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Shadowsoul
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 Posted - 25 Jan 2014 : 14:03:01
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When I sit down and read about Golarion, the more it seems like Forgotten Realms. In my opinion, it has a very "Realms" feel to it which I like very much.
I would actually love to see some of the best Forgottem Realms authors head on over to Paizo and start writing for their campaign world. I just feel like Paizo would be better suited for this than WotC. I actually could see Golarion become a rival of the Forgotten Realms.
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Wooly Rupert
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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 25 Jan 2014 : 14:33:24
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| It's already a rival of the Realms. I haven't read any of the novels but the setting has continued to grow in popularity and I may start reading them soon. Now, I wont go so far as to say Golarion has a Realms 'feel' to it (there are some very different themes involved in Golarion) but it does have some similarities as well (at least some commonalities with the early Realms material). |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
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Posted - 25 Jan 2014 : 14:51:10
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| yeah, it has some similarities, but each region feels (at least out of the box) separate from each other. That being said, I know that they have a lot of material out there that I don't know about, since I don't get the modules or the add ons. I've read some of the novels, and they aren't bad, but some just didn't hit me right (the one where they were in the Golarion version of Asia I found meh...) |
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Dreamstalker
Acolyte
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Posted - 25 Jan 2014 : 22:04:59
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| Golarion is a very well done world. It doesn't quite have that well worn aged feel of the Realms, but the kitchen sink approach is there from the beginning so it is less jarring to see something from left field in the game. |
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Jan 2014 : 06:24:05
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Dark Wizard
Senior Scribe
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830 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jan 2014 : 21:27:55
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I've heard it described as more a modern take on Greyhawk with some Realms aspects to it.
I think it was all built from the ground up* through a mild pulp sword & sorcery lens rather than a direct homage to either Greyhawk or FR.
*Some elements might be derived from designer homebrews, but nothing to the extent of Ed and the Realms, or even Gary Gygax and Greyhawk, or Dave Arneson and Blackmoor. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 27 Jan 2014 : 01:57:31
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I haven't had a detailed look at Golarion, but to me, it certainly feels more Greyhawk than Forgotten Realms.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 27 Jan 2014 : 04:15:48
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It doesn't feel Realms-ish to me. Golarion doesn't give me the feeling of history and wonder that the Realms does, and I don't think it has any really interesting characters, either, other than a small handful, like Radovan and Count Jeggare.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 27 Jan 2014 : 15:10:24
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I'm not inclined to think of GOLARION as being "like this world" or "that world."
It's pretty much it's own unique world -- or at least, that's how I've always seen it. |
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 27 Jan 2014 : 15:13:47
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| it is its own world, feels like greyhawk with a dash of the realms though. |
why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
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Matt James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
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Posted - 29 Jan 2014 : 00:34:06
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 29 Jan 2014 : 05:03:34
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I get the Greyhawk vibe from it.
I never cared for Greyhawk because it all felt disjointed to me, like things were just dropped here and there without any thought to how they fit together. While Golarion does share, for me, the mix-and-match feeling of Greyhawk, it feels put together better. So while it does remind me of Greyhawk, I don't get the same vibe from it. |
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CorellonsDevout
Great Reader
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Posted - 30 Jan 2014 : 01:48:00
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Shadowsoul
Senior Scribe
Ireland
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Posted - 30 Jan 2014 : 13:54:03
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
It doesn't feel Realms-ish to me. Golarion doesn't give me the feeling of history and wonder that the Realms does, and I don't think it has any really interesting characters, either, other than a small handful, like Radovan and Count Jeggare.
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 30 Jan 2014 : 13:54:08
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Originally posted by Shadowsoul
When I sit down and read about Golarion, the more it seems like Forgotten Realms. In my opinion, it has a very "Realms" feel to it which I like very much.
That is precisely how I feel.
In fact, its as if somebody 'stole' Ed's original notes of the Realms (some sort of 5-page brief synopsis), ran off with it, and created their own world based on that (which may not be far from the truth, since many of its designers worked on The Realms). This would include any of those 'deeper secrets' he had laying beneath the surface (aboleths, anyone?)
