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rodrigoalcanza
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Posted - 19 Jan 2014 :  14:32:12  Show Profile Send rodrigoalcanza a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hello!

I would like to help with the theme Titles and Forms of Address in the Realms. For example, I have a PC that belongs to a noble family of Cormyr. Family Crownsilver. He is just a member of the family, but not govern any land or business. So what would be the title that he should be calling? Lord? Sir? Nobleman? Or without any title, just your name?

And what is the case for a character, peasant, who ascended to some high office, as high priest, for example. He would be treated as a noble? Would have a similar respect or even be seen as a peasant?

Thanks and sorry for my english!

sleyvas
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Posted - 19 Jan 2014 :  15:49:39  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is best discussed in "Ed Greenwood Presents Elminster's Forgotten Realms" on page 17. However, its going to vary by region. In the example you give, technically he should probably be called Lord Crownsilver. However, I'd bet most people would simply call him "Sir", "Saer", or "Goodsir". When not addressing him directly, some might call him "Highborn X Crownsilver". If he's next in line to THE current "Lady Crownsilver" they may call him "young lord Crownsilver". Note, there are some unusual things to Cormyrian titles too, such as the fact that local lords are always referred to as Lord despite gender (for instance Myrmeen Lhal is known as the "Lord of Arabel"). One thing I'd make certain to do with this player is define his linkage to the family, since the Crownsilver family is quite wealthy in Cormyr. He may not have money, but you don't want him calling upon family resources. For instance, was he cut off for some reason? Did he embarrass the family? Is he a bastard who was discreetly recognized after his father's death?

However, as noted, this title will vary by region. In Thay, the same nobles will always want to be referred to as Daeron and Daeronness, unless they are red wizards or have some other more important title. Calimshan has a dizzying array of titles.

It all gets a lot more dizzying whenever you actually talk about landed nobles who rule over sections of a country. In Thay, these are the Autharchs and Tharchions, and it is generally not a hereditary title. In Mulhorand, these people are the "Precepts" (and separately, wizards and priests are known as "Lord Wizard" or "Lord Priest" or "Lord High Wizard" for theurges in Thoth's religion or "Lord High Priest" for important priests). Then, some regions do Counties and Duchies... others do baronies and Duchies... some have Earldoms, etc...

Note: if it helps you any, I pulled this from TSR 9410 - Cormyr, on the crownsilvers. It may not be the latest information for the time of your campaign:

Crownsilver
The Crownsilvers, one of three royal families in Cormyr, confine their activities mainly to the Royal Court. Led by the authoritarian matriarch Kimba Crownsilver (N hf W3), the few remaining Crownsilvers rarely venture outside Crownsilver Castle in Suzail. A custodian, Maniol of Suzail (LN hm F4),tends the family#146;s large estate near town, but the
upkeep and staff consume almost all of the estate#146;s income. The vast Crownsilver family fortune is more than enough to support Crownsilver Castle in regal style.
Like the other royal families, the Crownsilvers automatically ally with King Azoun in any dispute.

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

Phillip aka Sleyvas
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rodrigoalcanza
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Posted - 19 Jan 2014 :  16:06:55  Show Profile Send rodrigoalcanza a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you ... thank you! Helped me a lot!
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