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Dennis
Great Reader
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 Posted - 08 Oct 2013 : 03:56:41
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Paul (or Mod):
It may be best to put a spoiler warning in the title. I don't mind spoilers myself, but some do.
Anyway, in chapter five now. Really pity Brennus. Gerak somehow reminds me of Kaspar. |
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Firestorm
Senior Scribe
Canada
826 Posts |
Posted - 08 Oct 2013 : 15:08:13
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| I started a separate review thread with a spoiler warn. |
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PaulSKemp
Forgotten Realms Author
808 Posts |
Posted - 08 Oct 2013 : 16:28:28
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All,
First, thank you. I'm delighted so many of you have enjoyed the book.
Second, it's somewhat difficult for me to comment in a thread like this. I don't generally like to get involved in review threads (which this has kind of turned into) as I think the author's virtual presence can sometimes make things awkward.
So I'm withdrawing from this particular thread, but if you have a question about the book, would you mind asking in my Q&A thread? Happy to answer. :-)
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skychrome
Senior Scribe
713 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2013 : 01:59:43
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Originally posted by jornan
Finished it on the weekend. A Really great book. A few notes:
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When is the next one? Godborn was amazing, but so much of it was spent introducing and developing new characters(nicely done btw), setting up the Sundering, and regrouping loose ends, that the next book should be able to get right into a new plot!
Thanks for not adverting spoilers for this post or posting spoilers in background color!!! Even though I did not even read it, just scrolling through this thread now made me know, that Rivalen and Brennus die, as the spoilers literally jump out at you.
Well, that makes it so much more exciting to start the book!   |
"You make an intriguing offer, one that is very tempting. It would seem that I have little alternative than to answer thusly: DISINTEGRATE!" Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick 625 |
Edited by - skychrome on 09 Oct 2013 02:02:21 |
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Firestorm
Senior Scribe
Canada
826 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2013 : 02:04:30
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Originally posted by skychrome
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Originally posted by jornan
Finished it on the weekend. A Really great book. A few notes:
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When is the next one? Godborn was amazing, but so much of it was spent introducing and developing new characters(nicely done btw), setting up the Sundering, and regrouping loose ends, that the next book should be able to get right into a new plot!
Thanks for not adverting spoilers for this post or posting spoilers in background color!!! Even though I did not even read it, just scrolling through this thread now made me know, that Rivalen and Brennus die, as the spoilers literally jump out at you.
Well, that makes it so much more exciting to start the book!
Yeah, I thought the rule was usually to have a thread with Spoiler warns in the title, so I made one, but nobody is using it lol.
I also thought we were going to get a book club scroll opened by chapters the other day :( |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2013 : 09:43:41
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Hence, my suggestion.
Mods, please? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2013 : 12:51:20
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Thanks, Wooly.
I'd be honest, as I said, I generally don't mind spoilers. But that one (about the two Tanthul brothers) by jornan is one heck of a spoiler.
I'm taking my precious time reading this book. It's one of those books that have to be savored rather than fast-read.
Now back to my reading . . . |
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jornan
Learned Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 10 Oct 2013 : 04:58:04
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| Really sorry about the spoilers folks, super lame and short sighted on my part. Don't really know what I was thinking. |
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CorellonsDevout
Great Reader
USA
2708 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2013 : 03:05:35
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| I just finished it today. I felt the ending was a bit rushed, but as a whole, I really enjoyed it. I hope we get to see more of Vasen and company. |
Sweet water and light laughter |
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skychrome
Senior Scribe
713 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2013 : 03:33:35
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Originally posted by jornan
Really sorry about the spoilers folks, super lame and short sighted on my part. Don't really know what I was thinking.
Alright, Rothé dung happens... |
"You make an intriguing offer, one that is very tempting. It would seem that I have little alternative than to answer thusly: DISINTEGRATE!" Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick 625 |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
1632 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2013 : 03:58:57
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| What is Paul's Q&A thread? |
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skychrome
Senior Scribe
713 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2013 : 04:07:47
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Originally posted by Gyor
What is Paul's Q&A thread?
It is at the Chamber of Sages:
http://forum.candlekeep.com/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=30 |
"You make an intriguing offer, one that is very tempting. It would seem that I have little alternative than to answer thusly: DISINTEGRATE!" Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick 625 |
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Caolin
Senior Scribe
769 Posts |
Posted - 11 Oct 2013 : 07:47:01
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| I enjoyed it and I felt satisfied with the outcome. But I felt that it was really short. Did anyone else get that feeling? It probably could have gone another 2-3 chapters and fleshed out the story a bit more. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 13 Oct 2013 : 16:32:40
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Finished The Godborn. Totally loved it. Worth the four-year wait.
