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 When was Queen Filfaeril in her prime?
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Jeremy Grenemyer
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Posted - 02 Oct 2013 :  09:37:07  Show Profile Send Jeremy Grenemyer a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I'm curious to know your opinion on Queen Filfaeril of Cormyr.

Specifically, at what point/age in her life was she in her prime?

By "in her prime" I mean that point when she was most beautiful, most influential, most respected, most commanding and most active in Cormyrean politics.

I realize these traits can wax and wane over time, but taken as a whole when would you say she was at her best?

Before she was even married? After the death of her first child? Just before the war with Nalavarra? After the war? After her grandson took the throne?

Thanks in advance for any replies.

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_Jarlaxle_
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Posted - 02 Oct 2013 :  12:24:49  Show Profile Send _Jarlaxle_ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Damn, now I want to read thr cormyr series again...
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Markustay
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Posted - 02 Oct 2013 :  12:59:08  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think she was always 'a pretty girl', but it wasn't until she became older (mature) and was able to use her womanly assets to their full potential that she became 'dangerously beautiful'.

In other words, she was one of those females that was always attractive, but peaked late, like in her 40's to 50's (and it was just as much about pure 'sex appeal' as it was abut actual looks - a woman can do a lot just by knowing how to stand, when to turn her head, when to flip her hair, etc, etc... its an art).

You ever know a woman that walked into a room, and every head turned? And you can't even say she was the most physically attractive... it was just 'something' about her that commanded everyone's attention. Thats Filfaeril.

EDIT: IMO, of course.

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Edited by - Markustay on 02 Oct 2013 12:59:37
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Wooly Rupert
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I'm inclined to think that most beautiful and most influential were at different times.

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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I'm inclined to think that most beautiful and most influential were at different times.




quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I'm inclined to think that most beautiful and most influential were at different times.



Ok, ok ...down Hamster! We get that you really dig Queen Filfaeril

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Edited by - The Red Walker on 02 Oct 2013 14:09:59
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Garen Thal
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Posted - 02 Oct 2013 :  16:43:15  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Filfaeril was influential throughout her marriage, but the influence she carried differed. She was always beautiful, clever, insightful, and observant. When she was younger, this meant that sh was charming, and people saw her as a trophy wife that didn't understand the high-level politics around her, meaning that she witnessed conversations and meetings that she was able to share information with Azoun.

As folk were disabused of their notions of her lesser intellect--and make no mistake, Fee was smarter than Azoun and, in her own ways, at least as smart as Vangerdahast was--her influence shifted from a beautiful 'thing' to a dangerous woman. Filfaeril got what she wanted. She was queen of Cormyr. She was mother to the heir and wife to a powerful, respected, and well-loved king. She inspired the personal loyalty, if not the unrequited romantic love, of several nobles, knights, highknights, and war wizards. And more than all of that, she knew things, even before someone came to her to share information or ask for her favor.

For me, her period of greatest influence was between 1379 and 1384, when she was dowager, Alusair was still regent, and other influential women (Caladnei, Myrmeen, Laspeera, Tessaril Winter) made it clear that they were loyal to Filfaeril, even if they disagreed--which they seldom did, and never greatly or publicly. During those five years, immediately before Azoun V took the throne, her authority was almost unquestioned.

But hey, what do I know about Cormyr?
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Therise
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Posted - 02 Oct 2013 :  16:48:52  Show Profile Send Therise a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm curious... was there ever an artist's rendering of Queen Filfaeril?


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Jeremy Grenemyer
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Posted - 03 Oct 2013 :  05:21:45  Show Profile Send Jeremy Grenemyer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For me Filfaeril was in her prime when Azoun IV was king and Vangerdahast the Mage Royal.

Those two plus the queen formed a triumvirate of power that served to both elevate the three of them and to check the power of each of them, for the benefit of Cormyr.

I like Brian's point about Filfaeril's authority being near-absolute just before her grandson took the reigns of power, but at the same time I can't help but see her as being less than she used to be, because neither the current Mage Royal or the young king held the same kind of power and respect that their predecessors did.

Certainly a fun topic to think about.

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Edited by - Jeremy Grenemyer on 03 Oct 2013 05:22:52
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