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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 13 May 2015 : 00:45:09
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That's not my lore. It's Ed's, from one of his threads in the Chamber of Sages. I wish I could come up with stuff that good!
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"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 13 May 2015 : 03:48:54
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kysus,
More confused about . . .?
As for your second question: those are ancient elven family tombs, from "way back when." (Before the FIRST fall of Myth Drannor. So, guarded by their baelnorn throughout the time of rampaging demons and devils in Myth Drannor (a chaos first glimpsed in Ed's 1987 Realms novel SPELLFIRE.) So far as I know, no new baelnorn were created during the Spellplague years, anywhere.
I hope this helps.
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 13 May 2015 : 03:59:46
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Hi again, all. Yes, I'm back from a lengthy Net-silent real-world work assignment, and bringing you the words of Ed of the Greenwood once more...
Byte Man, re. this: "Hail, and Well Met!
Never having done this before, mainly because I always felt asking Ed anything would be presuming on a friendship that only exists in my head, I wanted to start with something simple Therefore, my inquiry to Master Ed of the Greenwood is as follows:
"Ever since the 2nd Edition FRCS box set, I have beenaware of a certain demigoddess named Sharess, the Lady of Lust and cats. I was facinated at this goddess, and the life she led, particularly as more of her backstory came to light. My question is, are there any plans for her to play a bigger role in the Realms, or is she doomed to forever be a servant of the Firehair?"
Heeeere's Ed:
Byte Man, by all means ask me anything. There are things I can't answer because of NDAs or because I just don't know, but any fan of the Realms is a friend of mine! Ask away!
And in this case, I can answer you: *I* certainly have plans to have Sharess play a larger role, but over the years some editors have been uneasy regarding Loviatar, Sharess, and the other "sexy" or sex-related deities, and have quite rightly taken the approach that we should spotlight and detail naughty things that could offend some fans (and buyers) only when there are good STORY reasons for doing so. And we just haven't been telling stories that took us closer to Sharess. Yet.
Will my plans bear any fruit? That's where I have to hand you one of those "I just don't know" answers. Or non-answers.
Of course, you COULD attend the next Spin A Yarn and make very sure that Sharess lore becomes a crucial story element . . .
So saith Ed. And there you have it. Want me to try to nudge Ed into sharing anything from his old notes, regarding Sharess? I can be pretty persuasive when I want to . . .
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 13 May 2015 : 04:08:18
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And there's more . . .
This time, Ed replies to Marco Volo, re. this: "Hi, My players asked me a tricky question at the end of a game session :
"We are in Waterdeep, we have some gold bar and mithral bar, there must be some kind of real world banks in this town to deposit them, right ?"
And I was like : "I have to check my files". And Ed, THO, you're my "files" in this case. Thanks in advance for sharing any kind of answer about the existence of banks (or sort of) in Waterdeep and how do they worked.
Regards,
MV"
And Ed saith:
Hi, Marco Volo. All temples in the Realms, and in Waterdeep that includes The Plinth and the new Temple of Waukeen in particular, have always functioned as banks. There are also independent (non-guilded) moneylenders (Mirt was the most famous of them, but he's been away from Waterdeep for nigh a century, or not, depending on when your Realms campaign is set) in the city, who also function as moneychangers and money storers (in other words, as bankers). So does the Palace, using Castle Waterdeep as their treasury vaults (and many people trust them more than any other source). Certain landlords in the city also "play banker," because it helps with cash flow problems.
I hope this is of help. Let me know if you need more.
And there you have it. Ed's ride to the lore rescue is belated because of me, I'm afraid. I'll try not to be so silent for so long again, but the nature of my work sometimes means I have to be, without much warning.
love,
THO
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Gary Dallison
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 13 May 2015 : 16:11:48
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Hello again.
dazzlerdal, here's Ed's reply:
Dwarvenhome was known to the dwarves as Ahrrune.
(from: runedar = haven, home for all and ahrraem = all-kin, meaning the race of dwarves)
. . . and it follows that dwarves referred to themselves formally (as a race) as Ahrraem.
