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Wooly Rupert
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Barnes & Noble. The only other new bookstore in the Melbourne area is Books-A-Million, and not only is it way out of my way, but I've never been impressed with their selection. I usually forget about that store's existence.

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dbassingthwaite
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Originally posted by Valondil the Ranger

Anyway, I'm only about thirty pages in but I'm really enjoying it. Tycho (is it pronounced Teecho or with a long I?) is a great character and Li sure is mysterious, though I found it kind of stereotypical (for lack of better word) to name him Li because he's an oriental from Shou Lung.



T-long i-k-o. Just like the astronomer actually.

Li's name - I feel confident in making up fantasy names that sound more or less European in a number of flavours, but less confident in Asian names, so I'd be more conservative (and thus more realistic) in naming Shou characters. I also took my guide from published products. When in Shou...

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Lord Rad
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Well I ensured I finished the novel I was reading yesterday before the year ended. So thats The Coral Kingdom done. I must say I quite enjoyed it, not quite as much as Prophet of Moonshae but it came close. I'm quite eager to read The Druid Queen now which I hope is just as good as the previous two. Any opinions?

I'm pleasantly surprised at the Druidhome Trilogy, I have put it off for many years but am coming to the latter part of my FR reading backlog and it is one of the last few trilogies I have yet to read. To date, I highly recommend it.

As to whether I start it over the next few days depends on if The Rite appears in the stores

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Valdar Oakensong
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Amazon can't get The Rite until the end of the month for some reason Rad. If you find somewhere that can get it sooner please let me know.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 01 Jan 2005 :  15:55:51  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
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Originally posted by Lord Rad

Well I ensured I finished the novel I was reading yesterday before the year ended. So thats The Coral Kingdom done. I must say I quite enjoyed it, not quite as much as Prophet of Moonshae but it came close. I'm quite eager to read The Druid Queen now which I hope is just as good as the previous two. Any opinions?

I'm pleasantly surprised at the Druidhome Trilogy, I have put it off for many years but am coming to the latter part of my FR reading backlog and it is one of the last few trilogies I have yet to read. To date, I highly recommend it.


While the Druidhome trilogy was orders of magnitude better than the Moonshae trilogy, I still wasn't overly impressed with it. It's not bad, but it's not one I'd readily recommend to people.

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As to whether I start it over the next few days depends on if The Rite appears in the stores



I'm going to be watching my local bookstore to see when The Rite comes in.

I just finished a non-Realms book yesterday (wow, was it good! But don't let Big Al know... ) and started on Venom's Taste. I've had the book for a few months, but this was my first time sitting down to read it. When The Rite comes out, I'll reread The Rage before I get to it.

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Xysma
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I've been trying to get caught up on my "Realms Reading" the kast few months have been study, study, study for my algebra courses. (I had forgotten most of what I learned in high school, but that was 13 years ago.) Anyway, in the few weeks I've had to get caught up, I have read Shadow's Witness, Twilight falling, Dawn of Night, The Rite, Mistress of Night, Faces of Deception, and I have started Soldiers of Ice (a friend of my went nuts over it) but gave it up to read Spellfire.
All of the Erevis Cale books are great, Cale is such a cool character, and Jak plays a wonderful role as Cale's conscience. Rarely have I ever read a character I loved to hate more than Drasek Riven. I wanted Cale to kill him so badly, then I started to really love the guy, then came Mr. Kemp's punch in the kidneys (I'll say no more for those who haven't read it) Way to go Paul! You got me good.
The Rite was a great middle chapter in the Year of Rogue Dragons series. The characters are coming along, but they seem to be devloping slowly, probably due to the multitude of main characters in the book. I did like seeing more of Raryn, he was interesting, but (I felt) largely ignored in The Rage. Dorn is an interesting character, he's almost an outward manifestation of his inner turmoil. I'd like to see that aspect of him examined more closely. Dorn and his band of dragon hunters could definitely have carried a novel on their own, without all of the subplots and supporting characters.
Faces of Deception was quickly becoming one of my favorites until it ended, and I mean it ended. It just ended, it wasn't finished, it didn't tie up any loose ends, there was no happy ending, there was no sad ending, it just ended. Bollocks.
Mistress of Night, good read. I loved Keph and Feena, and Keph's family was cool. I like the idea of a family of wizards who aren't crazy.

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Lord Rad
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Well I didn't quite enjoy The Druid Queen as much as the first two novels in the trilogy. It felt quite bland in comparison. One thing that really grated on me was the number of times it was mentioned (either as a descriptive or as dialog), that flame is needed to completely kill trolls! ARGH! The mechanics were repeated over and over. Overall, it's a great trilogy, I love the Moonshaes and it's sad to think that i'll never read of them again

I read The Rite also, which I also enjoyed, not as much as The Rage, as I felt it a bit less epic and didn't feature the chaos and overall impact like the first novel did. There are some very nice scenes and some great areas in the story, I won't go into them here as i've commented on them in the specific thread. Looking forward to The Ruin, nevertheless!!