Well done, Paul! |
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Vaeldroth
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 15 Oct 2013 : 09:17:07
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| Decided to pass on this book with the main character being part-shade. I didn't enjoy any of the shadowfell aspect (even the dumb name) of the recent Realms books, and was glad to see there wasn't too much of it in The Companions. |
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Firestorm
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 15 Oct 2013 : 11:11:57
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Originally posted by Vaeldroth
Decided to pass on this book with the main character being part-shade. I didn't enjoy any of the shadowfell aspect (even the dumb name) of the recent Realms books, and was glad to see there wasn't too much of it in The Companions.
Dare I ask which books you read previous? All of Paul's work with shade has been amazing |
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Vaeldroth
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 15 Oct 2013 : 22:55:57
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Originally posted by Firestorm
Dare I ask which books you read previous? All of Paul's work with shade has been amazing
The books I have read previously are:
All of the Drizzt novels up through The Ghost King, and most of Gauntlgrym
The Finder's Stone series
Pool of Radiance
Darkwalker on Moonshae
War of the Spider Queen series
Realms of Valor
Realms of the Underdark
Road of the Patriarch
Promise of the Witch King
Starlight and Shadows series
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 15 Oct 2013 : 23:17:54
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I haven't read The Twilight War, so I suppose I should read that first, eh?
I can't even 'enjoy' the spoilers, LOL, because I have no idea who you guys are talking about. |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Firestorm
Senior Scribe
Canada
826 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2013 : 00:27:26
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Originally posted by Vaeldroth
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Originally posted by Firestorm
Dare I ask which books you read previous? All of Paul's work with shade has been amazing
The books I have read previously are:
All of the Drizzt novels up through The Ghost King, and most of Gauntlgrym
The Finder's Stone series
Pool of Radiance
Darkwalker on Moonshae
War of the Spider Queen series
Realms of Valor
Realms of the Underdark
Road of the Patriarch
Promise of the Witch King
Starlight and Shadows series
I highly suggest reading the Erevis Cale trilogy and the twilight war trilogy. because #1, you might not get this book if you did not read those first and #2, they are likely the best realms trilogies I have read(And the Haunted Lands) in the past 15 years.
Overall, the books you have read do not seem to touch on Shadowfell at all. Which is only a recent creation. I agree, dumb name. Was better when it was just the plane of shadow.
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Vaeldroth
Acolyte
USA
25 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2013 : 02:52:45
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Originally posted by Firestorm
I highly suggest reading the Erevis Cale trilogy and the twilight war trilogy. because #1, you might not get this book if you did not read those first and #2, they are likely the best realms trilogies I have read(And the Haunted Lands) in the past 15 years.
Overall, the books you have read do not seem to touch on Shadowfell at all. Which is only a recent creation. I agree, dumb name. Was better when it was just the plane of shadow.
The topic of the plane of shadow doesn't sell me at all. I generally avoid any of the books that have any focus on extraplanar travel or beings, as I just can't get into them for that very reason. I'm going to be skipping The Adversary as well as it's about a tiefling. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Oct 2013 : 06:34:04
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I don't think Shadowfell is a dumb name. I think of fell in this usage as the adjective meaning "malevolent, sinister."
Did you read the Neverwinter saga? I didn't, but I understand as much that Shade's troops played major roles in it. So . . . |
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Firestorm
Senior Scribe
Canada
826 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2013 : 11:56:46
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Originally posted by Vaeldroth
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Originally posted by Firestorm
I highly suggest reading the Erevis Cale trilogy and the twilight war trilogy. because #1, you might not get this book if you did not read those first and #2, they are likely the best realms trilogies I have read(And the Haunted Lands) in the past 15 years.
Overall, the books you have read do not seem to touch on Shadowfell at all. Which is only a recent creation. I agree, dumb name. Was better when it was just the plane of shadow.
The topic of the plane of shadow doesn't sell me at all. I generally avoid any of the books that have any focus on extraplanar travel or beings, as I just can't get into them for that very reason. I'm going to be skipping The Adversary as well as it's about a tiefling.