A less formal, daily "we" or "dwarves" (meaning: a group of dwarves that wasn't all one clan or family, or a group assembled for a specific purpose like a warband or a shift in a mine) is "Ahra" (as in, "ahra always drink from the higher spring," or "ahra prefer that ale to the weak human stuff")
So saith Ed, and there you have it. 
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 13 May 2015 : 18:20:18
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
Hello again.
dazzlerdal, here's Ed's reply:
Dwarvenhome was known to the dwarves as Ahrrune.
(from: runedar = haven, home for all and ahrraem = all-kin, meaning the race of dwarves)
. . . and it follows that dwarves referred to themselves formally (as a race) as Ahrraem.
A less formal, daily "we" or "dwarves" (meaning: a group of dwarves that wasn't all one clan or family, or a group assembled for a specific purpose like a warband or a shift in a mine) is "Ahra" (as in, "ahra always drink from the higher spring," or "ahra prefer that ale to the weak human stuff")
So saith Ed, and there you have it.
love,
THO
Thanks Ed and THO. Love that dwarf lore.
Given Ed's response, what then are the words/terms for "dwarf" (singular), "clan" and "ruling house" (like the Iron House of Tethyamar). Oh, and if Ed's feeling generous, what are the dwarven words for "elf"/"elves", "human"/"humans", "gnome"/"gnomes" and "halfling"/"halflings"?
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 13 May 2015 : 21:18:42
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Hi, George. Dwarf, singular is "arl"
(I know that one off the top of my head, but for answering your others I'll need Ed or to find older notes of mine, and both are out of reach at the moment. So, more later...)
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 14 May 2015 : 16:31:45
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Hi again, all. George, Ed has come through. Here are your dwarvish queries:
Clan: ddin
Dwarf: arl
Elf: elgon
Elves (group): elgonnyn
Elves (race): gonnynd
Gnome: del
Gnomes (group): deldal
Gnomes (race): delvar
Halfling: thim
Halflings (group): thimdal
Halflings (race): orthim
Human: tahl
Humans (group): tahln
Humans (race): oumtahl
Ruling House: ostoan
So saith Ed. And there you have it!
love,
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 14 May 2015 : 17:34:02
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On a related note, do dwarves have a general, catchall term for non-dwarves? Something similar to the elven N'Tel'Quess?
And how about dwarven profanity? |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 15 May 2015 : 01:34:24
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
On a related note, do dwarves have a general, catchall term for non-dwarves? Something similar to the elven N'Tel'Quess?
And how about dwarven profanity?
Ed in his "Forging the Realms" article "Outcast House" gave the term "thaelwi" for non-dwarves.
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 15 May 2015 : 01:37:39
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Hi again, all. George, Ed has come through. Here are your dwarvish queries:
Clan: ddin
Dwarf: arl
Elf: elgon
Elves (group): elgonnyn
Elves (race): gonnynd
Gnome: del
Gnomes (group): deldal
Gnomes (race): delvar
Halfling: thim
Halflings (group): thimdal
Halflings (race): orthim
Human: tahl
Humans (group): tahln
Humans (race): oumtahl
Ruling House: ostoan
So saith Ed. And there you have it!
love,
THO
Glorious lore. My dwarven lexicon runneth over. As a thanks I'll have to finish crafting some realmslore tonight and send it through to Ed.
And thank you THO. As always, you deliver the good stuff. One day, I'm going to have to meet you. I don't suppose that you could take some vacation time around GENCON 2017 and pop in to visit ...?
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"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
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MalariaMoon
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 16 May 2015 : 07:39:42
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Hi Ed and THO,
I wonder if the 1st ed. norkers were ever a part of the Realms? If yes, then where would you be most likely to encounter them?
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BenN
Senior Scribe
Japan
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Posted - 16 May 2015 : 08:15:40
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Hi, BenN, I've tracked down an e-mail from Ed in which he says:
Narya survived, too, sorely wounded, but is under care in Semberholme and expected to survive; the right spells and treatment should replace the right forearm she lost in the fighting.