I guess it depends on where you 'start' with PF. For me, it was their Inner Sea World Guide, and as I read through it, I get a VERY 'FR vibe' from the whole thing. If I had started where most of their community started - with the Varisia (sub-)setting - that would have felt very different. However, as we 'pan-out' and take a wider view, it looks more and more like The Realms (but jumbled-up and re-envisioned). For example, they dumped their "long-lost empire of flying cities" in their Chult-like (Mwangi) region. Big Deal; still the same vibe to me.
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Originally posted by George Krashos
I haven't had a detailed look at Golarion, but to me, it certainly feels more Greyhawk than Forgotten Realms.
This is also true, to a point. You may have been influenced by your knowledge of Erik Mona, though (who was a big Greyhawk fan and designer). There is that vibe as well, and it did start-out just as 'bare-bones' and lore-light as GH, but as the setting has matured and we've gotten more info, the details are all getting filled-in, and now its looking much more like FR.
Here's the big difference - its becoming the detailed setting FR is (although it would take at least another 15 years to achieve the same level of detail), BUT... with an amazing 'traffic cop' (or group of traffic-cops) that filter everything created through their greater 'setting bible', to avoid contradictions/continuity problems. Occasionally something still slips through the cracks, but when fans catch it, they quickly come up with a fix, or make the decision which is correct (and apologize for the gaff). So the setting continuity retains a greater uniformity then FR could ever know, simply because they are quick to snip all those stray bits (before it starts to fray). The best example of that is early-on someone portrayed the church of Seranrae incorrectly (it's supposed to be more like Ilmater), and we wound-up getting a more militant, 'knights Hospitaller' take on them. This was later addressed, and both are correct - there are simply different (regional) sects within the church.
When you catch that stuff early, and explain it, it makes for a much 'smoother' experience for the fans. 
So we can say its like 'FR done right', or 'GH done right' (or Mystara, etc), and both would be correct, because the folks who are working on it (including authors) have all been down this road before, have seen what works and what doesn't, and are able to put a really nice polish on everything. Its familiar because it IS a generic, 'kitchen-sink' D&D setting, but thats not such a bad thing - its just the latest version of that 'world of adventure' we've come to expect from a fanatsy RPG. Its designed to have the broadest appeal possible, which may rub some folks the wrong way, but we do live in the Real World, and 'niche settings' don't really pay the bills. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 30 Jan 2014 : 14:17:48
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Originally posted by Markustay
You may have been influenced by your knowledge of Erik Mona, though (who was a big Greyhawk fan and designer). There is that vibe as well, and it did start-out just as 'bare-bones' and lore-light as GH, but as the setting has matured and we've gotten more info, the details are all getting filled-in, and now its looking much more like FR.
 I was a fan of Greyhawk before there was an internet and an Erik Mona to influence me!
My hard copy of Dragon #100 had the place names in Ed's "Pages From the Mages" article replaced with Greyhawk locales.
I typed up - yes typed, as in a typewriter - my first ever "module" while I was in high school and it was set in the Cairn Hills.
I was a huge fan of Greyhawk until the Ol' Grey Box swept away my allegiance in a matter of hours.
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 30 Jan 2014 : 14:49:15
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Oh, I was a huge GH fan back in the day as well*... but never to the extent I became an FR fan.
I guess because like my taste in women... there's just "more there to love".
All I meant was, we know Erik Mona was a 'GH guy', and we know he runs the show over there at Paizo, so it may skew us to see a lot of GH in it, because we are aware of those associations.
Or not.