I then went on to read Tymora's Luck, on a recommendation of Wooly Rupert. Excellent!! I loved all the previous Finder's books, loved Finder's Bane and this is the perfect follow up. Although very little is spent in the Realms, it's a very nice story and plenty of atmosphere. Again, sad to know that no more will I read of these characters A collected novel of all three Finder's Stone novels, Masquerades, Finder's Bane and Tymora's Luck has worked its way to the top 3 of my wish list

I'm now reading All Shadows Fled. Contains the kind of stuff I like of the Realms.... the Dalelands, the Zhentarim (in force!!), rangers... as usual, it's crammed with Ed's detail and dialog, and i'm enjoying the novel and the feeling of depth that it gives. Hopefully a great end to a great trilogy.

Afterwhich, i'm going to be a little stumped as to what to tackle next, so i'll be seeking advice soon as i'm nearing the end of my FR novel reading backlog.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Rad

I then went on to read Tymora's Luck, on a recommendation of Wooly Rupert. Excellent!! I loved all the previous Finder's books, loved Finder's Bane and this is the perfect follow up. Although very little is spent in the Realms, it's a very nice story and plenty of atmosphere. Again, sad to know that no more will I read of these characters A collected novel of all three Finder's Stone novels, Masquerades, Finder's Bane and Tymora's Luck has worked its way to the top 3 of my wish list



I'm glad you enjoyed it. The Novak-Grubb stuff has always ranked highly among my favorites.

And while I know not of any plans for that wonderful writing duo to return, I've not seen anything to indicate they won't. There were some serious spans of time betwixt some of their other books, so maybe we'll luck out in a year or two and see those two return with some familiar faces.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 05 Feb 2005 :  03:13:21  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
so maybe we'll luck out in a year or two and see those two return with some familiar faces.



I highly doubt it unless there is some change in the current editorial stance of new over old characters for FR books.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 05 Feb 2005 :  05:00:12  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
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so maybe we'll luck out in a year or two and see those two return with some familiar faces.



I highly doubt it unless there is some change in the current editorial stance of new over old characters for FR books.



Well, Joel and Holly were new characters... Emilo was intro'ed in the second book. Jasmine was an old character, but one that had never been in a novel... Skipping the interludes leaves you with only one character from their previous books.

So maybe we won't see too many familiar faces, but we still need to get that writing duo back in the Realms. I hold Jeff Grubb in high esteem, much higher than a lot of the current Realms writers.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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I think "old characters" means "characters from the 2nd edition generation of novels", though, Wooly. I'm sad about it, myself--I like many of the new novels, but I miss a lot of favorite old characters as well (such as the ones from Tymora's Luck, in fact).

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Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

I think "old characters" means "characters from the 2nd edition generation of novels", though, Wooly. I'm sad about it, myself--I like many of the new novels, but I miss a lot of favorite old characters as well (such as the ones from Tymora's Luck, in fact).



As do I... I'd love to see more of certain characters, particularly ones by Novak and Grubb. Cat and Giogionni Wyvernspur remain among my all-time Realms faves.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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In all truth, I was impressed by how realistic and human Novak and Grubb made their heroes. :)

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SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
As do I... I'd love to see more of certain characters, particularly ones by Novak and Grubb. Cat and Giogionni Wyvernspur remain among my all-time Realms faves.



Authors appear to like them as well. If I recall correctly the Wyvernspurs were in one or more of the Cormyr novels.
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Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
As do I... I'd love to see more of certain characters, particularly ones by Novak and Grubb. Cat and Giogionni Wyvernspur remain among my all-time Realms faves.



Authors appear to like them as well. If I recall correctly the Wyvernspurs were in one or more of the Cormyr novels.



I hate to break it to you, but I think that Cormyr: A Novel was the only one they were in. And that was co-written by Jeff Grubb.

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Kajehase
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
As do I... I'd love to see more of certain characters, particularly ones by Novak and Grubb. Cat and Giogionni Wyvernspur remain among my all-time Realms faves.



Authors appear to like them as well. If I recall correctly the Wyvernspurs were in one or more of the Cormyr novels.



I hate to break it to you, but I think that Cormyr: A Novel was the only one they were in. And that was co-written by Jeff Grubb.



I'm pretty sure Giogionni appears in a non-speaking part in a "council-scene" in at least one of the two following books. Something about him taking command of a group of soldiers meant to stop and attempts by Sembia to come in and "protect" the part of Cormyr bordering Sembia.

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Originally posted by Kajehase
I'm pretty sure Giogionni appears in a non-speaking part in a "council-scene" in at least one of the two following books. Something about him taking command of a group of soldiers meant to stop and attempts by Sembia to come in and "protect" the part of Cormyr bordering Sembia.



That sounds vaguely familiar. I'll have to check the two novels when I get a chance to try and find this scene.
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Lord Rad
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Well I finished All Shadows Fled, so that wraps up that trilogy. I prefered the first book in the trilogy, the second book was ok, and the third book started off very well but felt it lost it a little towards the end. Nevertheless, still a good trilogy overall and crammed with Realms flavor.

