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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 06 Jun 2013 :  16:21:28  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I see that passage about the Kingdom of Many-Arrows. It seems to be a victim of 4e's black-and-white, no-nuance-in-the-world skinning of things. The Many-Arrows of my campaign is much more interesting.

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars"
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silverwolfer
Senior Scribe

789 Posts

Posted - 06 Jun 2013 :  17:18:34  Show Profile Send silverwolfer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I really don't think they are a victim of that, I think it just shows that, Many arrows was a visionary, and due to a lack of strong leadership and the various infighting that has happen, including the clerics of grummish trying to undermind what has been established. So as far as fantasy goes that is a pretty typical arch type of great 1st generation king, that is undermind and lost in further generations. It isn't huge but I think they tried to apply that, but you think with Many Arrows being an Exarch, he would hold a stronger sway in how the clerics of grummish work .
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore

USA
1714 Posts

Posted - 06 Jun 2013 :  18:15:20  Show Profile  Visit BEAST's Homepage Send BEAST a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by silverwolfer

[...] but you think with Many Arrows being an Exarch, he would hold a stronger sway in how the clerics of grummish work.

That's what Erik is talking about. He has worked out a very intriguing scheme by which Obould could have successfully maintained stable relations with other nations in the North, giving the appearance of peace, while secretly playing the long game in terms of serving the chaotic evil ways of Gruumsh. Orcs don't have to be simple evil, anymore. They could've been complex evil, if WOTC had let them.

"'You don't know my history,' he said dryly."
--Drizzt Do'Urden (The Pirate King, Part 1: Chapter 2)

<"Comprehensive Chronology of R.A. Salvatore Forgotten Realms Works">
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Tarlyn
Learned Scribe

USA
315 Posts

Posted - 07 Jun 2013 :  11:15:39  Show Profile Send Tarlyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Technically speaking, Ed Greenwood presents Elminster's Forgotten Realms is a 4e resource. That is easily the best Realm's product released in the last five years.

Tarlyn Embersun
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist

USA
12194 Posts

Posted - 09 Jun 2013 :  23:08:47  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hmmm, so just wondering was there any feywild or shadowfell articles that were really groundbreaking? That was the one thing that caught my eye at the outset of 4E was that they seemed like they really wanted to develop those "worlds".

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

Phillip aka Sleyvas
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silverwolfer
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Posted - 10 Jun 2013 :  02:09:13  Show Profile Send silverwolfer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
not sure about shadowfell, but look at the wilds book set, they cover allot of feywild things, as far as it affects things coming into the prime.
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