*Check the map of Cormyr Mike Schley did for BJ's article. You see the little (goblin) village of Gwarch in the Stonelads? That came from MY MAP of the Stonelands... and Gwarch was a goblinoid settlement on the shore of MY Wild Coast (in Greyhawk), from around 1985 (and if I still had my GH box, I could even show you where I wrote on it). Its nothing like my original, which was a city.The FR version is more of a village with a trading post... but the name is a homage to my GH original.  |
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Gustaveren
Learned Scribe
Denmark
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Posted - 03 Jan 2015 : 13:32:27
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I still like the pre spellplague realms more than Golarion since they are more mature with more lore and more complexity but i have been buying Golarion as crazy. I believe the sourcebooks give good value for money and i can feel the progress in developing the lore, the complexity and details. I have a feeling, that Golarion will one day have outcompeted FR in lore, complexity and setting details and that is good. It feels as a much more ambitious setting creation compared to FR even though i have to admit, i would buy a lot more Golarion products if they were able to release them at a faster speed. I want more details, more lore,....
Well, for those of us there love birthright kingdom rule campaigns. Golarions Kingdom maker adventure path was really interesting to pick up.
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Originally posted by Markustay
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Originally posted by Shadowsoul
When I sit down and read about Golarion, the more it seems like Forgotten Realms. In my opinion, it has a very "Realms" feel to it which I like very much.
That is precisely how I feel.
In fact, its as if somebody 'stole' Ed's original notes of the Realms (some sort of 5-page brief synopsis), ran off with it, and created their own world based on that (which may not be far from the truth, since many of its designers worked on The Realms). This would include any of those 'deeper secrets' he had laying beneath the surface (aboleths, anyone?)
I guess it depends on where you 'start' with PF. For me, it was their Inner Sea World Guide, and as I read through it, I get a VERY 'FR vibe' from the whole thing. If I had started where most of their community started - with the Varisia (sub-)setting - that would have felt very different. However, as we 'pan-out' and take a wider view, it looks more and more like The Realms (but jumbled-up and re-envisioned). For example, they dumped their "long-lost empire of flying cities" in their Chult-like (Mwangi) region. Big Deal; still the same vibe to me.
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Originally posted by George Krashos
I haven't had a detailed look at Golarion, but to me, it certainly feels more Greyhawk than Forgotten Realms.
This is also true, to a point. You may have been influenced by your knowledge of Erik Mona, though (who was a big Greyhawk fan and designer). There is that vibe as well, and it did start-out just as 'bare-bones' and lore-light as GH, but as the setting has matured and we've gotten more info, the details are all getting filled-in, and now its looking much more like FR.
Here's the big difference - its becoming the detailed setting FR is (although it would take at least another 15 years to achieve the same level of detail), BUT... with an amazing 'traffic cop' (or group of traffic-cops) that filter everything created through their greater 'setting bible', to avoid contradictions/continuity problems. Occasionally something still slips through the cracks, but when fans catch it, they quickly come up with a fix, or make the decision which is correct (and apologize for the gaff). So the setting continuity retains a greater uniformity then FR could ever know, simply because they are quick to snip all those stray bits (before it starts to fray). The best example of that is early-on someone portrayed the church of Seranrae incorrectly (it's supposed to be more like Ilmater), and we wound-up getting a more militant, 'knights Hospitaller' take on them. This was later addressed, and both are correct - there are simply different (regional) sects within the church.
When you catch that stuff early, and explain it, it makes for a much 'smoother' experience for the fans.
So we can say its like 'FR done right', or 'GH done right' (or Mystara, etc), and both would be correct, because the folks who are working on it (including authors) have all been down this road before, have seen what works and what doesn't, and are able to put a really nice polish on everything. Its familiar because it IS a generic, 'kitchen-sink' D&D setting, but thats not such a bad thing - its just the latest version of that 'world of adventure' we've come to expect from a fanatsy RPG. Its designed to have the broadest appeal possible, which may rub some folks the wrong way, but we do live in the Real World, and 'niche settings' don't really pay the bills.
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 03 Jan 2015 : 15:48:22
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I have a bunch of Pathfinder novels, I'd read the SRD and took a peek at the source books at chapters, but while some of the classes and races are cool, Oracles and Vishkanya for example, I have no interest in the actual system, I like 5e far better.
