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LordofBones
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 04 Apr 2018 : 02:31:19
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Please, everyone knows the reason Aerdrie Fenya spends her time in Ysgard is because the men of the Norse pantheon are swole as all hell. |
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Baltas
Senior Scribe
Poland
955 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2018 : 03:20:22
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- LordofBones
You are aware it's also one of the reasons Freyja is there? |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2018 : 05:00:15
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quote: Originally posted by LordofBones
D&D kind of muddies the waters; Sobek and Apep should definitely not be demipowers. Pathfinder's version of Sobek is far closer to the real myth of the crocodile god than the cowardly sycophant of the Mulhorandi pantheon, while Apep should either be a greater power or something equivalent to Jormungandr or Dendar - a cosmic horror intrinsicly tied to his pantheon.
Set himself is generally overhyped as a villain. Yes, he is a fratricidal monster, but he's a valued member of the Egyptian pantheon and the protector of Ra. In myth, he and Horus eventually buried the hatchet.
The Realms' versions of the Egyptian gods have a good excuse for being different than their "real" counterparts, though. As for Set and Horus making up, that's not what I would call accurate. Certain royal dynasties saw Set differently than other royal dynasties, which altered his portrayals during their reigns; they didn't have the negative views that previous and some later dynasties saw him. The D&D game can't easily handle these contradictions, though.
The bigger issue I have is that the game associates him with snakes, which is not accurate to the mythology as far as I can tell, and completely ignores the Set animal. To be honest, I've been resisting working on the Egyptian pantheon these last couple months, since I spent much of January in the country visiting some of the spectacular monuments. :)
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2018 : 05:11:58
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quote: Originally posted by Baltas
-AuldDragon
(Hey, long time no see)
Very interesting write-up of Shekinester, although as we discussed, you didn't include Ssharstrune, although he (it?) may be just Toril-specific.
He and the whole "World Serpent" thing are post-2e, so outside the scope of the project. I would consider much of that FR-specific viewpoints (much as the nagas have a different interpretation of some things compared to couatl and the Vedic followers).
quote: Originally posted by Baltas
I thought other aspects of Shekinester, would be alied with other aspects of Kali/Parvati/Durga (Shakti) - specifically Preserver with Parvati, and the Empowerer with Durga.
I also think now Shekinester could have an eninimity, or relation in the Weaver aspect with Shaktari, who is worshipped by some Naga.
Especially that Shaktari takes on may similar themes as Shekinester.
I'm limiting myself to the AD&D material on the Vedic deities until I can do the research I want, and they aren't covered in the material, so I don't (yet) know how they might interact with Shekinester.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2018 : 05:24:18
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quote: Originally posted by LordofBones
I think Set went waaay beyond 'selfish douche' when he murdered his brother and dismembered him.
Well, if his pops hadn't shafted him in the inheritance by giving all the good land to Osiris and all the crappy land to Set, he wouldn't have had to resort to such measures. It's all Ra's fault, really. ;)
Jeff
(This has been a paid advert of the Set Rehabilitation Fund.) |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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LordofBones
Master of Realmslore
1540 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2018 : 08:06:22
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The naga don't really seem to have any bad interactions with the Vedic pantheon. Garuda hates them all, but conversely both Vasuki and Ananta Sesha, both nagaraja, are friendly with Shiva and Vishnu respectively. Ananta Sesha is notable because in addition to being Vishnu's living throne/couch/canopy, he also often incarnates alongside Vishnu to serve as brother or supporter to Vishnu's avatars, while Vasuki - in addition to helping the asura and the devas churn amrta, the nectar of immortality - spends his time coiled around Shiva's throat.
Yes, that snake around Shiva's throat in religious art is actually a naga god-king.
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jun 2018 : 02:13:35
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Remnis, the Great Lord of the Eagles: http://bit.ly/2J4orfd
Flying through the skies of the upper planes is the Great Lord of the Eagles, Remnis. He is said to be the ultimate aerial hunter, and with his great eyesight, he spies out secrets throughout the planes. He perches on the heights of Mount Celestia and in the boughs of the World Tree Yggdrasil, awaiting the call to service.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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Archmage of Nowhere
Seeker
USA
64 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2018 : 20:40:54
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So it might be a bit late but this has to be, without a doubt the greatest work I have ever come across. I am absolutely blown away by each of these entries as I read them. It has been many years since I have felt that sense of pure enjoyment reading detailed and immersive lore I am unfamiliar with especially for the most common settings in DnD.