I then went on to read.... ::cowers from Alaundo:: City of Towers, the first book in the Dreaming Dark series for Eberron. This started off with a good introduction to the setting, but the plot was poor and I struggled to get through the novel. Too many irrelevant scenes, chapters were only 3 pages long in many cases. I don't rate it at all. Anyway, enough about that other world...

I'm now reading The Lost Library of Cormanthyr, which is great so far (about 50% through). I'll then go on to read the other three novels in the series between the new releases over the next few months.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Rad

Well I finished All Shadows Fled, so that wraps up that trilogy. I prefered the first book in the trilogy, the second book was ok, and the third book started off very well but felt it lost it a little towards the end. Nevertheless, still a good trilogy overall and crammed with Realms flavor.


I enjoyed that trilogy, myself. It was neat seeing Elminster deal without magic (at least in the first book), and I enjoy the way Ed writes the Realms.

quote:
I then went on to read.... ::cowers from Alaundo:: City of Towers, the first book in the Dreaming Dark series for Eberron. This started off with a good introduction to the setting, but the plot was poor and I struggled to get through the novel. Too many irrelevant scenes, chapters were only 3 pages long in many cases. I don't rate it at all. Anyway, enough about that other world...





*hopes Alaudo doesn't mind more Eberron novel comments*

I thought the plot was quite good, actually, and the noir feel of the setting was definitely there. It was a fast moving book, and I enjoyed reading about the plights of the main characters. On the other hand, there were a few Interlude scenes that I just didn't understand, even after I finished the book.

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Anyway, enough about that other world...



To paraphrase a witty bard..."There are other gaming worlds?"
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quote:
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Anyway, enough about that other world...



To paraphrase a witty bard..."There are other gaming worlds?"



Well met

Quite right, Mr Black... there is nothing to see beyond Toril, nothing at all, move along...move along.

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Quite right, Mr Black... there is nothing to see beyond Toril, nothing at all, move along...move along.



Um, Big Al, are you forgetting the instances in established Realmslore where there is some contact with other worlds?

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quote:
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Quite right, Mr Black... there is nothing to see beyond Toril, nothing at all, move along...move along.



Um, Big Al, are you forgetting the instances in established Realmslore where there is some contact with other worlds?



Or the other planets of Realmspace. :) Hey they are in the FRCS! :)

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I just finished reading the Finder's Stone trilogy for the first time, and it has taken its place high on my list of favorites. I agree with Wooly that Cat and Giogioni are both wonderful characters, but I must say that Olive beat them out for my absolute favorite. She's wonderful, I find myself just waiting to see what she does next. I am now a huge fan of Kate Novak and Jeff Grubb, what else should I read?

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I just finished reading the Finder's Stone trilogy for the first time, and it has taken its place high on my list of favorites. I agree with Wooly that Cat and Giogioni are both wonderful characters, but I must say that Olive beat them out for my absolute favorite. She's wonderful, I find myself just waiting to see what she does next. I am now a huge fan of Kate Novak and Jeff Grubb, what else should I read?



Without a doubt, you should go on to read:

Masquerades
Finder's Bane
Tymora's Luck


All three are fantastic books (the latter not set very much in the Realms but continues with the characters from Finder's Bane).

I'd be interested to hear your views on these after you've read them

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Without a doubt, you should go on to read:

Masquerades
Finder's Bane
Tymora's Luck


All three are fantastic books (the latter not set very much in the Realms but continues with the characters from Finder's Bane).

I'd be interested to hear your views on these after you've read them



Indeed. The latter two, in particular, are among my fave Realms novels.

And Masquerades is my fave of the books about Alias.

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From the thread I started, I'm currently reading Viper's Kiss. Anyone reading the WOTSQ novels again in anticipation of the series' final novel coming out next month?
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From the thread I started, I'm currently reading Viper's Kiss. Anyone reading the WOTSQ novels again in anticipation of the series' final novel coming out next month?



I've not read a one of them yet. I'm waiting for the entire lot to be out in paperback.

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quote:
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From the thread I started, I'm currently reading Viper's Kiss. Anyone reading the WOTSQ novels again in anticipation of the series' final novel coming out next month?



I've not read a one of them yet. I'm waiting for the entire lot to be out in paperback.



You're very patient.

So far I've only read the first two books. I'll start up on the series again after I've finished some of the other unread books in my pile. I've rather drowed-out at the moment.

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I just picked up a copy of Condemnation used at an outlet store on Sunday. Excellent condition, and I payed less for it than for a paperback copy. All said and done, I will wait for the final book to come out before I attempt to read through this series. I'm looking forward to it since I like all of the recent books from all of the authors. Before that I'll have to tackle some books about some guy named Erevis or somesuch. Of course that's after Matt Forbeck's novel set in one of those other worlds (which we are discussing at Strahd's place this month if you're interested!).

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