Still I enjoy the novels alot. I've read Winter Witch, one I forget what its called about an Urbane Druid which I loved, something called Shadow Caller or something which again I loved, abit its very dark and disturbing, qnd a few others. Plus they have short stories right on thier sight. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 03 Jan 2015 : 19:09:23
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The Kingmaker lore fits nicely in the Narfell region, Gustaveran. Unfortunately my Misbegotten Realms map is very 'raw' in that area, but all of Steven Schend's Iobaria material (from Varnhold Vanishing) works as well, with a little retro-fitting (it easily takes the place of Sossal).
Not sure what to do about the River kingdoms - that was a problem for me as well. You'd wouldn't need them all - just create a small 'bandit kingdoms' area in the eastern Great Dale region. You really only need Pitax - could just be a minor warlord in that area with delusions of grandeur.
I really should do a more 'canon' conversion then the one I did for my game. Iobaria has a great 'Realms vibe' (and small wonder, considering who wrote it).
So many maps, so little time. 
On the other hand, I can do what WotC cannot - use PF material to lure customers/FR fans back with unofficial conversions. Might be a worth-while endeavor, once I see what they do to FR in 5e. |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
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Posted - 04 Jan 2015 : 15:52:15
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Markustay,
Enlighten me.... Kingmaker Lore??? |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
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11827 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2015 : 15:53:40
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Markustay,
Enlighten me.... Kingmaker Lore???
NM, the googles found it. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
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Posted - 04 Jan 2015 : 22:18:47
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| Having read a lot (maybe 75%) of the pre-Spellplague Forgotten Realms novels and all of the Pathfinder Tales novels, I definitely get more of a Realms-vibe. That being said, I never really got into Greyhawk or Dragonlance. My suggestions of the specific "sub"-series I would suggest the Radovan and Jeggare series (by Dave Gross, a veteran Realms author), the pirates series (by Chris Jackson, who happens to be an awesome person to hang out with for a few hours as well), Liar's Blade (by Tim Pratt, a veteran Realms author), and the Death's Heretic series (by James Sutter, co-creator of the Pathfinder campaign setting and Managing Editor of Pathfinder fiction). |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 05 Jan 2015 : 13:49:33
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I only read one GH novel, and it made me not want to read anymore. I never read any DL novels (the setting just rubs me the wrong way... don't know why), and as for Eberron... plowed through one of those, and it was rough. I couldn't hold my interest AT ALL, and had to force myself to finish it (which was a waste of time, since it was the first in a series, and I had NO INTENTION of buying another).
Not a big fan of 'shared world' novels. I am a 'trekkie' from way back, but after just one Trek (drek) novel I gave up on those. For whatever reason The Forgotten Realms has been the only (almost*) shared-world setting that I have fully enjoyed in novels. Maybe its the size - it allows for a lot of different flavors (although shouldn't that apply even more-so to Scify?)
I really do have to try the PF novels - that setting is VERY interesting... but I am afraid it will start to pull me away again (it was my preferred setting during 4e). I would probably start with Elaine's - she is my favorite FR author (she hits spot-on on all my criteria).
*Almost - I loved the old Thieve's World series of novels, until the authors got into a 'war of power escalation" and the series turned to crap. Sadly, I think this is inevitable in a Shared World. "You blew up a planet? Well, I'm gonna blow up a solar system!!!"
However, that series did not exist beyond the novels (several RPG products were later made), so there was no other media to hold the standard against, which helped it... for awhile. |
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Marc
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Posted - 05 Jan 2015 : 21:16:47
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| I've only read the Death Heretic novels, the biggest difference is that gods aren't directly involved with the world, and there are more atheists. |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
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Posted - 06 Jan 2015 : 00:40:56
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I only read one GH novel, and it made me not want to read anymore. I never read any DL novels (the setting just rubs me the wrong way... don't know why), and as for Eberron... plowed through one of those, and it was rough. I couldn't hold my interest AT ALL, and had to force myself to finish it (which was a waste of time, since it was the first in a series, and I had NO INTENTION of buying another).
