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sleyvas
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 Posted - 18 Feb 2019 : 22:56:59
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AuldDragon...are you aware of any of the deities mentioned in this article? I'm not 100% sure what/where it's from but it is from a file I have on Thar and I'm pretty sure I acquired it from Dazzlerdal. Anyway, here it is:
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“Very well”, the leucrotta said at last. “You people think we’re animals, don’t you? By now you know that we’re far more. We “leucrotta”, as you call us, do have some unique ways of looking at the world. We see through the eyes of the Pack, and the Pack guides us”.
“The Pack?” I asked.
“Yes. They are our; what’s your word of it?, our gods”.
That the leucrotta are intelligent was a revelation. That they worship a previously unknown pantheon of gods and goddesses was nothing short of unbelievable.
According to Olaf, the leucrotta worship a group of archetypal predators known as the Pack. This Pack is led, not surprisingly, by the great leucrotta, Toknana. The Pack ranges across the plains of the Abyss, preying upon the tanar’ri, sending prey animals to deserving leucrotta, and defending the species against its enemies.
Toknana is assisted by a number of other archetypal creatures, such as Hruba the Chimera, Ylarria the Red Dragon, and Voal the Hydra. In addition, numerous leucrotta, chosen from the finest and most cunning hunters on Faerûn, also run with Toknana across the Abyss, and are sometimes dispatched to the Prime Material Plane to assist mortal leucrotta if they are threatened or need new tricks to help them deceive and capture prey.
The heroic example of Toknana and his Pack, who fear nothing and hunt even the most powerful of prey, form the basis of the leucrotta’s world view.
They have been awarded the world as their hunting ground, and those who prove the most dangerous and resourceful (which in the leucrotta’s mind also means “most deceitful”) will be united with Toknana in a land where they can hunt without fear of death or reprisal.
Awesome find... I'd go possibly another path and have them not be gods, but rather "primal spirits" of some monster types like a primordial (Kezef the Chaos Hound is a primordial, so is Dendar the Night Serpent). Possibly they were somehow enhanced magically. Maybe they're akin to "vestiges" and what happens is a leucrotta can "bind" Toknana to himself and get some non-standard binder abilities.... but maybe he only binds to leucrotta, etc... and when he does the leucrotta in question grows exceptionally large and dangerous. |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
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AuldDragon
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Posted - 01 Mar 2019 : 19:21:21
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Chitza-Atlan, the Guardian of the Gateway to the Underworld: http://bit.ly/2NCr5HT
The most unusual centaur deity is Chitza-Atlan, an interloping undead deity who is said to guard the passage to the underworld and the afterlife. Little is known of his origins, but he has connections with the lord and lady of the dead, Mictlantecuhtli and Mictanchihuatl, and is known to the Olman peoples of Oerth.
Jeff |
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AuldDragon
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Posted - 01 Apr 2019 : 05:41:38
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Demogorgon, the Prince of Demons: http://bit.ly/2V7sVn3
Powerful enough to claim the title of Prince of Demons, Demogorgon is a foul lord of of the Abyss who has achieved true divinity. Favoring the intelligent shallow-water rays known as ixitxachitl, he focuses on domination and the draining of life energy from victims in order to increase his own power.
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AuldDragon
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Posted - 01 May 2019 : 07:29:04
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Eshebala the Vixen Queen: http://bit.ly/2LoZOLw
As Queen of the Foxwomen, Eshebala embodies the same vain and shallow obsession with beauty and material wealth found in that lycanthropic race. She has a decidedly cruel streak as well, and seeks to destroy things and creatures she has n further use for, or that which she cannot acquire.
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LordofBones
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Posted - 01 May 2019 : 08:15:01
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AuldDragon
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Posted - 01 May 2019 : 17:08:52
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Originally posted by LordofBones
Given the antics of the most infamous real-life kitsune, would it be accurate to add the Japanese and Vedic pantheons to Eshebala's list of foes? After all, Tamamo-no-Mae menaced Japan, India and China.
I don't know any references to fox spirits in Hindu mythology, but I definitely could have missed it. If you have a source I'd definitely be interested in reading about it. I didn't list any members of the Japanese pantheon in part because she doesn't really actively do much other than pamper herself and take things for herself. There's not really much conflict there. The reason I added the Celestial Bureaucracy is because her she is disrupting orderly operations by essentially stealing agents who have jobs to do, even if minor.
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
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Posted - 01 May 2019 : 22:44:51
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Originally posted by AuldDragon
Eshebala the Vixen Queen: http://bit.ly/2LoZOLw
As Queen of the Foxwomen, Eshebala embodies the same vain and shallow obsession with beauty and material wealth found in that lycanthropic race. She has a decidedly cruel streak as well, and seeks to destroy things and creatures she has n further use for, or that which she cannot acquire.
Jeff
Just wondering, did you make up the layer name? If so, I love it.
