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Dargoth
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 Posted - 12 Mar 2004 : 23:11:31
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Rich Baker made a very interesting post in the "Ask Rich Baker thread"
In response to question about what would happan to the material that was cut from PGTF Rich made the following post.
"The only web enhancement I know of is the monster conversion appendix.
Other stuff that was cut out of the Player's Guide included a race chapter, the monster chapter, a couple of prestige classes, and some Vile Darkness-like content (FR-specific fiend lords and elder evils).
The race chapter probably won't come to light, because on examining it again, we realized that it was really pretty redundant with the FRCS and Races of Faerun. The monster chapter will be included in its entirety in an early 2005 product.
At least one of the prestige classes (the Master Transmogrifist) found its way into a 3rd trimester core D&D product, which I can't quite talk about yet. The fiend lords (including Bazim-Gorag) will make it into a mid-2005 FR product.
Serpent Kingdoms is pretty much done with editing. I know the sarrukh are still in it, but I couldn't tell you much otherwise (I haven't seen the developed, drastically cut down to fit, edited manuscript yet)."
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 12 Mar 2004 : 23:50:36
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Ah the Fiend Lords...now that's something I would have liked to have seen. Hopefully this 2005 product will detail all of them, plus a number of new creations...
The Master Transmogrifist sounds interesting too. What more do we know about it...?
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 13 Mar 2004 : 00:07:24
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| Its going to be in the Complete Arcane which comes out later this year |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 13 Mar 2004 : 00:19:30
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Ah, that explains it...
Your post though, made me think of something else. Which is the next class/focus to receive treatment in the Complete [Insert Focus Here] series...?
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 13 Mar 2004 : 00:22:15
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Originally posted by The Sage
Ah, that explains it...
Your post though, made me think of something else. Which is the next class/focus to receive treatment in the Complete [Insert Focus Here] series...?
Complete Divine comes out in May (Which Id assume will focus on Clerics/Paladins/Druids and maybe monks), the next one should be the Complte Arcane which I imagine will be focusing on Wizards and Sorcerors |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 13 Mar 2004 : 00:31:13
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Oh...I already knew that. I was just curious as to what was scheduled beyond Complete Arcane...Although, given what classes the three previous tomes (Fighter, Divine, and Arcane) cover, there's really not that much left...
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2004 : 02:12:19
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 13 Mar 2004 : 04:21:16
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Complete Divine comes out in May
A cover image for this product can be found at the following: http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0786932724.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
In terms of things not making the cut for the Player's Guide, I'm curious as to what product will apparently include the Coronal blades of Myth Drannor that Travis Stout mentioned.
Thanks for posting this news Dargoth. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 13 Mar 2004 : 04:35:50
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Complete Divine comes out in May
A cover image for this product can be found at the following: http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0786932724.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
In terms of things not making the cut for the Player's Guide, I'm curious as to what product will apparently include the Coronal blades of Myth Drannor that Travis Stout mentioned.
Thanks for posting this news Dargoth.
I imagine they will be going into the "Lost Civilizations" source book |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 13 Mar 2004 : 04:48:51
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Originally posted by Dargoth
I imagine they will be going into the "Lost Civilizations" source book
That's my speculation as well unless they are doing something else to tie-in with Richard Baker's novel. Lost Civilizations? Is that the working title? For some reason I keep thinking it's Lost Empires? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2004 : 05:19:05
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quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth
Rich Baker made a very interesting post in the "Ask Rich Baker thread"
In response to question about what would happan to the material that was cut from PGTF Rich made the following post.
"The only web enhancement I know of is the monster conversion appendix.
It's just been released...
Check my PGtF - Monster Update Web Enchancement scroll for further details, and a link...
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 13 Mar 2004 : 05:29:49
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thanks
Ive since spread the joy to FR Gen |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 13 Mar 2004 : 05:32:42
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Dargoth
I imagine they will be going into the "Lost Civilizations" source book
That's my speculation as well unless they are doing something else to tie-in with Richard Baker's novel. Lost Civilizations? Is that the working title? For some reason I keep thinking it's Lost Empires?
Ive seen it called both
Aparently it will feature stuff on Netheril possiably even including a map of Netheril before the Desert spread over the land |
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Emperor Sigismund
"Its good to be the King!"
Mel Brooks |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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5517 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2004 : 15:46:15
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Aparently it will feature stuff on Netheril possiably even including a map of Netheril before the Desert spread over the land
Interesting. I can't wait to see the artwork on this product. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2004 : 07:45:24
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Just what source information are you after on Phalorm or the Kingdom of Man, Sage?
-- George Krashos
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"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2004 : 12:35:47
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Basically anything...
I'm looking for more than the little tidbits that have been mentioned and/or dropped into sourcebooks and adventues from both 2nd and 3rd Edition. It's hard to be more specific, as we have so little to go on...
I think mostly, information pertaining to each of the realms origins and/or early days would be the most helpful. But tell me, why do you ask...?
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crazedventurers
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1073 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2004 : 14:37:23
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Hi George
I remember a while ago on the Realms List you mentioned that your North Timeline was due for an update (something about Eric pointing out 'some' errors....  )- how is it progressing?
cheers
Damian
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Just what source information are you after on Phalorm or the Kingdom of Man, Sage?
-- George Krashos
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So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 22 Mar 2004 : 02:59:30
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I'm hoping to have the revised version done in the next week or so - just found some stuff on Loudwater (Green Regent - WotC website piece) that looks great for inclusion and a bit of minor hole patching. Shouldn't be long now.
-- George Krashos
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 22 Mar 2004 : 03:04:04
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The reason I queried your comment on Phalorm/KoM is that the history, genesis, and dissolution of these realms have been unofficially detailed by myself and Eric Boyd as a "fun" project (I think originally for the FR Encyclopedia thingy). The dates are in my North Timeline, the rationales are in my head and on my PC in note form and you HAVE to get Eric's "Eye of Myrkul" DUNGEON adventure in issue #73. That'll help a bit. If you are interested, drop me aline or wait till my revised North Timeline hits the headlines...
-- George Krashos
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The Sage
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crazedventurers
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1073 Posts |
Posted - 22 Mar 2004 : 22:19:11
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EXCELLENT news George - I was EXTREMELY impressed with it first time around so I am geting excited about the revision.
one assumes that the Talonmists make an appearance?  
cheers
Damian
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Originally posted by George Krashos
I'm hoping to have the revised version done in the next week or so - just found some stuff on Loudwater (Green Regent - WotC website piece) that looks great for inclusion and a bit of minor hole patching. Shouldn't be long now.
-- George Krashos
*who trashed Illusk twice the other day and forgot to re-found it in between!*
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So saith Ed. I've never said he was sane, have I?
Gods, all this writing and he's running a constant fantasy version of Coronation Street in his head, too. .
shudder,
love to all,
THO
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 23 Mar 2004 : 03:12:47
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The Talonmists indeed make an appearance but the details are sketchy. Even Ed didn't have much on these guys!:)
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