Thanks for making me feel like a kid with his first supplement book again! |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
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The Masked Mage
Great Reader
USA
2420 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jun 2018 : 03:07:30
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Somehow I've never come across this before. Fabulous. Taking for me and mine now :) Let the copy pasting begin. |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jul 2018 : 23:57:52
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Blibdoolpoolp the Sea Mother: http://bit.ly/2tK3Pzc
Nearly insane, Blibdoolpoolp is patron of the declining subterranean race of kuo-toa. She hates humanity for the ancient wars that drove her race underground, and is well pleased when her followers sacrifice them to her. She is rumored to know great secrets of ancient magics, but in her insanity, she shares them with no one.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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Thraskir Skimper
Learned Scribe
204 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2018 : 02:26:03
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Don't Forget Idi 'Little Daddy' Snitmin. Kobold Hero / Demigod. |
Thay Red |
Edited by - Thraskir Skimper on 15 Jul 2018 02:46:29 |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
11848 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2018 : 16:49:27
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quote: Originally posted by AuldDragon
Blibdoolpoolp the Sea Mother: http://bit.ly/2tK3Pzc
Nearly insane, Blibdoolpoolp is patron of the declining subterranean race of kuo-toa. She hates humanity for the ancient wars that drove her race underground, and is well pleased when her followers sacrifice them to her. She is rumored to know great secrets of ancient magics, but in her insanity, she shares them with no one.
Jeff
I like the rumor tying her to Anguileusis, as well as the one that makes her a daughter of the elder elemental god and sister to Olhydra. I also like the idea that she sponsored the rise of Ilxendren.
Darahl Firecloak? Your own invention?
Man, you put some work into that. Well done. I will have to get t the rest later, but I like it. |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
Phillip aka Sleyvas |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 01 Aug 2018 : 23:00:06
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Merrshaulk the Serpent Lord: http://bit.ly/Merrshaulk
While still powerful, the somnolent Merrshaulk is in a slow decline. His chosen followers are the insidious yuan-ti, who lurk in ruins of ancient cities, either remnants of their own past or the remains of places they corrupted and destroyed. His lack of direct attention to his followers has led to a usurpation of his power by other deities on more than one world, however.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 01 Oct 2018 : 17:57:13
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Persana, Guardian of the Deep: http://bit.ly/2OXzuFW
Persana is the creator and patron of the tritons, having sculpted them from elemental water and breathed life into them. He is known as one of the greatest architects of the multiverse, having designed a wide variety of wonders throughout the planes. While aloof and generally uninterested in the affairs of others, he recognizes that the other good and neutral races of the deep are more likely to keep to agreements and defend allies in need, and so has thrown his lot in with them.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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Scots Dragon
Seeker
United Kingdom
89 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2018 : 00:22:00
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quote: Originally posted by Baltas
- LordofBones
You are aware it's also one of the reasons Freyja is there?
Given that I've heard of Freyja, Aerdrie Faenya, Eilistraee, and a whole gaggle of Valkyries being in Ysgard, I suspect on at least some level that it's not so much the menfolk of Ysgard... |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
11848 Posts |
Posted - 05 Nov 2018 : 15:49:40
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quote: Originally posted by AuldDragon
Linroth Fleet-Hoof: http://bit.ly/2PvXvUv
One of the four minor centaur deities mentioned in Dragon Magazine #103, Linroth is a deity of speed, traveling, and merchants. I drew some inspiration from nomadic steppe peoples for the write-up, as well as some elements from Greek mythology.
Jeff
Well done. BTW, I'd put this deity also as an ally of Lurue. The way both of them are portrayed as travelling the world, I can just picture a race similar to what you described with Hermes, but with Lurue using gates, teleportation, and other magical tricks to stay one step ahead.... but maybe Linroth finally wins and Lurue rewards Linroth's cunning by gifting her a magical animal companion... maybe a small amazingly fast talking hummingbird? I can picture the two getting into highjinks together and the hummingbird being able to go where she can't. Maybe even the talking hummingbird talks SOOO fast that noone else can understand it except speedy Linroth. |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
Phillip aka Sleyvas |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2018 : 04:57:51
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quote: Originally posted by sleyvas
Well done. BTW, I'd put this deity also as an ally of Lurue. The way both of them are portrayed as travelling the world, I can just picture a race similar to what you described with Hermes, but with Lurue using gates, teleportation, and other magical tricks to stay one step ahead.... but maybe Linroth finally wins and Lurue rewards Linroth's cunning by gifting her a magical animal companion... maybe a small amazingly fast talking hummingbird? I can picture the two getting into highjinks together and the hummingbird being able to go where she can't. Maybe even the talking hummingbird talks SOOO fast that noone else can understand it except speedy Linroth.
