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xmaxx
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Posted - 20 Jul 2015 :  19:10:49  Show Profile Send xmaxx a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hi all

(2nd ed.)
In my FR campaign,a halfling Burglar would like to have a pet/familiar.
Is that possible? And how?

Ref. rules?

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A pet is easy. I'm not sure if 2E rules support him having it as a familiar. It can be done with multiclassing, but if I remember correctly, 2E didn't allow for halfling wizards.

Paizo did introduce rules for non-spellcaster familiars, but that's obviously not 2E.

What I would do is create a magical item -- or perhaps linked magical items, one for the person and one for the familiar -- that create something similar to the familiar bond. I'd tweak it a bit, though -- make it similar, but not quite the same thing.

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Posted - 20 Jul 2015 :  22:25:41  Show Profile  Visit Rymac's Homepage Send Rymac a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If the halfling is a high enough leveled thief, then technically the halfling could read a Find Familiar spell scroll.
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A mask with legs. In the spirit of 3.x copycattery, where psionicists had crystals with legs for familiars.

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Even a scroll to Find Familiar would not work IMO. Not counting the chance of error, the spell only helps a Wizard (Magic User) find a familiar. I have not found anything that reading the spell and it works without error that a thief would be able to keep a familiar.

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Artemas Entreri
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I can just picture a cute little puppy barking just as a thief is lifting a priceless jeweled necklace off of a sleeping target...

Of course Aladdin did have Babu.

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quote:
Originally posted by Artemas Entreri

I can just picture a cute little puppy barking just as a thief is lifting a priceless jeweled necklace off of a sleeping target...

Of course Aladdin did have Babu.



A raven or a ferret would be thematically appropriate for a thief, thinks I. Obviously, some animals are less suitable.

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Cats and Catwoman.
Raven would be useful for who takes notice of another bird perched atop a building watching a window? Dog seems a little odd, cant climb and would have to be carried for those rooftop escapes, i like little monkey, used that one myself.
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quote:
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Cats and Catwoman.
Raven would be useful for who takes notice of another bird perched atop a building watching a window? Dog seems a little odd, cant climb and would have to be carried for those rooftop escapes, i like little monkey, used that one myself.



I just picked a dog to use a bad example. Any animal following around a thief could make noise at an inopportune time.

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quote:
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I just picked a dog to use a bad example. Any animal following around a thief could make noise at an inopportune time.



Not a giraffe *G* , though a little had to hide, could make a good ladder.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Saxmilian

Cats and Catwoman.
Raven would be useful for who takes notice of another bird perched atop a building watching a window? Dog seems a little odd, cant climb and would have to be carried for those rooftop escapes, i like little monkey, used that one myself.



I just picked a dog to use a bad example. Any animal following around a thief could make noise at an inopportune time.



Maybe, maybe not. Gelatinous cubes are pretty quiet.

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quote:
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Maybe, maybe not. Gelatinous cubes are pretty quiet.



But they eat every thing they get hold of except metal and gems and you need to kill "pet" in order to get the metal quickly.

"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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quote:
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Maybe, maybe not. Gelatinous cubes are pretty quiet.



But they eat every thing they get hold of except metal and gems and you need to kill "pet" in order to get the metal quickly.



Nah, just have a convenient large sieve handy.

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sleyvas
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without a doubt.... tressym.... or miniaturized griffin

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quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

without a doubt.... tressym.... or miniaturized griffin



Definitely tressym. However, I also like the changecat from Greyhawk Adventures.
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Tressym or griffon seems a bit exotic and rare for your everyday thief.

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quote:
Originally posted by Artemas Entreri

Tressym or griffon seems a bit exotic and rare for your everyday thief.



Tressym are somewhat common in some places; as I recall, Eveningstar is one of them.

As for miniature griffons, in one of my long-ago Hooks, I had someone use the spell Duhlark's Animerge, from the City of Splendors boxed set, to make miniature griffons. They were a cross between falcons and housecats, and wound up breeding true. I have since dubbed these "falcats."

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Drustan Dwnhaedan
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How about a miniature giant space hamster? I understand they also give great advice on many subjects.
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quote:
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How about a miniature giant space hamster? I understand they also give great advice on many subjects.





Sadly, hamsters are not the most nimble of critters, and that may not be desirable for a rogue-type.

Hamsters are often quite adorable, though.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Sadly, hamsters are not the most nimble of critters, and that may not be desirable for a rogue-type.

Hamsters are often quite adorable, though.



Ferrets can be adorable. As a pet/familiar/animal companion they are "class appropriate."
Other options could be raccoon, maybe even a skunk. A trained skunk could use its musk as a deterrent if the thief was caught in the act and needed the diversion for escaping. Even the hounds that might be deployed wouldn't chase after a skunk.
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Maybe a displacer beast kitten, or a blink dog.

It could teleport in and out of places that the halfling couldn't break in to.

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