Not a big fan of 'shared world' novels. I am a 'trekkie' from way back, but after just one Trek (drek) novel I gave up on those. For whatever reason The Forgotten Realms has been the only (almost*) shared-world setting that I have fully enjoyed in novels. Maybe its the size - it allows for a lot of different flavors (although shouldn't that apply even more-so to Scify?)
I really do have to try the PF novels - that setting is VERY interesting... but I am afraid it will start to pull me away again (it was my preferred setting during 4e). I would probably start with Elaine's - she is my favorite FR author (she hits spot-on on all my criteria).
*Almost - I loved the old Thieve's World series of novels, until the authors got into a 'war of power escalation" and the series turned to crap. Sadly, I think this is inevitable in a Shared World. "You blew up a planet? Well, I'm gonna blow up a solar system!!!"
However, that series did not exist beyond the novels (several RPG products were later made), so there was no other media to hold the standard against, which helped it... for awhile.
I gotta say, my experience has been very similar. Thieve's world and FR have been the two shared world experiences that truly held me. While I've read some of the PF novels, they're just not holding me. That being said, maybe it was the particular stories that I read. Dragonlance, I could get into anything by Weiss and Hickman, but no one else. I will say that the star wars short stories I've read were pretty good, though. But thieve's world was awesome. I loved Tempus and the Sons. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 07 Jan 2015 : 15:24:30
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So after an earlier post in this thread got me thinking about PF's Kingmaker again (and Steven Schend's wonderful Iobaria material), just for poops and giggles - and because I need a break from what I was working on - I decided to see what that would look like - a full blown canon conversion (as opposed to my Misbegotten one). I don't like the way normal conversions are done. Back in the day it wasn't so bad, since most of the modules were one-offs, but these newer APs are so lore-heavy and complicated that full conversions seem like a waste of time to me . After all, if you are going to run someone from level 1 all the way up to level 15+ (or whatever), then you may as well just use the setting it was intended for. Or just create your own similar adventure from scratch for the world of your choosing, since you have to rewrite everything anyway. This is why I prefer the 'blended' method, where you paste the entire adventure region into the world you like, so that all the maps and lore work 'right out of the box'.
I started out pasting it into the 3e FR map, and that was very messy. I kept losing Rashemen completely. I needed more room, so I went back to the older 1e/2e layout, and since I need some of the Hordelands, I went with the Fonstad Atlas map (because the 1e/2e campaign maps of Faerūn do not show enough of the Endless wastes). It was good fit. In fact, it was a DAMN GOOD FIT. The main mountain range I needed lined up perfectly with an existing one. Whilst doing all of this, I started thinking about the lore-blending, and that, too, was pretty seamless. Just a few caveats (Brevoy=Sossal, Ancient Iobaria=Raumathar, etc). I even have it where the Imaskari were the ones that destroyed the last vestiges of the primeval Cyclops empire on the Great Ice Sea. As I looked around, I found more and more pieces fit seamlessly... there were even tribes of centaurs in that area! (the Taan region in FR has them, and there was a Centaur kingdom existing in Thay before the Mulhorandi arrived).
So back to the map - all of this brain-storming was taking place while I was coaxing them together. As I marveled at how well both the lore and map merged so well, I came back to that one main mountain range - even the direction was ideal! So then I looked at the names - usually a big problem with this type of conversion (normally I just say one is the 'local name' and the other is the 'formal name').
The mountains are called Icerim in FR... and Icerime in Golarion. 
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 07 Jan 2015 : 16:06:15
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I hadn't thought of it that way, but thats an interesting idea. Here I am wishing the Realms had gotten a reboot, and maybe we already have an example of what that would look like (but as you pointed-out, they had to rename stuff to avoid legal crap).
"Be careful what you wish for" indeed.
Golarion isn't The Forgotten Realms, but its a reasonable facsimile. I find it way too easy to blend the two together. |
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Marc
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Posted - 07 Jan 2015 : 16:53:51
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Originally posted by Markustay
The mountains are called Icerim in FR... and Icerime in Golarion.
Yeah, I had the same few years ago. Also Irrisen was in the North Country, tough a smaller version, to fit. |
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Pathfinder's "Golarion" and FR authors.
