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Joebing
Learned Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 30 May 2013 : 21:40:56
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Does anyone know anything about this, other what is in the library here, or is it really as rare as Amazon and eBay would lead one to believe? This is the only published Realms product I do not own pre 4th ed, in either pdf or hard copy.
I know the basis of the catacombs series, but are there NPC's? Is this canon?
Mod edit: After many years, I just noticed this wasn't in the most suitable section of our shelves. 
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 30 Nov 2020 11:50:21
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 30 May 2013 : 21:58:07
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Technically, I think it has to be canon because it bears the logo, and I've never heard it come under the 'apocryphal' heading the Double Diamond series did.
If you are asking if it was any good - I liked it. Played through it once, and it was fun. I can't recall how much 'new Realmslore' was contained therein, but it felt like I was running all over (and under) Waterdeep.
I had photocopied the last page (the one you needed to write on) just so I wouldn't destroy the book in any way. Lot of good that did me. |
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Joebing
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 30 May 2013 : 22:06:21
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Originally posted by Markustay
Technically, I think it has to be canon because it bears the logo, and I've never heard it come under the 'apocryphal' heading the Double Diamond series did.
If you are asking if it was any good - I liked it. Played through it once, and it was fun. I can't recall how much 'new Realmslore' was contained therein, but it felt like I was running all over (and under) Waterdeep.
I had photocopied the last page (the one you needed to write on) just so I wouldn't destroy the book in any way. Lot of good that did me.
Thanks Markustay. Trying to find a copy is a pain. Sorry to hear about yours. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 30 May 2013 : 22:36:32
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There are references to it in Volo's Guide to Waterdeep.
I've bought it off eBay at least twice (like Markus, I lost my first copy in a fire). I don't see it on there often, but I wasn't aware it was all that rare -- just long out of print. |
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Joebing
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 31 May 2013 : 01:24:55
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
There are references to it in Volo's Guide to Waterdeep.
I've bought it off eBay at least twice (like Markus, I lost my first copy in a fire). I don't see it on there often, but I wasn't aware it was all that rare -- just long out of print.
It is, compared to other pre d20 books, pretty hard to find and expensive when you do. I found 2 on eBay and a few on Amazon. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Joebing
Learned Scribe
USA
202 Posts |
Posted - 31 May 2013 : 12:21:24
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I've not spent more than $20 on any of the copies I bought. Usually less.
All the ones I keep finding run around $40, which is why I say expensive. I have a lot of pre-3e stuff, but I haven't spent more than $20 on any of it - Hell, I picked up a complete Waterdeep box set for $15. But this adventure... |
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coach
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 05 Jun 2013 : 00:22:30
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| yes it was one of the last items i needed to complete set and i think i ended up just biting the bullet and forking out $27 |
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Joebing
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 05 Jun 2013 : 00:59:55
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Originally posted by coach
yes it was one of the last items i needed to complete set and i think i ended up just biting the bullet and forking out $27
Looks like I might have to as well. Have found just about every other TSR product in a pdf, including one of the trading card sets. Not this or any of the others from that series, except Gnomes-100...
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Joebing
Learned Scribe
USA
202 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jun 2013 : 07:52:19
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
There's a copy on eBay right now, listed at $5.
Clicky!
Woo Hoo!
Thanks Wooly! |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jun 2013 : 18:26:40
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
There's a copy on eBay right now, listed at $5.
Clicky!
Still no bids, with less than 8 hours left. Time to step up, if you're interested in this one.  |
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Joebing
Learned Scribe
USA
202 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jun 2013 : 00:26:23
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
There's a copy on eBay right now, listed at $5.
Clicky!
Still no bids, with less than 8 hours left. Time to step up, if you're interested in this one.
