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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
[...] because of the perception that no one (other than a dwarf) would find a bearded woman attractive.

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Originally posted by Sluban

Of course nobody consider bearded woman attractive but also nobody consider monstrous and masculine females like half-orcs attractive. And they still exist(but I heard that they sometimes try to make them look more human than orc). But what is true? Beards are only anomaly in some female dwarfs? So why there are no option in modern games to give female dwarf a beard? As FR wiki account:

http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Dwarf

"Male dwarves are often bald and grow thick facial hair sometimes used to display social status. It is a common misconception that female dwarves (with the exception of some gold dwarves) also do this, who instead braid their long hair. This hair is often dark in hue, though among shield dwarves blond or red hair is just as common. Gold dwarves take the care of beards to an extreme, carefully oiling and grooming it, and in some cases even gold dwarven females grow beards."

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Some female dwarves of Faerūn can grow beards, too, often passing as males among the nondwarves of the surface lands. Dwarven women may choose to shave their beards to match human-style expectations of beauty, while others glory in luxurious plaited beards that match their hair or wear sharply cut goatees.

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Most dwarven females dress, walk and fight as males do, and have similar low-pitched, gruff, husky voices. Like males, they naturally grow beards, and only some shave. Dwarves of both sexes may trim, perfume, or even hang their beards with gems or gold ornaments. The latter is particularly true in the south, among surface-dwellers near the Rift.

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They wear their black to dark brown hair long, and males (and rarely females) sport long beards, carefully oiled and groomed.

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Originally posted by BEAST

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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
[...] because of the perception that no one (other than a dwarf) would find a bearded woman attractive.

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Hey, Salma Hayek as the Bearded Lady is still Salma Hayek!

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Originally posted by SirUrza

I always thought it was up to the individual dwarven female and that (unlike males) there was no shame in bearing beardless.

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Originally posted by Sluban

Of course nobody consider bearded woman attractive but also nobody consider monstrous and masculine females like half-orcs attractive. And they still exist(but I heard that they sometimes try to make them look more human than orc). But what is true? Beards are only anomaly in some female dwarfs? So why there are no option in modern games to give female dwarf a beard? As FR wiki account:

http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Dwarf

"Male dwarves are often bald and grow thick facial hair sometimes used to display social status. It is a common misconception that female dwarves (with the exception of some gold dwarves) also do this, who instead braid their long hair. This hair is often dark in hue, though among shield dwarves blond or red hair is just as common. Gold dwarves take the care of beards to an extreme, carefully oiling and grooming it, and in some cases even gold dwarven females grow beards."

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The FR wiki is wrong. Page 10 of the 3E FRCS:

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Some female dwarves of Faerūn can grow beards, too, often passing as males among the nondwarves of the surface lands. Dwarven women may choose to shave their beards to match human-style expectations of beauty, while others glory in luxurious plaited beards that match their hair or wear sharply cut goatees.

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Also, page 5 of the definitive source about Realmsian dwarves, FR11 Dwarves Deep, by none other than Ed Greenwood:

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Most dwarven females dress, walk and fight as males do, and have similar low-pitched, gruff, husky voices. Like males, they naturally grow beards, and only some shave. Dwarves of both sexes may trim, perfume, or even hang their beards with gems or gold ornaments. The latter is particularly true in the south, among surface-dwellers near the Rift.

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Even the 4E Forgotten Realms Player's Guide says it, on page 14:

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They wear their black to dark brown hair long, and males (and rarely females) sport long beards, carefully oiled and groomed.

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Originally posted by Markustay

So post-spellplague, feMale dwarves lost their beards?

Some form of radiation sickness, perhaps? I know the Spellplague made a lot of people physically ill.

{both RW and on Toril}

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Originally posted by TBeholder

13 replies on dwarven ladies' beards and still no mention of Haela Brightaxe?

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Originally posted by Kentinal

Well you run into the bug of that new canon replaces any prior print. It though clearly might be useful to indicate that which -4E Forgotten Realms Player's Guide- indicates for the Realms. Adding maybe some reference to prior editions.

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Originally posted by Sluban

So if they have ability to grow beards why in games like Neverwinter Online you can't give beard to female dwarf character? I remember that there was even description that "female dwarfs can't have facial hair" or something like that.

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Originally posted by Sluban

So why they didn't exclude female half-orcs and write "half-orcs can't be female"?

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Originally posted by sleyvas

Maybe some a-hole dwarves decided to "shame" some dwarf female who stood up against them by raping and shaving her, and in an act of community healing every other dwarf female shaved themselves and it became a trend.

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Originally posted by Markustay

I like the 'alchemical solution' theory - that works for me.

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Originally posted by Markustay

I like the 'alchemical solution' theory - that works for me.

IMG, I have it where, within their own communities, female dwarves proudly sport their beards, and their men appreciate them. When amongst other cultures - where most of us encounter female dwarves (like in Waterdeep) - they follow the local 'norms' for such things (because dwarves HATE being the 'center of attention', and greatly dislike being stared at). Thats my take, anyway.

Thus, IMG, all female dwarves can have beards, but you will probably never see one like that.

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Maybe some a-hole dwarves decided to "shame" some dwarf female who stood up against them by raping and shaving her, and in an act of community healing every other dwarf female shaved themselves and it became a trend.

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WOW

And I thought I was the master of the 'shock post'. Thats some heavy s*** right there. Very 'Ellen Jamesian' (from The World According to Garp).

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Originally posted by Ayrik

Agreed with ESdB ... I just can‘t imagine why in the Nine Hells anyone might think drow are attractive, but the unusual preponderance (some might say “invasion“) of drow in 3E-onwards lore seems to suggest that my anti-drow (aw, I confess, my anti-elven) bigotry is something of a minority.

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Originally posted by Lilianviaten



Dragons are very impressive and engaging creatures, but I just couldn't. I remember when Jarlaxle was sleeping with that dragon in "Road of the Patriarch", and Entreri was appalled by the idea. Even if she's disguised as a beautiful woman, the thought of her being able to consume me in her natural form would ruin any possible attraction.

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