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John Daker
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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 Posted - 11 Jan 2021 : 22:46:11
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Hm. Not what I was expecting.
I will comment further when there's more info to comment on. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 11 Jan 2021 : 23:16:48
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The mysteries of Candlekeep are going on display?
I guess I'd better clean my room. And my workdesk. And my shelves. I don't know how they all got so messy. I blame Alaundo, that guy just never stops partying. |
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keftiu
Senior Scribe
656 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2021 : 03:10:02
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| Curious to see what we get here; you can sneak a lot of neat info into seventeen adventures. |
4e fangirl. Here to queer up the Realms. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2021 : 03:58:52
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Originally posted by Ayrik
The mysteries of Candlekeep are going on display?
I guess I'd better clean my room. And my workdesk. And my shelves. I don't know how they all got so messy. I blame Alaundo, that guy just never stops partying.
Nobody mention the Calishite dancing girls! |
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farinal
Learned Scribe
Turkey
270 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2021 : 04:29:03
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| It has the Candlekeep. It had mysteries and it is an anthology. Instant buy for me! At least I am able to run the small adventures when I can find the time, but running the long campaign books is just impossible for me at this time in my life so I am happy with the anthology book! |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2021 : 07:28:14
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Such "small adventure" anthologies have been a feature of TSR/WotC from the very first. Their quality could best be described as "uneven". Those set in the Realms have featured what I call 'bookmark lore' ("This adventure is set in Arabel ...") and/or "nod of the head lore" ("Bilbos is a wizard of the Arcane Brotherhood"). I don't need any FR adventures so it's a pass from me, but I am intrigued as to whether the title means the adventures will actually be set in Candlekeep. If so, then ... umm, yeah.
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4441 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2021 : 12:31:38
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Both Tales of the Yawning Portal and Lost Tales of Myth Drannor were, IMO, very decent products with the latter more so than the former.
I hope these aren't just rehashed adventures from previous Editions and Settings plopped into the Realms, but more story-driven adventures of various levels that hop around the Realms. |
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John Daker
Seeker
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2021 : 15:44:53
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Official announcement probably coming today, but in the meantime the marketing copy has also leaked.
I’ve reproduced it in its entirety below, but the good news is that this doesn’t seem quite like Tales from the Yawning Portal or Ghosts of Saltmarsh, where the adventures don’t actually all take place in the Realms or Greyhawk, respectively; instead, it sounds like all of these are actually set in the Realms.
Also: poster map of Candlekeep!
Here’s the leaked text:
Candlekeep attracts scholars like a flame attracts moths. Historians, sages, and others who crave knowledge flock to this library fortress to peruse its vast collection of books, scribbled into which are the answers to the mysteries that bedevil them. Many of these books contain their own mysteries—each one a doorway to adventure. Dare you cross that threshold?
· 17 mystery-themed D&D adventures, each tied to a book discovered in the famed library fortress of Candlekeep
· Easy to run as stand-alone mini adventures or to drop into your home campaign
· Adventures span play from levels 1 to 16
· Includes a full poster map of Candlekeep, plus detailed descriptions of the various locations, characters, and creatures that reside within it
· Introduces a variety of Dungeons & Dragons monsters, items, and non-player characters (NPCs)
Candlekeep Mysteries is a collection of seventeen short, stand-alone D&D adventures designed for characters of levels 1–16. Each adventure begins with the discovery of a book, and each book is the key to a door behind which danger and glory await. These adventures can be run as one-shot games, plugged into an existing Forgotten Realms campaign, or adapted for other campaign settings. This book also includes a poster map of the library fortress and detailed descriptions of Candlekeep and its inhabitants. |
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John Daker
Seeker
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2021 : 20:28:38
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Extensive story, with interviews about the book (Chris Perkins and several of the adventure writers) here: https://io9.gizmodo.com/dungeons-dragons-new-adventure-book-brings-fresh-voic-1846037449.
Highlights of interest to us here:
- A "few" of the adventures are set within Candlekeep.
- Candlekeep is also given a full write-up, presumably much like Saltmarsh in the anthology book Ghosts of Saltmarsh.
- One adventure is set in Tashalar! |
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deserk
Learned Scribe
Norway
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Posted - 12 Jan 2021 : 22:56:02
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I have to say it is a smart idea for WotC to make an adventure book consisting of several small adventures since then they can work as base for DMs to start campaign with (especially useful for new DMs) and then later the DMs can customize and expand it to their own needs. Would be a cool idea if Paizo did something like that with Pathfinder.