I could see a lot of that. I mainly went with Greek rather than any other connections because of Kheiron (Chiron) and the real-world mythic origins of centaurs. :)
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 02 Dec 2018 : 17:41:53
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Fanthros Storm-Hooves: http://bit.ly/2KKZH9m
This month features the second of the four centaur deities that were listed but not detailed in an old Dragon Magazine articles on centaurs. Fanthros is the patriach of the small clan of four deities, who all serve under Skerrit the Forrester. Among the small centaur pantheon, Fanthros is the deity of weather, the sky, and agriculture.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jan 2019 : 06:36:52
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Panzuriel the Enslaver: http://bit.ly/2CJf7IQ
Panzuriel is the evil of the depths, partially banished long ago by Deep Sashelas and an alliances of oceanic deities. He raises a rabble of followers wherever he can in order to lay waste to the civilizations on the sea floor, although his favored followers are the kraken and morkoth.
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
11848 Posts |
Posted - 02 Jan 2019 : 13:22:55
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quote: Originally posted by AuldDragon
Fanthros Storm-Hooves: http://bit.ly/2KKZH9m
This month features the second of the four centaur deities that were listed but not detailed in an old Dragon Magazine articles on centaurs. Fanthros is the patriach of the small clan of four deities, who all serve under Skerrit the Forrester. Among the small centaur pantheon, Fanthros is the deity of weather, the sky, and agriculture.
Jeff
Nice last name addition. Also, as odd as it may sound, the holy symbol made me smile. His association to pegataurs as well seems right, and I'd actually recommend asperii as well.
I particularly want to thank you for this, as I was wanting to introduce these 4 centaur deities in Katashaka after you introduced them to me by referencing the article in dragon #103, but to have them cross racial boundaries to several tauric races (centaurs, ram-like "bariaur-kin" as the Faerunians have named them, Hybsil, Nyaalaku <larger antelope folk than Hybsils>, and Zebrataurs).
I'm also just now noting some similarities that may lead to some heresies that could be fun. Basically, in Anchorome there are the thunder twins which are "great spirits" modeled after native american mythology. I was mirroring this in my "Metahel" pantheon that resembles but differs from the Norse pantheon, with a storm god named Thoros who births twins on different mothers (yeah, makes no sense, but neither does Heimdahl having nine mothers) that resemble somewhat Magni and Modi. He also has a daughter that is tied to runes/magic. Here we have another instance of a storm god birthing twins, and one of these is actually a god of strength as well. I'm not saying they would be the same beings, but rather that mortals might debate such. I also introduced another Metahel horse being somewhat resembling Sleipnir with my version of Loki (I've adapted the little spoken of Valigan Thirdborn), which I'm naming Besparr the Many-Legged. Who the "horse" was that Valigan Thirdborn mated with? Hells, for all we know it might be this god, might be Eachthighern, or something else entirely. That also being said, I might even change the concept of Besparr the Many-Legged to instead be a giant caribou with many legs, but have him linked to beings such as asperii, hippocampi, etc... I might even hint that Besparr the Many-Legged is both male and female, as some form of conjoined twin... and thus 8 legs.
Moedae, Lord of Bravery and Mounted Combat, one of the Thunder Twins - This god rides a silver-furred Asperii that can also change into a Hippocampus when it goes beneath the waves. Magnaear is seen as a restless god and he rides across the heavens seeking out new challenges to test himself against. He is the son of Sifya and Thoros. Magnaear, Lord of Strength, one of the Thunder Twins – Magnaer is noted as being extremely strong and hairy. This god is noted as having a female bear companion, Balanis, who periodically changes shape into that of a woman. It is rumored that her ability to change shape was a gift bestowed by Magnaer, and he did thereby accept the curse that he himself must periodically wander the world as a bear himself. Other stories say that Magnaear received Balanis as a bride-price for a service performed for another deity known as Father Bear or Balador, having come to Balador's aid when he was attacked by a great werewolf named Daragor. It is said in that story that Magnaear was bitten by Daragor and that Balador changed Magnaear's curse by mixing his blood with that of Balanis during their marriage ceremony. There are stories that these two did birth a race of intelligent bear folk, and nearly anytime the two of them are seen they are followed by three young, inquisitive bear cubs. Unlike his aggressive brother, Moedae, Magnaear is known for simply wanting to relax and eat, but he is always called out by foolish giants and other creatures who seek to best him in combat. He is the son of Yaernsacsa and Thoros.
