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Copper Elven Vampire
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 25 Jun 2013 : 18:25:04
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I am looking for a generic shade NPC for my PC's to battle. CR should be above 10. 3ED or 3.5ED only please. Race don't matter. I look forward to any help and any posts. Thank you. CEV.
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lordsknight185
Learned Scribe
USA
100 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jun 2013 : 20:30:36
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quote: Originally posted by Copper Elven Vampire
Race don't matter.
Im confused. If you want a shade npc...wouldnt the race be shade? |
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Copper Elven Vampire
Master of Realmslore
1078 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jun 2013 : 22:01:23
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quote: Originally posted by lordsknight185
quote: Originally posted by Copper Elven Vampire
Race don't matter.
Im confused. If you want a shade npc...wouldnt the race be shade?
A Shade is a Template in 3ED and 3.5ED
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lordsknight185
Learned Scribe
USA
100 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jun 2013 : 22:16:13
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quote: Originally posted by Copper Elven Vampire
quote: Originally posted by lordsknight185
quote: Originally posted by Copper Elven Vampire
Race don't matter.
Im confused. If you want a shade npc...wouldnt the race be shade?
A Shade is a Template in 3ED and 3.5ED
Yes I knew that. I apologize, I thought it was a human-only template, but I rechecked FRCS and realized it was any humanoid. I would love to play around with encounter creations, haven't done that in a while. But as-is your request opens up a wide spectrum of options. anything to narrow what your looking for a bit? especially a specific CR?
EDIT: Infact, looking at the shade template in the FRCS, there is a sample shade. Leevoth, shade captain who is a human/shade wiz3/ftr8 (CR13) |
Edited by - lordsknight185 on 25 Jun 2013 22:20:16 |
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Copper Elven Vampire
Master of Realmslore
1078 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jun 2013 : 00:07:57
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Yeah, I seen that, but didn't want to fight Leevoth himself. Just a generic shade. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36798 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jun 2013 : 01:00:50
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quote: Originally posted by Copper Elven Vampire
Yeah, I seen that, but didn't want to fight Leevoth himself. Just a generic shade.
Slap a new name on him, bump him up or down a level or two, and boom, you have your own generic Shade.
Heck, all you really have to do is change his name and how you use him, and you're golden. It's pretty unlikely any of your players would ever know. |
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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore
1847 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jun 2013 : 11:25:18
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quote: Slap a new name on him, bump him up or down a level or two, and boom, you have your own generic Shade.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I would like to present "The Lazy DM's Guide to DMing"
I wrote that book btw lol. |
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lordsknight185
Learned Scribe
USA
100 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jun 2013 : 13:06:33
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quote: Originally posted by The Arcanamach
quote: Slap a new name on him, bump him up or down a level or two, and boom, you have your own generic Shade.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I would like to present "The Lazy DM's Guide to DMing"
I wrote that book btw lol.
If you are custom building every single throwaway npc in your campaign, your DMing wrong. big difference between "Lazy" and "Why am I spending three hours on this?" >.> |
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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore
1847 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jun 2013 : 14:27:52
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Heh, just a joke. In my gaming I've taken plagiarism to all new levels...it's become an art form. |
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36798 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jun 2013 : 17:44:45
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quote: Originally posted by The Arcanamach
Heh, just a joke. In my gaming I've taken plagiarism to all new levels...it's become an art form.
I don't recall what it was in, but I recall reading in a 2E book where it described taking some existing critter's stats, and simply changing the appearance of the critter, to throw off players... Since then, I've been a big fan of the "file off the serial numbers" approach. I see it as a wise use of available resources. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 26 Jun 2013 : 18:29:12
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SKR recently wrote a PF supplement that does that: File Off the Serial Numbers. |
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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 27 Jun 2013 : 08:07:34
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I remember reading something like that Wooly and began doing the same thing years ago.
Hawkins, that link gives examples of changing monsters into an NPC with class levels. In the old article Wooly mentions, you change the appearance of a monster while keeping its stats. For instance, making a 'new' monster that looks like, say, an albino gorilla with demonic features that, for all intents and purposes, is a troll (in so far as the stats are concerned). |
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