Kyri was my fave character from both of the titles set in the Realms. Not only have I made a point of compiling all the info I could find on her (even including all the spells she used in the comics), but I've also decided that if I ever get a chance to DM in Waterdeep, the lovely Kyri will be one of the Lords. I think she's a very good candidate for it.
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Originally posted by Steven Schend
Seriously, one of the best jobs I had my first year or so with TSR was to be the approval guy for the AD&D comic with DC. To this day, I treasure those memories and truly miss the people involved (especially the editor Kim Yale, who passed from this life all too horribly soon). We worked hard on those books, and that's why I worked to keep the characters canonical and within the Realms.
After all, you think it was coincidence that has Kyri in Cloak & Dagger and the rest of the gang in the Tethyr Reclamation?
Truly, I had never given much thought to *why* the characters made it into canon sources -- I was just really glad that they did! I enjoyed the comics, so seeing the characters pop up in official references was a really cool thing. Even more cool was them having prominent roles.
Though I still wonder what happened with Onyx and that girl he was in love with...
Kyriani was also mentioned in Powers & Pantheons, on page 157.
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Originally posted by Steven Schend
Steven
Who's first official published work in comic books is the text page stats for the Rattelyr in FORGOTTEN REALMS #24, my favorite issue of all the DC/TSR licensed books
Ah, the issue with Vartan giving a tour around the TSR offices... That was a great one -- especially the pics from the company picnic.
That one and the Lawyers! issue are my personal faves. |
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