Thoordra Thorosdottir, goddess of runes and truename magic, daughter of Thoros and Sifya – Thoordra is a dutiful daughter who serves to inspire those who seek to employ runecraft. She is depticted in art as a shapely red headed goddess of large but well-placed girth. It is said that it was she that recovered the eye of her grandfather, Asagrimmr, from an ancient place of power. She then delivered it to her father, Thoros, when he lost his own eye. It was also Thoordra who helped nail Thoros to the world ash when he sought to delve the mysteries of his father's eye to learn the mysteries of rune magic. Thoordra listened to the fevered meanderings of Thoros for sixteen days, all while protecting her father from the assaults of giant and demonkind. Between fighting, she tended to her father, bringing him mango juice and cleansing his wounds with water from Eldunna's Goldenheart Spring. She also made note of the many mystical markings which covered his body during these fevered dreams, markings which would change shape and/or come and go as time passed. As a result, she learned much of rune and truename magic. However, she sought more, and so her father and she did plot to steal more knowledge of runecraft from the dwarves. Thoordra did entreat a dwarven god of wisdom, whose name seems to vary, but whose ugliness was brought on by the great size of his egg shaped head. Thoordra proposed that she and this dwarven god should become betrothed to her, and met with him in “secret” to tryst with him and they did make vows to one another. When Thoros “learned” of this betrayal he claimed that the dwarven god of wisdom must prove his intellect if he wanted to claim a daughter as fine as his own. It is said that in his haste to prove his wisdom and thus gain her love, that the god revealed the secrets of dwarven runecraft, and thus proved himself a fool not worthy of Thoordra. He was thus slain and Thoordra absorbed much of his power, and it is whispered that his stone body floats in the astral to this day.
Besparr the many-legged – Lord of horses, Asperii and Hippocampi. It is said by the Metahel that Besparr is born of a pairing of Valigor the Runtborn Giant while in the form of a mare and a great primordial horse. Besparr appears as an eight legged horse of white fur and a silver mane that can ride the winds, but he can also enter the sea in the form of a hippocampi. Primarily worshipped in Anchorome, his worship has spread to Katashaka with the coming of the Metahel. In Anchorome he is worshipped by centaurs, asperii, Poscadari Elves, Metahel humans, avariel elves, and aquatic elves.
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Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
Phillip aka Sleyvas |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2019 : 01:14:25
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quote: Originally posted by sleyvas
Nice last name addition. Also, as odd as it may sound, the holy symbol made me smile. His association to pegataurs as well seems right, and I'd actually recommend asperii as well.
I particularly want to thank you for this, as I was wanting to introduce these 4 centaur deities in Katashaka after you introduced them to me by referencing the article in dragon #103, but to have them cross racial boundaries to several tauric races (centaurs, ram-like "bariaur-kin" as the Faerunians have named them, Hybsil, Nyaalaku <larger antelope folk than Hybsils>, and Zebrataurs).
Glad you liked it! I think the hybsils and asperii would be drawn to other deities primarily; the asperii would probably be drawn to Eachthighern or Lurue, and hybsils would probably be drawn to the primary Seelie court and Skerrit in general. Zebrataurs would probably be drawn to the four from Dragon 103 more than Skerrit though. :)
Jeff |
My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
11848 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2019 : 12:57:22
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quote: Originally posted by AuldDragon
quote: Originally posted by sleyvas
Nice last name addition. Also, as odd as it may sound, the holy symbol made me smile. His association to pegataurs as well seems right, and I'd actually recommend asperii as well.
I particularly want to thank you for this, as I was wanting to introduce these 4 centaur deities in Katashaka after you introduced them to me by referencing the article in dragon #103, but to have them cross racial boundaries to several tauric races (centaurs, ram-like "bariaur-kin" as the Faerunians have named them, Hybsil, Nyaalaku <larger antelope folk than Hybsils>, and Zebrataurs).
Glad you liked it! I think the hybsils and asperii would be drawn to other deities primarily; the asperii would probably be drawn to Eachthighern or Lurue, and hybsils would probably be drawn to the primary Seelie court and Skerrit in general. Zebrataurs would probably be drawn to the four from Dragon 103 more than Skerrit though. :)
Jeff
Well, for the Hybsil, I see them favoring the OTHER centaur gods amongst those four (Naharra the fertility and love goddess, Linroth the goddess of speed, and for the males Brilros god of strength), more than this guy. Also, this is for an area where the Fey courts will hold no sway. Skerrit works as well though, and I do have him listed as an option. I'm also noting in my notes I gave Linroth the portfolio of dancing as well... not sure why, but I'm guessing I'm seeing her as a goddess of courtship/the chase (as a servitor goddess of her mother).
