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AuldDragon
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Posted - 01 Nov 2021 : 05:00:21
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P'kk the Dominator: https://bit.ly/3EO5R3t
The last of the neogi deities, P'kk the Dominator is the god of neogi captains, who control their crew and captives through tyrannical fear. It is the only member of the neogi pantheon to live in Baator, the Nine Hells, but it keeps a close eye on its brethren, watching for any weaknesses it can exploit. It is also the only member of the pantheon to have a form other than that of most neogi, as it favors a form that merges the head of a neogi with the body of an umber hulk.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 01 Dec 2021 : 06:02:08
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Diinkarazan, the Mad God: https://bit.ly/3pivLWG
The second of the Derro Twins, banished from the Morndinsamman for their crimes, is Diinkarazan, the Mad God. Betrayed by his brother and imprisoned by Ilsensine, he has been driven mad by the hallucinations inflicted by the mind flayer god. However, he gains lucidity periodically, but not for long enough to effect his freedom.
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My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 01 Dec 2021 : 13:37:59
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quote: Originally posted by AuldDragon
Diinkarazan, the Mad God: https://bit.ly/3pivLWG
The second of the Derro Twins, banished from the Morndinsamman for their crimes, is Diinkarazan, the Mad God. Betrayed by his brother and imprisoned by Ilsensine, he has been driven mad by the hallucinations inflicted by the mind flayer god. However, he gains lucidity periodically, but not for long enough to effect his freedom.
Jeff
Its like you read my mind when I suddenly become interested in specific deities and then write something more about them.
Out of curiosity... the handprint on Oerth.. yours or actually in something? |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 01 Dec 2021 : 20:28:00
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quote: Originally posted by sleyvas Out of curiosity... the handprint on Oerth.. yours or actually in something?
That's from the campaign adventure "Night Below;" even though it isn't formally set in Greyhawk, it's typically assumed to be "best placed" there, so I went with it since Haranshire (the surface land) doesn't have enough details to place it in its own sphere.
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My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 01 Jan 2022 : 06:16:49
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Tapann the Undying: https://bit.ly/3zmugeL
Originating in The Ecology of the Korred by Ed Greenwood (Dragon #119), Tapann is referenced occasionally in Forgotten Realms material as the god of korreds of the High Forest. Similar to Damh (and merged with him in later material), he is an interesting sylvan power outside of the Seelie Court, and represents an active force in the preservation of korred life and lands.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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Baltas
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Poland
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Posted - 01 Jan 2022 : 12:17:08
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Another great article! Though I wonder, was Tapann in some official publication directly combined/identified with Damh, or did Damh (and latter Hysram) just take aspects of Tapann in later editions (and theorized by fans they are the same, like on the Greyhawk wiki)? |
Edited by - Baltas on 01 Jan 2022 12:21:58 |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 01 Jan 2022 : 16:46:04
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quote: Originally posted by Baltas
Another great article! Though I wonder, was Tapann in some official publication directly combined/identified with Damh, or did Damh (and latter Hysram) just take aspects of Tapann in later editions (and theorized by fans they are the same, like on the Greyhawk wiki)?
I may have misread something. I didn't make any mention of it in the article, though.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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Baltas
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Poland
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Posted - 01 Jan 2022 : 17:58:34
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Ok. And don't worry, that sometimes happens. |
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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore
1847 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jan 2022 : 07:18:16
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So how many more before I can buy a complete pdf from you? Or, rather, buy you a $50 coffee? |
I have a dream that one day, all game worlds will exist as one. |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
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574 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jan 2022 : 17:04:14
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quote: Originally posted by The Arcanamach
So how many more before I can buy a complete pdf from you? Or, rather, buy you a $50 coffee?
I do hope to get some compiled PDFs at some point, especially with nice art assets (if anyone knows of artists doing 2e-style artwork, feel free to ping me!); it will probably wait until the end since I'm going to need to do some editing passes on the entries, especially the older ones. :)
If you want to support the project now, there are links for the Patreon and my Ko-Fi pinned on the blog. :)
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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AuldDragon
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574 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2022 : 19:22:52
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Mellifleur the Lich-Lord: https://bit.ly/34oq2I0
The sweet-sounding but dire Lich-Lord Mellifleur is the god of liches, elevated to godhood through a cosmic accident. Due to the circumstances of his elevation, he acts against the villainous deity, or deities, whose power he inadvertently stole, and as such he occasionally can be an ally to some good powers.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
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11846 Posts |
Posted - 02 Feb 2022 : 12:48:43
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quote: Originally posted by AuldDragon
Mellifleur the Lich-Lord: https://bit.ly/34oq2I0
The sweet-sounding but dire Lich-Lord Mellifleur is the god of liches, elevated to godhood through a cosmic accident. Due to the circumstances of his elevation, he acts against the villainous deity, or deities, whose power he inadvertently stole, and as such he occasionally can be an ally to some good powers.