Domain Name: 193rd Layer/Vulgarea
My first thoughts (which granted, this isn't a major deity and she may even be dead) were "might she get along with Kiga the Predator". She gets along with Malar... but maybe that's because he's masculine. I was thinking along the lines of "she doesn't like the goddess of weretigresses, Ferrix… but she might get along with a more bloodthirsty cat goddess that she can manipulate through false praise and/or defaming Ferrix".
I like the part about her getting along with Cegilune despite both being Lunar Powers. It might be interesting if Cegilune's trades are to give Eshebala some control over lyncanthropes.
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AuldDragon
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Posted - 02 May 2019 : 00:46:57
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Originally posted by sleyvas
Just wondering, did you make up the layer name? If so, I love it.
Domain Name: 193rd Layer/Vulgarea
Nope, that's from Planescape. :)
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Originally posted by sleyvas
My first thoughts (which granted, this isn't a major deity and she may even be dead) were "might she get along with Kiga the Predator". She gets along with Malar... but maybe that's because he's masculine. I was thinking along the lines of "she doesn't like the goddess of weretigresses, Ferrix… but she might get along with a more bloodthirsty cat goddess that she can manipulate through false praise and/or defaming Ferrix".
She doesn't "get along with" Malar so much as she uses him to get at her brother Daragor. She would have to see something in an alliance/association with Kiga. In general, she is almost completely disinterested in divine politics and other powers, unless she can get a direct personal benefit.
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I like the part about her getting along with Cegilune despite both being Lunar Powers. It might be interesting if Cegilune's trades are to give Eshebala some control over lyncanthropes.
Well, specifically Eshebala claims some power over the moon, but doesn't actually have any. It's mostly hubris on her part. Cegilune puts up with it for reasons unknown, but as much as Eshebala sees herself as using Cegilune, it is absolutely the other way around. :)
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LordofBones
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Posted - 06 May 2019 : 07:04:43
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Originally posted by LordofBones
Given the antics of the most infamous real-life kitsune, would it be accurate to add the Japanese and Vedic pantheons to Eshebala's list of foes? After all, Tamamo-no-Mae menaced Japan, India and China.
I don't know any references to fox spirits in Hindu mythology, but I definitely could have missed it. If you have a source I'd definitely be interested in reading about it. I didn't list any members of the Japanese pantheon in part because she doesn't really actively do much other than pamper herself and take things for herself. There's not really much conflict there. The reason I added the Celestial Bureaucracy is because her she is disrupting orderly operations by essentially stealing agents who have jobs to do, even if minor.
Jeff
In myth, the Tamamo-no-Mae possessed a concubine and corrupted King Zhou of the Shang dynasty, then corrupted an Indian prince, then went back to China, then finally ended up in Japan. She's so infamous that she's known as one of the Three Great Youkai of Japan.
Given the prevalent seduction theme, Eshebala could have ties to the fox. |
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AuldDragon
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Posted - 06 May 2019 : 17:10:54
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Originally posted by LordofBones
In myth, the Tamamo-no-Mae possessed a concubine and corrupted King Zhou of the Shang dynasty, then corrupted an Indian prince, then went back to China, then finally ended up in Japan. She's so infamous that she's known as one of the Three Great Youkai of Japan.
Given the prevalent seduction theme, Eshebala could have ties to the fox.
Right, but that's all in the Japanese myth, right, where India essentially serves as "a land far away"? It might be based on some Indian myths, but they're heavily altered. Besides, while werefoxes are inspired by kitsune, they *aren't* kitsune, and Eshebala is an interloper. The closest thing to the fox shape changers in Indian myth are rakshasas, which are already existent in D&D.
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AuldDragon
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Posted - 03 Jun 2019 : 02:28:24
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Brilros the Battle Stallion: http://bit.ly/2XmYvhK
Another member of the centaur pantheon, Brilros is the child of Fanthros and Naharra, and sibling to Linroth. He represents war, battle, and strength, and like his sister, is a youthful and vigorous power. He leads centaurs in the defense of their lands, and teaches their warriors strategy and tactics.
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AuldDragon
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sleyvas
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Posted - 03 Jul 2019 : 19:45:22
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Damh the Horned Beast: http://bit.ly/2xy2LQx
Child of Titania and Oberon, Damh (pronounced DAV) is the revelrous patron of satyrs and korred. Despite his love for wine, women, and song, he is the physically strongest member of the Seelie Court, and the first to come to defense of sylvan lands.
Jeff
My first thoughts were "man, he'd be a good racial deity for the goat folk/ibixians of the 3.5e monster manual 3". However, while they're compared to satyrs in their entry, they're particularly noted as being more barbarous. Still given Damh's physical nature he might make a good deity for them, just not necessarily their main one. |
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AuldDragon
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Posted - 04 Jul 2019 : 07:09:32
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Originally posted by AuldDragon
Damh the Horned Beast: http://bit.ly/2xy2LQx
Child of Titania and Oberon, Damh (pronounced DAV) is the revelrous patron of satyrs and korred. Despite his love for wine, women, and song, he is the physically strongest member of the Seelie Court, and the first to come to defense of sylvan lands.
