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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 08 Mar 2004 :  18:06:11  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bookwyrm

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Blast! My wand of comprehend languages ran out of charges again!





Oh! They were speaking one of the FR languages. I thought their keyboards had just gotten stuck.
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 08 Mar 2004 :  18:27:39  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, I figure it can't be Klingon, or Alaundo would be down on them like a bad spell . . .

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The Cardinal
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Posted - 08 Mar 2004 :  18:41:07  Show Profile  Visit The Cardinal's Homepage Send The Cardinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So Bookwyrm you wish to comprehend? Have we ever told you of the great glory there is in serving Lolth?

Ulu kla'ath l' orbb valsharess, gaer zhah nau mzild ib'ahalii taga nindel.

What is this Cling-on you speak of?


It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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Shadowlord
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Posted - 09 Mar 2004 :  00:42:42  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dos ph'jal waela! Vel'drav L'Orbdrinus Senger g'jahallen dosst quar'valsharess, dos zhal ortelanth nindel dos tangis' inbal natha mayar whol dro'xundus!

I spit upon you, Spider-Kissers!

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"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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The Cardinal
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Posted - 09 Mar 2004 :  02:01:48  Show Profile  Visit The Cardinal's Homepage Send The Cardinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ol zhah numl nindel udos xal uss tangi tlu morfel ulu elgg dos.
There is still a chance to beg for Lolth's forgiveness.


It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
-Unknown
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Shadowlord
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Posted - 10 Mar 2004 :  00:15:27  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Never!

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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The Cardinal
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Posted - 10 Mar 2004 :  02:30:24  Show Profile  Visit The Cardinal's Homepage Send The Cardinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As shame... Well thou art warned
May we never be called upon to collect thy head


It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
-Unknown
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The Sage
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Ah, I can't help but notice that this scroll has fallen off-topic, just a little...

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The Cardinal
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Posted - 10 Mar 2004 :  03:08:42  Show Profile  Visit The Cardinal's Homepage Send The Cardinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Alas, it twas a simple questions and recived simple answers. The letter of the question is compleated (Bonus points if that is recognised). Lolth would not out right hate a surface follower. That was our question, we thought maybe as such but better to ask those wiser than us... Well there is tis then


It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
-Unknown
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darkflame millithor
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Posted - 14 May 2006 :  23:18:52  Show Profile  Visit darkflame millithor's Homepage Send darkflame millithor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Even though the thread is old ,I find that I Like both The Cardinal and Mikayla a whole lot.
they both are worthy contemporaries,but some of us don't keep the drow dictionary with us all the time.Your dialogue is lovely but please try to stick to the barbaric,coarse language of the Rivil(iblith) so that other less fluent drow can be graced with your immaculent,Lolth-blessed words. I look forward to reading more from the chosen poeple like myself.

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darkflame millithor
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Posted - 14 May 2006 :  23:25:21  Show Profile  Visit darkflame millithor's Homepage Send darkflame millithor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh ,by the way as much as we'd hate to hear it the DarkMother secretly wants the worship of the traitors(perhaps to inlighten the savages).
She would not be adverse to their worship,especially the wretched golds.Just to spite The Golden Idiot that had the nerve to attempt to banish her! Take note Lolth is nolonger banished to the abyss,She is Rizen!

purge all weakness in the cleanzing flame of
rightousness.tear down the false idols of love,compassion,and self-sacrifice.down with the tyranny of the seldarine
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AlacLuin
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Posted - 15 May 2006 :  00:02:57  Show Profile  Visit AlacLuin's Homepage Send AlacLuin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I haven't seen this mentioned in this thread yet, but of note.

There are Gold elves cultists that worship Moandar in Cormanthor, near the body of the dead god.
Well, Lolth is pretending to be Moandar and (presumably) grants spells in Moandar's name.
So, Lolth does have sun elven worshipers.
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Drakul
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Posted - 15 May 2006 :  00:52:04  Show Profile Send Drakul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mikayla is a regular from Menzoberranzan.net. All in all, just another spider kisser. Vhaeraun will flush out those who are unworthy of him and accomplish his goal.

However, in the FRCS there is no mention of her having Moander's Portfolio. So, she does not have Sun Elves that venerate her (Moander). There is also no mention of such info in Faiths & Pantheons. If the info that AlacLuin is accurate, can we get a reliable source posted on here??

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Kuje
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Posted - 15 May 2006 :  01:33:15  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Drakul

Mikayla is a regular from Menzoberranzan.net. All in all, just another spider kisser. Vhaeraun will flush out those who are unworthy of him and accomplish his goal.

However, in the FRCS there is no mention of her having Moander's Portfolio. So, she does not have Sun Elves that venerate her (Moander). There is also no mention of such info in Faiths & Pantheons. If the info that AlacLuin is accurate, can we get a reliable source posted on here??



Demihuman Deities. One of her alias's is now Moander and same book, "Lolth has assumed the Darkbringer's aspect and portfolio of rotting death, decay, and corruption and revived its cult in a bit to add elven, half-elven, and human worshippers to the ranks of her faithful."

So there you have it. Always reference the 2e trilogy since F&P is a pale shadow of them. :)

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darkflame millithor
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Posted - 15 May 2006 :  04:04:54  Show Profile  Visit darkflame millithor's Homepage Send darkflame millithor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I thought Finder Wyvernspur was still contesting her for Moander's portfolio. If he is she'll no doubt Eat him and get the portfolio anyway like she ate zinzarina "the sandwich".