To each his own then. |
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Firestorm
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 16 Oct 2013 : 12:03:05
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Originally posted by Dennis
I don't think Shadowfell is a dumb name. I think of fell in this usage as the adjective meaning "malevolent, sinister."
Did you read the Neverwinter saga? I didn't, but I understand as much that Shade's troops played major roles in it. So . . .
Not really. He used shade beings and low level thayan underlings with a cameo of szass tam. But he really did not use shade troops in the manner we are accustomed to.
But with good reason. The big boys of shade and szass tam would wipe the floor with all the companions and jarlaxle's crew so it is counterproductive for them to get involved
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Oct 2013 : 13:48:22
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But shades, nonetheless, right? And judging by Vaeldroth's tone, he avoids all manner of shades and anything related to the Shadowfell. |
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Entromancer
Senior Scribe
USA
388 Posts |
Posted - 17 Oct 2013 : 00:43:02
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Originally posted by Vaeldroth
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Originally posted by Firestorm
I highly suggest reading the Erevis Cale trilogy and the twilight war trilogy. because #1, you might not get this book if you did not read those first and #2, they are likely the best realms trilogies I have read(And the Haunted Lands) in the past 15 years.
Overall, the books you have read do not seem to touch on Shadowfell at all. Which is only a recent creation. I agree, dumb name. Was better when it was just the plane of shadow.
The topic of the plane of shadow doesn't sell me at all. I generally avoid any of the books that have any focus on extraplanar travel or beings, as I just can't get into them for that very reason. I'm going to be skipping The Adversary as well as it's about a tiefling.
Paul focuses more on the characters than he does their superficial uniqueness as extraplanar beings. You are really missing out if you skip his works on the basis of disliking extraplanar elements. |
"...the will is everything. The will to act."--Ra's Al Ghul
"Suffering builds character."--Talia Al Ghul |
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Lilianviaten
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 17 Oct 2013 : 07:19:27
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Originally posted by Vaeldroth
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Originally posted by Firestorm
I highly suggest reading the Erevis Cale trilogy and the twilight war trilogy. because #1, you might not get this book if you did not read those first and #2, they are likely the best realms trilogies I have read(And the Haunted Lands) in the past 15 years.
Overall, the books you have read do not seem to touch on Shadowfell at all. Which is only a recent creation. I agree, dumb name. Was better when it was just the plane of shadow.
The topic of the plane of shadow doesn't sell me at all. I generally avoid any of the books that have any focus on extraplanar travel or beings, as I just can't get into them for that very reason. I'm going to be skipping The Adversary as well as it's about a tiefling.
Far be it from me to criticize your taste, but you're making a mistake if you don't read the "Brimstone Angels" series. The writing is excellent, and the characters are all compelling. I would say the same of Paul Kemp's books. Both Evans and Kemp display very moving family interactions, as well as strong moral dilemmas.
I don't usually watch romance films, but when I step outside the box and try them, I occasionally find one that's beautiful. Neither Kemp nor Evans may wind up being your favorite writers in the Realms, but both are worth your time to try (at least 1 book each). |
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Tanthalas
Senior Scribe
Portugal
508 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2013 : 19:16:45
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| My copy finally arrived today. Now I just need some free time to read it. |
Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage". |
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The Masked Mage
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 22 Oct 2013 : 06:41:23
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The topic of the plane of shadow doesn't sell me at all. I generally avoid any of the books that have any focus on extraplanar travel or beings, as I just can't get into them for that very reason. I'm going to be skipping The Adversary as well as it's about a tiefling.
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I agree that all the focus on planar beings is less interesting, at least to me, than just everyday people in fantastic situations. I think they decided to work planars into the mix as part of the demand for more PC races and it has just gone on and on.
That said, I've liked all (8? 9?) of Paul's "shadow books" and this is another in that series. If you haven't then you should start with the earliest ones... The books/characters/relationships all build on each other so you're missing a lot if you start with the newer ones. |
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The Masked Mage
Great Reader
USA
2420 Posts |
Posted - 22 Oct 2013 : 06:47:58
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Originally posted by jornan
Finished it on the weekend. A Really great book. A few notes:
Orsin is another great character and I really want to know more about his reincarnations.
I agree... I would love to see a aware/unaware/semi-aware reincarnation system developed fully. The only thing like it in the Realms I've seen was from Secrets of the Magister. |
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THE GODBORN releases today (SPOILERS!)