So saith Ed. And no, Narya isn't, so far as Ed or I know, mentioned in other published Realmslore, but I do know Ed has jotted down something of her story and past dealings with the Delcastles, because that same e-mail mentioned her as one of "half a dozen" elves not of prominent rank, influence, or published Realms profile that Ed "follows" in his imagination to chart the general tenor of the elves in that region (their rises, falls, attitudes, etc.). It might currently be NDA, but I've forwarded your query to him in hopes that it isn't, and you'll get a useful reply.
love,
THO
Dear THO,
I just wanted to follow-up on the conversation we had back in February (above). Is there any additional info which isn't under NDA? If you/Ed can provide any info about the other "half a dozen" elves that Ed tracks, it would also be incredibly useful (in providing depth & background flavour).
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Gary Dallison
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 19 May 2015 : 14:56:51
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Bear in mind that Beshaba herself was only 'created' right around the time the Bedine showed up - she used to be half of Tyche, when Netheril was still in power.
Which just made me think of something, but I'll post that in the other thread.
Question:
Ed, do you having anything interesting to share - something FR-related that you might be working on? A 'tease' to keep us all going awhile longer? |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1600 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2015 : 16:43:28
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Dear Ed,
Can you give us any detail about the lost elven realm of Askavar? I know it was dissolved about the 500s DR, but when was it founded? Who were its founders? Any details on the number of cities or settlements, and the kingdom's culture, religion, magic schools, defenses, would be welcome. |
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Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
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Duneth Despana
Learned Scribe
Belgium
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Posted - 20 May 2015 : 19:34:44
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Originally posted by Barastir
Dear Ed,
Can you give us any detail about the lost elven realm of Askavar? I know it was dissolved about the 500s DR, but when was it founded? Who were its founders? Any details on the number of cities or settlements, and the kingdom's culture, religion, magic schools, defenses, would be welcome.
+1 on this.
Back in December 2014 I asked this :
'Is there more to be said about Askavar the elven realm that used to be in the wood of the sharp teeth (or Glimmerwood as it used to be called)? What are it's ties (if any) to Shantel Othreier, Firewine Bridge and/or Vehlarr, Thanks in advance!'
but the scroll soon got locked because of the end of the year so it might have gone missed.
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« There is no overriding « epic » in the Realms, but rather a large number of stories, adventures, and encounters going on all the time. [...]. Each creative mind adds to the base, creating, defining, and making their contribution to the rich diversity of the Realms. [...]. But Ed built the stage upon which all the plays are presented. Thanks Ed. » -FR Comic no.1
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Duneth Despana
Learned Scribe
Belgium
273 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2015 : 19:42:17
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I note this passage from Dragon #222 about elves in the Wood of the Sharp Teeth:
'The Wood of the Sharp Teeth:
Recently, a small group of green elves
(about 50) has broken off from the tribe in
the Misty Forest and headed into the
Wood of Sharp Teeth near Baldur's Gate.
It seems there was an argument between
Speaker Eamond and Derdryl, an older
and much sterner elf, about courting the
favors of humans. The last report from
the Derdryl's group said that they had
made a temporary pact with a tribe of
satyrs and were continuing to forage deep
into the woods. Derdryl, it seems, is
obsessed in finding the ancient elven
empire of Anauria [[should this actually be Askavar*]] . He has used the argument
between himself and Eamond to
gather a group to explore the unknown
reaches of the Sharp Teeth. What he
expects to find is up to speculation. The
ruins of that fabled empire are old even
by elven standards, and it would appear
that Derdryl is leading his group on a
wild, and very dangerous, goose chase.' |
« There is no overriding « epic » in the Realms, but rather a large number of stories, adventures, and encounters going on all the time. [...]. Each creative mind adds to the base, creating, defining, and making their contribution to the rich diversity of the Realms. [...]. But Ed built the stage upon which all the plays are presented. Thanks Ed. » -FR Comic no.1
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Azuth
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 23 May 2015 : 02:53:51
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Fellow Sages and Ed/THO,
I have tried (in vain) to see if I can find a scroll herein that discusses the impact/meaning of naming a mortal after a god. I've tried to determine how Torm (of the Knights of Myth Drannor) came to share a name with a deity, specifically a reply from Ed. However, and unfortunately, applying every kind of magic I know in searching, I still get every post that has the word "Storm" in it, and get over a thousand results. So, without further ado, my questions are:
How did Torm of the Knights come to share the name of a god, and what are the ramifications in doing so? Would a parent name a child after a god and why might he or she do so? Would a mortal be foolish, wise, or have no problems whatsoever by taking on a god's name as his or her own?