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Arivia
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Posted - 15 May 2006 :  04:16:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by darkflame millithor

Oh ,by the way as much as we'd hate to hear it the DarkMother secretly wants the worship of the traitors(perhaps to inlighten the savages).
She would not be adverse to their worship,especially the wretched golds.Just to spite The Golden Idiot that had the nerve to attempt to banish her! Take note Lolth is nolonger banished to the abyss,She is Rizen!



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Edited by - Arivia on 15 May 2006 04:16:26
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warlockco
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Posted - 15 May 2006 :  09:11:44  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by darkflame millithor

I thought Finder Wyvernspur was still contesting her for Moander's portfolio. If he is she'll no doubt Eat him and get the portfolio anyway like she ate zinzarina "the sandwich".



She has assumed his Idenity, not his power. Kinda like Set and Sseth.

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Drakul
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Posted - 15 May 2006 :  09:58:42  Show Profile Send Drakul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kuje is correct. Lolth did indeed assume Moander's Portfolio. I looked it up on my computer.

quote:
With the death of Moander,
always a more comprehensible (and tempting) force of evil to
the nature-loving surface elves than the Spider Queen, Lolth
has assumed the Darkbringer's aspect and portfolio of rotting
death, decay, and corruption and revived its cult in a bid to add
elven, half-elven, and human worshipers to the ranks of her
faithful.


Though, it seems funny that she would have Moander's Portfolio rather than Kiransalee (SP??).

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Kuje
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Posted - 15 May 2006 :  17:42:06  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Drakul

Kuje is correct. Lolth did indeed assume Moander's Portfolio. I looked it up on my computer.

quote:
With the death of Moander,
always a more comprehensible (and tempting) force of evil to
the nature-loving surface elves than the Spider Queen, Lolth
has assumed the Darkbringer's aspect and portfolio of rotting
death, decay, and corruption and revived its cult in a bid to add
elven, half-elven, and human worshipers to the ranks of her
faithful.


Though, it seems funny that she would have Moander's Portfolio rather than Kiransalee (SP??).



I dunno, maybe Kiransalee was to busy being worried that Orcus would kick her arse. :)

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Eremite
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Posted - 15 May 2006 :  19:25:59  Show Profile  Visit Eremite's Homepage Send Eremite a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My next campaign is going to have Lolth making a major push to convert the surface elves to her worship using Moander as her "front man/thing". It's high time she made some in-roads in the World Above and I think the Eldreth Veluuthra are a ready band of recruits (particularly as I won't touch the retcon from Champions of Ruin where druids and rangers can draw their spells from nature itself).

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 15 May 2006 :  19:48:55  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Then again Eremite, you can have Lolth/Moander granting power to Lossarwyn, and having him present this power as the power of nature to the rest of the Eldreth Veluuthra. Ironic and fitting (although back when we discussed this most of the scribes thought someone like Ghaunadaur might be a better alternative for a divine patron of "nature" worshipping Eldreth Veluuthra).

That older discussion can be found here:



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Eremite
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Posted - 16 May 2006 :  04:35:06  Show Profile  Visit Eremite's Homepage Send Eremite a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually, KnightErrantJR, that's what I'm doing. A lot of the EV don't know it's Moander but they know that they have some strange rituals to perform in order to prepare their spells.

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AlacLuin
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Posted - 17 May 2006 :  17:02:43  Show Profile  Visit AlacLuin's Homepage Send AlacLuin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Drakul
However, in the FRCS there is no mention of her having Moander's Portfolio. So, she does not have Sun Elves that venerate her (Moander). There is also no mention of such info in Faiths & Pantheons. If the info that AlacLuin is accurate, can we get a reliable source posted on here??


Faiths & Pantheons pg 40, History/Relationships
<snip>,since the Time of Trubles, to masqurade as Moandar <snip>

Sure, she may not yet have the portfolio, yet, but gaining worshipers that pray to her may just grant her that portfolio.

Maybe finally gaining this portfolio is what gave her the power to seperate her realm, nevermind

I think this shows that Lolth will grant spells to a sun elf, even if she only sees these sun elves as tools. (dubble meaning?)
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Kuje
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Posted - 17 May 2006 :  17:21:43  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AlacLuin

quote:
Originally posted by Drakul
However, in the FRCS there is no mention of her having Moander's Portfolio. So, she does not have Sun Elves that venerate her (Moander). There is also no mention of such info in Faiths & Pantheons. If the info that AlacLuin is accurate, can we get a reliable source posted on here??


Faiths & Pantheons pg 40, History/Relationships
<snip>,since the Time of Trubles, to masqurade as Moandar <snip>

Sure, she may not yet have the portfolio, yet, but gaining worshipers that pray to her may just grant her that portfolio.

Maybe finally gaining this portfolio is what gave her the power to seperate her realm, nevermind

I think this shows that Lolth will grant spells to a sun elf, even if she only sees these sun elves as tools. (dubble meaning?)



Actually, as I said above, she does have some of Old Moldies portfolios and Finder got some of the others.

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AlacLuin
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Posted - 17 May 2006 :  17:42:17  Show Profile  Visit AlacLuin's Homepage Send AlacLuin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ok, I was mostly pointing to that a mention is in F&P.
The rest of my post was just... well.... "extra" anyway.
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