Jeff
Love it. It works similar to many of my theories of Velsharoon having used Mellifleur's phylactery, and I've liked the idea that he was a split personality vying for control for a while now, as it covers the part where he was rumored to be working with Shar, Mystra, and Talos. One thing I had thought about over time was to have it be that after his initial accident, he experimented with other mages on other worlds, leaking the process he used to them while also setting up another god to create a lich priest. That way it doesn't have to be done "all at once". Each mage would create a new phylactery, and thus what Velsharoon does is different... using a phylactery that's already been linked to "the Mellifleur collective" gives him a bit more control of the process. Doing this, you could introduce Mellifleur to a world by having a wizard seeking to perform the process, etc... and maybe the party needs to stop it.
I know you're writing for pre-spellplague era, but I've increasingly grown fond of the idea that during the spellplague, Velsharoon went to Abeir along with his Tower Terrible in the city of Soorenar (a city that "sank" as a result of the spellplague, so I picture part of the city going to Abeir). Thus, the "Velsharoon" that would have stayed behind may very well have been Mellifleur, enjoying the power that Velsharoon had garnered in such a short time by keeping his name. |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
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AuldDragon
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Posted - 02 Feb 2022 : 20:19:53
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I was thinking more "conjoined twin" rather than "split personality" in part because Mellifleur is far more powerful; Velsharoon would be subsumed IMO. I chose the divine phylactery because that means one cannot destroy the other without destroying themselves too.
Overall, I was really happy with how it came out. Lots of good adventure hooks for a planar campaign. :D
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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LordofBones
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 06 Feb 2022 : 03:07:15
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What's Mellifleur's general opinion on the other powers of undeath, like Kanchelsis? What of the Falazure connection?
Also, speaking of planar adventures and Mellifleur, here's something you might be interested in: https://forums.giantitp.com/showsinglepost.php?p=24116472&postcount=962
Scroll down to the Lord of the Last Shroud. |
Edited by - LordofBones on 06 Feb 2022 03:08:55 |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 06 Feb 2022 : 03:15:01
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quote: Originally posted by LordofBones
What's Mellifleur's general opinion on the other powers of undeath, like Kanchelsis? What of the Falazure connection?
To an extent, I don't think he cares about other deities of undeath, unless they're trying to poach his portfolios. Like a lot of liches, I see him very much as interested in magic first and foremost.
I'd actually forgotten I put that element into Faluzure's entry. :D That said, I wouldn't confirm it one way or the other, so it would just be a reiteration of the same thing. It's more of a plot hook for DMs to use or disregard if they want to since it ultimately doesn't matter. :)
At some point I will need to go back through all the entries and see if any of my thinking has changed, or if there was anything I missed, like that. :)
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 01 Mar 2022 : 18:10:31
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Kirith Sotheril the Magess: https://bit.ly/3HxwKcP
The next member of the younger generation of elven deities originally published in Dragon Magazine #155 (and updated in #236), Kirith Sotheril specializes in the subtle magics of divination and enchantment magic, and represents the piercing of illusions and lies to reveal the truth. She is seen as a bright, enchanting lady who favors scintillating colors and magical lights as well.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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AuldDragon
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Posted - 01 Apr 2022 : 06:47:52
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Cryonax the Prince of Evil Ice: https://bit.ly/3uKZdr9
While not a true deity, Cryonax and the other archomentals cultivate small followings to further their ambitions against their enemies on the Inner Planes. The cults are small as yet, but may grow with time. As only uniquely powerful near-powers, the archomentals can only grant up to 3rd level spells to their followers on the Prime Material Plane, unless they appear in person.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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AuldDragon
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Posted - 01 May 2022 : 06:57:39
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Juiblex the Faceless Lord: https://bit.ly/3LALnP9
Another of the Tanar’ri lords elevated to godhood, Juiblex is the Demon Prince of Ooze. Patron of aboleths and intelligent amorphs, the Slime Lord has inscrutable and unknown goals, keeping mainly to itself and not even participating in the politics of the Abyss. On the Prime Material Plane, it is also favored by insane cultists or those desiring power.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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Baltas
Senior Scribe
Poland
955 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2022 : 12:59:14
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Great write-up of Juiblex. It's nice to see an ambiguity of Zuggtmoy's and Juiblex' relationship, referencing both versions of how their interractions were described.
There is no mention of Juiblex being subordinate to the Elder Elemental God, though I get it's in part due to to Juiblex' hostile relationship with Ghaunadaur - who while a separate being, is probably related to EEG.
You probably also know it, but there was recdntly brought up some interesting ideas about an obscure Orcish deity - Merrgsh: http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24389 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1466174664?t=0h48m41s |
Edited by - Baltas on 01 May 2022 13:03:42 |
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2022 : 22:33:08
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quote: Originally posted by ericlboyd
I found an obscure one for you. Really obscure.
http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24389
Indeed, I saw that thread! Took me some time to find when the contest entry was published (Polyhedron #58 for anyone looking). Definitely going to get it as a late addition to the project. I meant to leave a comment, but I had some personal things come up right after that and it slipped my mind. I greatly appreciate it!
And I see I missed the PDF on the Canonfire Discord. Glad I went back to look!
