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Brother Ezra
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 Posted - 01 Mar 2004 : 05:24:09
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Maybe a silly question, but does anyone know if there is a resource that will give longitude and latitude for Realms locations? I'm trying to create weather for my Damara campaign, and want to get an idea of the latitude to choose the appropriate climate type.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 02 Mar 2004 : 12:47:22
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Other than the 'old' FR Atlas, I don't think such a resource actually exists. Maybe you should try working up a Latitude/Longitude system of your own for the world of Toril. It's not really that difficult, I've done it many times for most of the worlds I've created in the past.
The internet offers a number of exciting and useful sites that can help you with your own system, and the 'American Geological Society' has a number of interesting online packages you can use as 'teaching' tools.
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Brother Ezra
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 02 Mar 2004 : 14:19:17
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| Thanks Sage. I was afraid that would be the answer. I hoped that someone already did the work, and all I would have to do is click a few buttons. Oh well...(rolls sleeves up and cracks knuckles) |
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The Sage
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 02 Mar 2004 : 15:06:20
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Does this help at all? Taken from the FAQ here on Candlekeep.....
3.6. Where is Toril's equator?
Looking at the map in F&A, we can see that the equator runs through the southern part of Maztica (just below the published map), through the northern portion of Zakhara, and through the southern reaches of Kara-Tur. It falls a little south of Nimbral (I think that's Nimbral) and well south of Chult.
Abeir-Toril, according to every published source, is roughly equivalent in size to Earth. However, part of what determines the size of the tropics and the intensity of the seasons is whether or not it has the same axial tilt. Since there are very definite summers and winters, I'd say the axial tilt is the same or perhaps even a little greater (23.5-25 degrees, as a ballpark guess).
Note also, from the same map, that even including Maztica we've only seen about a third of the surface area of Toril. There's a LOT of room for more lands to explore, to the west of Maztica and/or the east of Kara-Tur (as well as to the south of everything). |
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lowtech
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 02 Mar 2004 : 18:32:55
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| I wouldn't depend too much on lines of lattitude and longitude, anyway. The climates of many realms are probably a geological impossibility, but this can be explained away with the caveat that climatic sciences are far from exact, and the presence of magic complicates things further. As far as Damara and Vaasa are concerned, I think the former is similar to Sweden and the latter is similar to Lapland. The magic glacier to the north covers up the truly Siberian landscapes. |
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Brother Ezra
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 03 Mar 2004 : 22:10:44
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Originally posted by kuje31
Does this help at all? Taken from the FAQ here on Candlekeep.....
Abeir-Toril, according to every published source, is roughly equivalent in size to Earth. However, part of what determines the size of the tropics and the intensity of the seasons is whether or not it has the same axial tilt. Since there are very definite summers and winters, I'd say the axial tilt is the same or perhaps even a little greater (23.5-25 degrees, as a ballpark guess).
Yes, this does help a lot. I agree that Toril's axial tilt is probably a little bigger than Earth's (I'd agree around 24-25 degrees)based on the severity and duration of winter in the northern latitudes. Knowing where the equator is will help a lot. Thanks. |
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Brother Ezra
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 03 Mar 2004 : 22:14:22
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Originally posted by lowtech
I wouldn't depend too much on lines of lattitude and longitude, anyway. The climates of many realms are probably a geological impossibility, but this can be explained away with the caveat that climatic sciences are far from exact, and the presence of magic complicates things further. As far as Damara and Vaasa are concerned, I think the former is similar to Sweden and the latter is similar to Lapland. The magic glacier to the north covers up the truly Siberian landscapes.
Or possibly Norway. Since this site abounds with Norwegians, would any of you care to give me an idea of summer and winter temperature ranges, both in the north and south of Norway (or Sweden). I think that it would serve as a good template for Vaasa and Damara. |
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Odysseus
Seeker
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Posted - 20 Jun 2004 : 22:17:00
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| The way I worked it out is that Waterdeep is 46 degree north, and each degree is 69 miles, and measured the distances from Waterdeep. |
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Darkheyr
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 21 Jun 2004 : 06:07:08
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Well, last time I experienced a finnish winter, we had -5 to -20 degrees during the day... And I was told that was a "warm" winter ^^
Ever had to wait for 20mins at -20 deg C for a bus? :P |
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Arivia
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Jun 2004 : 06:28:14
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Originally posted by Darkheyr
Well, last time I experienced a finnish winter, we had -5 to -20 degrees during the day... And I was told that was a "warm" winter ^^
Ever had to wait for 20mins at -20 deg C for a bus? :P
An hour in -32 C, full out blizzard. God, that was a bad day. |
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Lashan
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 22 Jun 2004 : 03:30:47
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| Don't forget to think about which map you will use. There have been great descrepancies between the various versions of the world. |
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Lysander
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 23 Jun 2004 : 20:19:07
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Originally posted by Lashan
Don't forget to think about which map you will use. There have been great descrepancies between the various versions of the world.
The biggest discrepancies in mapping I've seen is comparing the AD&D maps to the #.X offerings, though once you move south of Cormyr or east of the Dalelands, the mapping does start playing a little loose (but not as much as the TSR/WOTC divide)
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Brother Ezra
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 30 Dec 2004 : 13:12:00
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For those of you interested in the geography of the Realms, Jerry Davis just posted an interesting article to the Realms-L mailing list that derives the circumference, axial tilt and overall density of Toril using the FR Interactive Atlas and standard mathmatical formulae, and assigns latitude and longitude positions for several major Realms cities using the information produced. Right now I can't find the link to the Realms-L archive, so if anyone can find the link to the article and post it, I would appreciate it.
There's some nice flavor that can be derived from the information presented, such as time zone differences in the realms (Waterdeep is about 1 hour behind Suzail, for example). His results indicate that Toril is actually about 13% larger than Earth in diameter, and it's axial tilt is more severe than ours (roughly 29 degrees), producing more pronounced seasons and larger polar ice caps.
He does qualify the article by saying that the information presented is based on the maps available in the Forgotten Realms Interactive Atlas, and therefore is valid for the geography presented pre-third edition, before the maps of the Realms were redrawn. |
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Jerryd
Acolyte
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Brother Ezra
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 31 Dec 2004 : 14:03:05
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| Thanks Jerryd. Your web-fu is strong. |
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