On the asperii though, I gotta admit, I hadn't thought to specifically tie them to THIS deity UNTIL I started reading more about him. Given the asperii's love of riding winter winds and playing in storms, they do seem like the type that may favor this guy. Lurue and Eachthighern would also seem to fit as well (and I'm putting Lurue in the area where this is, but not Eachthighern). But interestingly enough, I could see some druidic asperii, and it could be interesting to develop magic items that they might use in order to enable their spellcasting (perhaps an item that specifically allows asperii to use a telepathic voice to replace verbal components? Somatic components via twitching ears, shaking mane, and nose.... I just got an image of bewitched in my head where she's twitching her nose). |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
Phillip aka Sleyvas |
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AuldDragon
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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 18 Feb 2019 : 08:18:00
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AuldDragon...are you aware of any of the deities mentioned in this article? I'm not 100% sure what/where it's from but it is from a file I have on Thar and I'm pretty sure I acquired it from Dazzlerdal. Anyway, here it is:
quote: “Very well”, the leucrotta said at last. “You people think we’re animals, don’t you? By now you know that we’re far more. We “leucrotta”, as you call us, do have some unique ways of looking at the world. We see through the eyes of the Pack, and the Pack guides us”. “The Pack?” I asked. “Yes. They are our; what’s your word of it?, our gods”. That the leucrotta are intelligent was a revelation. That they worship a previously unknown pantheon of gods and goddesses was nothing short of unbelievable. According to Olaf, the leucrotta worship a group of archetypal predators known as the Pack. This Pack is led, not surprisingly, by the great leucrotta, Toknana. The Pack ranges across the plains of the Abyss, preying upon the tanar’ri, sending prey animals to deserving leucrotta, and defending the species against its enemies. Toknana is assisted by a number of other archetypal creatures, such as Hruba the Chimera, Ylarria the Red Dragon, and Voal the Hydra. In addition, numerous leucrotta, chosen from the finest and most cunning hunters on Faerûn, also run with Toknana across the Abyss, and are sometimes dispatched to the Prime Material Plane to assist mortal leucrotta if they are threatened or need new tricks to help them deceive and capture prey. The heroic example of Toknana and his Pack, who fear nothing and hunt even the most powerful of prey, form the basis of the leucrotta’s world view. They have been awarded the world as their hunting ground, and those who prove the most dangerous and resourceful (which in the leucrotta’s mind also means “most deceitful”) will be united with Toknana in a land where they can hunt without fear of death or reprisal.
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6669 Posts |
Posted - 18 Feb 2019 : 11:50:22
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Elminster's Ecologies - The Great Gray Land of Thar booklet (p.14).
-- George Krashos |
"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
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AuldDragon
Senior Scribe
USA
574 Posts |
Posted - 18 Feb 2019 : 18:13:57
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Yep, I'm aware; I drew the other Ogre deities from the same source. :)
I haven't really decided how to handle them yet, in part because from the material, they're clearly not worshiped by any humanoids or other semi-civilized creatures that have religious rites, wrship locations, etc. My inclination is to treat them originally as aspects of Gorellik that have been usurped by Malar, mainly to preserve the dwindling power of Gorellik. Hyenas are believed to have inspired the mythological leucrotta (hence the scientific name Crocotta), and both Gorellik and Toknana are pack leaders. The other beings in the "pack" don't really fit IMO, but other than the dragon, they could be echoes of the Monsters of Legend from one of the Planescape Monstrous Compendium appendices, which are archetypal monsters (sphinxes, hydra, etc.). I wouldn't make the red dragon packmember Ylarria one of the dragon deities, though, since they wouldn't be subservient to a non-draconic god, so worship of them should still be directed in reality to the original power.
I'd probably feel differently if all of the members of the pack were leucrotta who represented different aspects of leucrotta life.
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My 2nd Edition blog: http://blog.aulddragon.com/ My streamed AD&D Spelljamer sessions: https://www.youtube.com/user/aulddragon/playlists?flow=grid&shelf_id=18&view=50 "That sums it up in a nutshell, AuldDragon. You make a more convincing argument. But he's right and you're not." |
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