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 01 May 2022 : 22:51:48
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quote: Originally posted by Baltas
Great write-up of Juiblex. It's nice to see an ambiguity of Zuggtmoy's and Juiblex' relationship, referencing both versions of how their interractions were described.
Yeah, since there was conflicting information, with later material making it clear they are foes and early material indicating a possible alliance, it seemed to make sense to make it unclear but also indicate that Zuggtmoy's imprisonment could have made Juiblex see an opportunity.
quote: Originally posted by Baltas
There is no mention of Juiblex being subordinate to the Elder Elemental God, though I get it's in part due to to Juiblex' hostile relationship with Ghaunadaur - who while a separate being, is probably related to EEG.
Yeah, given that Juiblex is a tanar'ri and the Elder Elemental God is an elemental being, it didn't make much sense to me. Plus there was nothing about that in 2e so far as I could find. :)
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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Baltas
Senior Scribe
Poland
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Posted - 11 May 2022 : 20:01:41
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quote: Originally posted by AuldDragon
Yeah, given that Juiblex is a tanar'ri and the Elder Elemental God is an elemental being, it didn't make much sense to me. Plus there was nothing about that in 2e so far as I could find. :)
Jeff
Well, I think it is supposed to connect to the idea the Inner Planes preadated the Outer Planes and even the Material Plane suggested in 2E and 3E.
It's possible Juiblex was originally an elemental creature that became a demon - note: the language in Monster Mythology about Juiblex as perhaps not exactly a Tanar'ri ("Juiblex appears to be an entity related to the most powerful of the tanar'ri"; "Believed to be related to tanar'ri,"). And that was the Elder Elemental Gods servant through that.
Though it's also possible Juiblex was to be what became the Obyriths in 3E (ie Gygaxian novels proto-demons).
Still, it wasn't really used beyond that (well in 2E and 3E - Pathfinder made Juiblex ("Jubilex"), and 4E (as a corrupted elemental creature).
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To be clear, I know you don't find 4E or Pathfinder lore to be useful, but I thought it was interesting to mention. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 12 May 2022 : 11:02:35
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quote: Originally posted by Baltas
Still, it wasn't really used beyond that (well in 2E and 3E - Pathfinder made Juiblex ("Jubilex"), and 4E (as a corrupted elemental creature).
I thought the name was Jubilex for a long time. I find it easier to say than Juiblex. |
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Baltas
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Poland
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Posted - 12 May 2022 : 19:43:42
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Me too I think the Jubilex spelling an intentional tribute from Paizo, along a way to refernce the Faceless Lord.
- Also, I forgot to write, but I meant Paizo has Jubilex/Juiblex as a Qliphoth (Obyrith equivalent). |
Edited by - Baltas on 12 May 2022 21:54:42 |
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LordofBones
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 13 May 2022 : 14:53:47
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To be fair, it could just be that Juiblex doesn't actually look tanar'ric; he's a giant ooze, while other tanar'ri either look animalistic or vaguely humanoid.
Then again, it also begs the question of what's his relation to Bwimb and his daughter. |
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Baltas
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Poland
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Posted - 13 May 2022 : 16:53:44
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^ Maybe...but seeing Juilbex asociation with the Elder Elemental God in the same source thar describes him as such, is at least very curious.
With Bwimb and his daughter (also kinda reincarnation?), I think they might be the same kind of thing what Juilblex originally was. Bwimb was a fearsome general of the Queen of Chaos, as well despite being an ozze elemental being (between water and earth) also has a connection to the cult of the Black Flame, suggesting also an interesting conection the Elemental Plane of Fire, suggesting he was more than he seemed.
I would guess if we go with the elemental origins theory, it's possible Juiblex and Bwimb both were (intended as in 2E) (possibly Chaotic) Elemental beings of the same or similar kind, alied with the Queen of Chaos against the Wind Dukes of Aqaa, but also serving another, greater master (the EEG), who possibly supported the Queen of Chaos, at least at that time. Bwimb stayed in the Inner Planes and (seemingly?) moved away from Chaos, while Juiblex stayed in the Abyss, and overtime became a Demon Prince.
It's probable Bwimb and Juiblex were connected to the Oozes of genius intellect that worshipped the EEG (and Ghaunadaur) in ages past. |
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LordofBones
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 19 May 2022 : 01:27:28
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All the military credentials in the world can't help the fact that Bwimb's name sounds like a Captain Planet villain's. |
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AuldDragon
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Posted - 19 May 2022 : 06:17:07
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quote: Originally posted by LordofBones
All the military credentials in the world can't help the fact that Bwimb's name sounds like a Captain Planet villain's.
I mean, the Lord of Smoke is Ehkahk, which is onomatopoeia for a cough and Cryonax has "cold" in his name. :) |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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AuldDragon
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Posted - 01 Jul 2022 : 06:16:35
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Mythrien Sarath, the Watcher over Mythals: https://bit.ly/3NterII
An older elven power, but one who has lost much of his status, Mythrien Sarath is the power who oversees mythal magic, abjurations, and protection. With his lone avatar trapped on the Prime Material Plane after a botched ritual to restore his loss of standing, he now broods in his castle in Arvandor.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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