Jeff
My first thoughts were "man, he'd be a good racial deity for the goat folk/ibixians of the 3.5e monster manual 3". However, while they're compared to satyrs in their entry, they're particularly noted as being more barbarous. Still given Damh's physical nature he might make a good deity for them, just not necessarily their main one.
Tapann might also be a good choice, or the centaur deities.
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AuldDragon
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Posted - 01 Aug 2019 : 18:58:29
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Daragor the Wolflord: http://bit.ly/2GIbUL7
The bloodthirsty and rapacious patron of werewolves and seawolves, Daragor is a wanderer who delights in nothing but sating his bloodlust. While he wanders the Lower Planes butchering the fiends and travelers he finds there, he sends his avatars to do the same on the Prime Material Plane.
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AuldDragon
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Posted - 01 Sep 2019 : 19:11:12
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Naharra the Mother-Mare: http://bit.ly/32kSzIc
Naharra is the final member of the small centaur pantheon mentioned in Dragon Magazine #105, and rounds out the family group that serves Skerrit. She is the centaur deity of lover, motherhood, and fertility, and as a deity of family, represents the ancestor spirits that many centaur shamans contact for advice.
Jeff |
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AuldDragon
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Posted - 01 Oct 2019 : 22:36:45
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Caoimhin the Kindly: http://bit.ly/2obZk0g
The smallest member of the Seelie Court is Caoimhin (KOO-ev-inn), patron of the little killmoulis. He is a timid and grumbly deity who is keenly aware of his own weaknesses, but has an inner strength where his friends and allies are concerned.
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AuldDragon
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Posted - 01 Nov 2019 : 21:37:29
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Ferrix the Prowler: http://bit.ly/2N5fGSg
Sibling to Balador, Ferrix is a playful and inquisitive deity, and patron of the weretigers. She is a huntress, but gets a greater thrill from the hunt than the kill. She likes to explore and learn, but unlike her brother, she has not the wisdom to differentiate mundane and trivial knowledge.
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AuldDragon
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Posted - 01 Dec 2019 : 19:28:08
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Kheiron the Educator: http://bit.ly/35T1VNf
One of the most famous centaurs, Kheiron is the offspring of the Titan Cronus, but does not share his disposition towards the Olympians. As such, he is included in both that human pantheon and the centaur pantheon, and has branches of his clergy among both races. Throughout his history, he has taken special interest in educating would-be heroes, and his mythology includes many long lists of the heroes he has educated.
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AuldDragon
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Posted - 01 Jan 2020 : 19:52:02
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Nathair Sgiathach the Prankster: http://bit.ly/2ZOPwYY
While one of Io’s Children, Nathair Sgiathach (NEIGH-er SKEY-ak) feels more at home among the small folk of the Seelie Court, and is patron of faerie dragons and pseudodragons. His power is a valuable aid in protecting fairy folk, but unfortunately his irreverent attitude makes for a less valuable advisor to Titania, Queen of the Fairies.
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AuldDragon
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Posted - 01 Feb 2020 : 22:12:04
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Great Mother, the Hive Spawner: http://bit.ly/2UgrWn2
The Great Mother of the beholders is a bizarre being of contradictions. It is a chaotic entity where its spawn are lawful, and while it is the source of beholders’ power, it is also the ultimate origin of all the different breeds of beholder and kin, and thus at least partially responsible for their xenophobic internal wars.
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LordofBones
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Posted - 02 Feb 2020 : 07:36:00
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| Okay, I can understand the others, but what did Diinkarazan do to deserve the Great Mother's emnity? He's a greater danger to the derro than to the Great Mother. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 02 Feb 2020 : 14:40:52
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Okay, I can understand the others, but what did Diinkarazan do to deserve the Great Mother's emnity? He's a greater danger to the derro than to the Great Mother.
They met on a blind date. He took one look at her, screamed like a little girl and ran off, and she's never forgiven him for that. |
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Posted - 02 Feb 2020 : 18:28:23
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| <stage whisper>"Did you SEE what she was WEARING? And that EYE Shadow."<rolls eyes> |
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AuldDragon
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Posted - 01 Mar 2020 : 21:32:30
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Diirinka the Betrayer: http://bit.ly/387V7Mo
Diirinka is the treacherous and cruel patron of the degenerate dwarves known as derro. Exiled from the Morndinsamman for his crimes against his brother and mortal dwarves, he hides in Pandemonium, paranoid that his enemies, especially the illithid god Ilsensine, will find and destroy him.
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PattPlays
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Posted - 19 Jul 2020 : 02:40:55
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I just want to say that I searched for a monster that A.J. Picket called a 'Scourger' relating to Fraz-Urblu and the only result on the entire website was this forum on page 9.
Why does this happen to me? I finally stop researching Orcus (see my created threads) and the Raven Queen's origins and then the only result for a completely unrelated term leads me straight back to more mind shatteringly coincidental forum postings that I now have to deep dive into to get more Kiransalee/Orcus/Grazt/Raven Queen research.
>_>' This place is so magically convinent it's stressful...
Edit: SKURCHUR! Dragon 333. A freaking lack of correct spelling led me here.
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