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SirUrza
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Posted - 13 Oct 2014 :  04:09:31  Show Profile Send SirUrza a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Is there any info on the going rates of pleasurelasses in the Realms?

I'd accept Pathfinder/Golarion reference as well.

Not really interested in a certain d20 book. ;)

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Well Ed has spoke a little about coin girls, however what they get paid clearly depends on the time period and location. Also how legal it is in its location. There is also the question of time requested and type of pleasure desired. Some things certainly will cost more then others.

There also could be competition based on the pleasurelasses admiring customers. Some might be paid 1,000 gp per day, however I suspect that many might earn as low as 1 gold a day.

The very unskilled or oppressed might be paid less then that.

Edited Typos.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by SirUrza

Is there any info on the going rates of pleasurelasses in the Realms?

I'd accept Pathfinder/Golarion reference as well.

Not really interested in a certain d20 book. ;)



Why would you not be interested in a book that has a table addressing the very question you are asking?

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SirUrza
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Why would you not be interested in a book that has a table addressing the very question you are asking?



I have said book and I'd prefer to see a Realms/Pathfinder source first.

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quote:
Originally posted by SirUrza

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Why would you not be interested in a book that has a table addressing the very question you are asking?



I have said book and I'd prefer to see a Realms/Pathfinder source first.



Fair enough.

I don't think the topic has come up, in Pathfinder... As for the Realms, some of the Volo's Guides mention prices at specific establishments, but those are more like high-class escorts than simple boldshakes (to use one of Ed's terms).

You're not going to find much beyond that in published Realmslore; TSR was afraid to go there, and at least during 3E, WotC wouldn't go there if it wasn't a Prestige Class.

The prices in the aforementioned book seem reasonable to me, if a little low, and going with that chart may be your best bet.

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Kentinal
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quote:
Originally posted by SirUrza

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Why would you not be interested in a book that has a table addressing the very question you are asking?



I have said book and I'd prefer to see a Realms/Pathfinder source first.



Well as you expanded to Pathfinder you are talking about core rules.

The answer then is simple, that also ignores logic.

Unskilled earn one s.p. a day

Skilled (Profession or Craft - your option) earn set gold pieces based of the skill rank, modified (if any) by stat. and plus a d20 roll, that sum divided in half for a week of dedicated work. It might be up to you what is considered dedicated work a week for a pleasurelasses. If you decide less then a normal work week modify lower.

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"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Cards77
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quote:
Originally posted by Kentinal

quote:
Originally posted by SirUrza

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Why would you not be interested in a book that has a table addressing the very question you are asking?



I have said book and I'd prefer to see a Realms/Pathfinder source first.



Well as you expanded to Pathfinder you are talking about core rules.

The answer then is simple, that also ignores logic.

Unskilled earn one s.p. a day

Skilled (Profession or Craft - your option) earn set gold pieces based of the skill rank, modified (if any) by stat. and plus a d20 roll, that sum divided in half for a week of dedicated work. It might be up to you what is considered dedicated work a week for a pleasurelasses. If you decide less then a normal work week modify lower.



Yeah I don't think the core rules really work here. They are not craftsman during a raw material into a tangible crafted good with a use and a demand based on it's value and usefulness. Neither are they unskilled laborers as their "skill" is not equal within the field. IE if I hire someone to chop wood, I'm not looking for just a CERTAIN type of wood chopper, I just need my wood chopped.

They don't seem to fit any of those. I would treat them as a special profession, as they need not even perform full time.

Just as with modern day strippers and others, they can work for relatively few hours in a night, and earn a wage TOTALLY disproportionate to their skill and/or time spent.

Such professions can easily earn $1,000/day even for part time work.

A total guess would be easily 5-20 gp/day-night.

With as Whooley mentioned, girls in demand as high dollar escorts could easily earn up to 10 or 20 times that in a night.

In game terms...to balance this out with say a player, I would institute all sorts of problems that go along with this line of work.

Weird demands from clients, violence, drug addiction, robbery, threats from significant others, political intrigue, etc.

Remember, at least in a normal medieval sense these professions are not protected by a guild of any kind, except perhaps an organized crime association.
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sleyvas
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not wood chopper..... wood worker.... chopping the wood is bad.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

not wood chopper..... wood worker.... chopping the wood is bad.




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Ayrik
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Ye olde AD&D (1E) Dungeon Masters Guide has a very entertaining table for generating random street encounters with various quantities and qualities of prostitutes. One needs to be able to read High Gygaxian to make much sense of certain parts, however.

Most commoners (in the AD&D eras, anyhow) basically earned about 1 silver pay day (or night), regardless of their occupation. Skilled workers could certainly earn several silvers, even gold.

Early FR novels sometimes (well, very rarely) had characters interact with prostitutes, coins changed hands but the services being purchased always involved information or spying. It seems that the royal sum of about 1d4+1 silver pieces will purchase all sorts of invaluable information about certain persons, and contributing an extra gold piece (upon completion of the transaction) will almost certainly guarantee complete silence:

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Cards77
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quote:
Originally posted by Ayrik

Ye olde AD&D (1E) Dungeon Masters Guide has a very entertaining table for generating random street encounters with various quantities and qualities of prostitutes. One needs to be able to read High Gygaxian to make much sense of certain parts, however.

Most commoners (in the AD&D eras, anyhow) basically earned about 1 silver pay day (or night), regardless of their occupation. Skilled workers could certainly earn several silvers, even gold.

Early FR novels sometimes (well, very rarely) had characters interact with prostitutes, coins changed hands but the services being purchased always involved information or spying. It seems that the royal sum of about 1d4+1 silver pieces will purchase all sorts of invaluable information about certain persons, and contributing an extra gold piece (upon completion of the transaction) will almost certainly guarantee complete silence:



And that may hold true for your common low born street urchin looking to sell her goods. However, I'm sure we've all seen high class "escorts" portrayed in numerous sources. I doubt they do ANYTHING for a sum so cheap.
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Kyrel
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This is one of those situations where finding a "realistic" price, is pretty damned hard, because looking at D&D pricing at a whole, generally doesn't make much sense, from en economic point of view. Expecially when you involve magic in the mix.

If a tradesman is supposed to be earning something along the lines of 1-5 silver per day, depending on skill, I would argue that based on that, a quick shag with a cheap streetwalker might be as cheap as a Copper, whereas some beautiful, exotic, highly skilled lady in high demand with very rich people might be able to charge hundreds, if not thousands, of Gold for an equivalent amount of time. Also, bear in mind that IRL location, demand and supply, and the general economy and resulting price level also plays a huge part. In some places a few dollars will buy you an hours worth of fun with an average pro, and in other places a similar experience will easily set you back 400USD or more. And then you are not taking the effects of the particular service asked, into effect. There is a difference between the asking price for something that is being offered by everyone, and something that is being offered by only 1-2 people in a given area.

But at the end of the day, the D&D economy is a mess, when seen as a whole.
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