:) Thanks on the heads up on that. Got it! |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 28 Jun 2013 : 01:15:53
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| Excellent, I was hoping you were the one that got it. When it was getting to the last day with no bids, I was more than a little tempted to go for it, myself! |
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xaeyruudh
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 28 Jun 2013 : 03:53:46
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| I was thinking about it too. In the end my distaste for ebay won out. Grats Joebing! |
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Joebing
Learned Scribe
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 29 Jun 2013 : 19:36:07
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You might be surprised at how much you are really missing, lol. I find Realmslore in the strangest places (like the Spelljammer module Greyspace).
I hear from a lot of authors that a good 25-33% of what they write for an article or sourcebook never gets used - the infamous 'cutting room floor'. I have been privy to a couple of 'full versions', and its a damn shame so much is lost over the years.
In the case of Ed-generated FR lore, that figure is probably closer to 90-95% - all sparkling gems the world may never get to enjoy.  |
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Joebing
Learned Scribe
USA
202 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2013 : 19:48:20
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Originally posted by Markustay
You might be surprised at how much you are really missing, lol. I find Realmslore in the strangest places (like the Spelljammer module Greyspace).
I hear from a lot of authors that a good 25-33% of what they write for an article or sourcebook never gets used - the infamous 'cutting room floor'. I have been privy to a couple of 'full versions', and its a damn shame so much is lost over the years.
In the case of Ed-generated FR lore, that figure is probably closer to 90-95% - all sparkling gems the world may never get to enjoy.
Oh I know. Cutting room floor stuff is stuff I do not count in that total. I did go through everything from Ed's early Dragon submissions on, including Spelljammer (I have a complete TSR/WotC library on my computer). You are one of the lucky ones who gets ahold of 'full versions'. Really want to get to GenCon for the Dragonspear module, but odds are its not going to happen. |
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Joebing
Learned Scribe
USA
202 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jul 2013 : 21:19:15
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*INSANE LAUGHING*
Forgot (and I cannot figure out how) about Living City...the actual tournament modules. Have the Living Jungle ones, but forgot about Living City until now. Well, it can't be harder than LG to find. |
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Aerandor
Acolyte
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Posted - 20 Oct 2014 : 05:15:03
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| I know his may be resurrecting a long dead topic, but I was wondering if anyone with a copy of this has an online scan of the perforated page (the character sheets and time record)? I've got the original book and been dying to play through it, but the perforated page is gone (inherited this from my older brother, btw). Haven't been able to find any scan of it anywhere and since that's the only thing I'm missing I was hoping to avoid having to buy the book again. Thanks for any help! |
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Joebing
Learned Scribe
USA
202 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2014 : 23:05:41
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| I may be able to scan this page at work late this week...PM me your email and I shall send it. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 22 Oct 2014 : 03:41:29
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Let's try to remember that announcing/conducting scans of copyrighted material can land this site in some pretty precarious legal-waters. So please refrain from discussing this kind of exchange publicly.
Thank you. |
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Joebing
Learned Scribe
USA
202 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2014 : 20:02:51
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Sorry Sage. My bad
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2014 : 23:27:37
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| I saw another copy on eBay either this morn or yesterday; I think it was $15. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2014 : 23:32:10
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You know what just dawned on me?
It would be kinda cool if WotC (or soeone with their permission) turned this into an online thing - I think it would work even better then the original format.
You just make your choices into Hotlinks - less able to accidentally 'cheat' (see things you shouldn't) that way. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2014 : 05:43:42
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Steve Jackson has done it with his Sorcery! books. Two apps released so far and I've enjoyed both.
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DaWizDM
Acolyte
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Posted - 09 Feb 2017 : 20:08:21
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| Does anyone know if this has ever been made available for purchase online again? I couldn't find it with a lot of the old modules that are now available. Can't find a soft copy at all. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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KanzenAU
Senior Scribe
Australia
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 10 Feb 2017 : 00:53:22
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I got mine years ago for a reasonable amount. Very large, complex plot. Never really looked at it for lore mining but will one day.
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TSR 8422 Knight of the Living Dead