It would seem to me that if a deity has the ability to "hear" X seconds of speech within the time its name is spoken, it would be foolish to name one's self or a baby after any deity. Zealots not withstanding, it just seems very foolish, and I'm curious specifically about Torm.
Many thanks,
Azuth |
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 23 May 2015 : 03:02:24
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That has been asked and answered before, actually, and Ed said that many, many mortals in the Realms are named after gods - -but that to Dispel Confusion, TSR cut back on "same names" in the published Realms (Ed's original Realms had both a demon and a devil named Ashtaroth, so if you were VERY careful in wording your summoning, the "wrong" one would show up, NOT under your control!).
Torm was one of the few exceptions because the character was a member of the Knights.
So it would follow that many parents do name their children after deities.
However, perhaps your post will nudge Ed or THO into saying something more on this . . .
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TBeholder
Great Reader
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Posted - 23 May 2015 : 09:03:42
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quote:
Originally posted by Azuth
I have tried (in vain) to see if I can find a scroll herein
Forum search is almost useless (it's something quaint over M$derp IIS, as you can see from error messages every time it starts drooling). My method is simple: download SSE collection, put it next to those free downloads, then use find|pdfgrep). 
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that discusses the impact/meaning of naming a mortal after a god. I've tried to determine how Torm (of the Knights of Myth Drannor) came to share a name with a deity, specifically a reply from Ed.
Partially answered at 30 Mar 2005.
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Eli the Tanner
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 24 May 2015 : 22:59:28
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| Just wanted to wish Ed and his wife well and to say that his presence at GenCon will be greatly missed this year but that he is undoubtedly, precisely where he needs be. If Ed or the Greenwood family need anything then the community is here to help. Rest easy Sage. |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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Posted - 26 May 2015 : 20:51:21
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Originally posted by Eli the Tanner
Just wanted to wish Ed and his wife well and to say that his presence at GenCon will be greatly missed this year but that he is undoubtedly, precisely where he needs be. If Ed or the Greenwood family need anything then the community is here to help. Rest easy Sage.
Dunno what's going on, but whatever it is, I wish the best for Ed and his wife. Can't do much from Brazil, but you can count on my prayers. |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
(by Ed Greenwood) |
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
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Posted - 26 May 2015 : 22:37:41
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| Yeah, I've already posted it in the other scroll, but this is saddening to hear. All the best to both of them. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 27 May 2015 : 14:23:13
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Which thread/scroll would that be?
Sending love and prayers for you and yours, Ed. |
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
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Posted - 27 May 2015 : 15:07:14
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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
Which thread/scroll would that be?
Sending love and prayers for you and yours, Ed.
This one: http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19907 |
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Duneth Despana
Learned Scribe
Belgium
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Posted - 28 May 2015 : 11:43:04
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quote:
Originally posted by Eli the Tanner
Just wanted to wish Ed and his wife well and to say that his presence at GenCon will be greatly missed this year but that he is undoubtedly, precisely where he needs be. If Ed or the Greenwood family need anything then the community is here to help. Rest easy Sage.
I (as, I suspect, everybody here at the 'Keep) wish the Greenwoods all the courage in the world. |
« There is no overriding « epic » in the Realms, but rather a large number of stories, adventures, and encounters going on all the time. [...]. Each creative mind adds to the base, creating, defining, and making their contribution to the rich diversity of the Realms. [...]. But Ed built the stage upon which all the plays are presented. Thanks Ed. » -FR Comic no.1
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