Though what was spoken about in that article didn't seem that interesting to me at least. The only thing of interest is the potential of seeing more of Tashalar, but I doubt we'll get an article about it's current state in 5e Realms. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2021 : 02:10:21
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I think that WotC should send some preview copies to scribes here. I nominate myself as one recipient.  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2021 : 02:41:35
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Just when I said I wasn't going to buy any more 5e products something comes out with a map of Candlekeep...
Never say never folks. |
The Old Grey Box and AD&D for me! |
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
5695 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2021 : 08:51:59
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I think that WotC should send some preview copies to scribes here. I nominate myself as one recipient.
Well met
It would be extremely rude of them not to, my furry friend  After all, we have been keeping the Realms alive and supporting for over twenty years 
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An Introduction to Candlekeep - by Ed Greenwood
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Jan 2021 : 08:56:06
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Well met
Remember, fellow scribes, in anticipation of this upcoming tome, you can satisfy yourself with the amazing piece of lore written by Ed Greenwood especially for this Candlekeep website. What was to be a mere couple of sentences ended up as several pages, to which we were humbled and honoured to receive. Forever grateful to Ed for taking the time and effort to produce this.
You can access it from the home page, Alaundo's Library page or simply click here. |
Alaundo
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
11829 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2021 : 13:48:10
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Originally posted by John Daker
Extensive story, with interviews about the book (Chris Perkins and several of the adventure writers) here: https://io9.gizmodo.com/dungeons-dragons-new-adventure-book-brings-fresh-voic-1846037449.
Highlights of interest to us here:
- A "few" of the adventures are set within Candlekeep.
- Candlekeep is also given a full write-up, presumably much like Saltmarsh in the anthology book Ghosts of Saltmarsh.
- One adventure is set in Tashalar!
Yep, that is an interesting thing, because it does answer to a degree one question I've been wondering about. In 4e, the map showed the area that should have been Tashluta as more than likely gone (as it did to a lot of the Chultan peninsula). The question becomes, did it go away (i.e. to Abeir) as so many other places that are coming back, did it sink (which would be harder to recover from), or are they going to say "oops, the map was just messed up and it was always still on Toril".
I'm personally interested in this one, because I was doing something with the region to try and save it by having parts of its population relocating elsewhere while on Abeir and then opening up the idea that it might then be a place that people want to return to and free from the control of those who moved in.
Still, the book does sound interesting, especially the stuff in candlekeep itself. While there were some issues with Rime of the Frostmaiden, overall I liked it. I just hope they don't make the adventures so generic that they really don't fit Toril (I get that they want to please a lot of folks, but it does irk me when they use a region and don't use that region truly). |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
Phillip aka Sleyvas |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
11829 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2021 : 14:17:02
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Originally posted by Alaundo
Well met
Remember, fellow scribes, in anticipation of this upcoming tome, you can satisfy yourself with the amazing piece of lore written by Ed Greenwood especially for this Candlekeep website. What was to be a mere couple of sentences ended up as several pages, to which we were humbled and honoured to receive. Forever grateful to Ed for taking the time and effort to produce this.
You can access it from the home page, Alaundo's Library page or simply click here.
Alaundo.... this is SOO much a show of how much there is buried in this site. I've been coming here for years and had never read this. Thank you, and most assuredly thank you Ed. That being said.... darn you both, because I was trying to get something done and now I'm reading this. |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
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John Daker
Seeker
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2021 : 14:17:43
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I'm certain that most of these adventures were not designed from the ground up with a particular region of Toril in mind. But I have hope that for each adventure or adventure idea, Perkins found a place (or places) in Faerûn where that adventure would fit, and then perhaps made small changes to the adventure to strengthen that fit.
On a different note, I wonder what the poster map of Candlekeep will be like—especially whether it will be compatible with the gorgeous map included in Elminster’s Candlekeep Compendium. Now that I think of it, I wonder whether it actually will be that map . . . |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
11829 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2021 : 18:37:04
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| Just wondering, since I know there was recently a DM's Guild product that focused on Candlekeep as well maybe 6 months back, are any of them involved with this? I believe it had a map of candlekeep as well. |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
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PattPlays
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 13 Jan 2021 : 22:07:44
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Wotc is reading my campaign bible...
I chopped up OOTA and set my party up to go to Candlekeep over a year ago. I found myself stunned when I realized I had made a pathway from the adventure location I randomly placed in the Delimbyr Vale to lead the party to Loudwater, where I found out there was a Harper teleportation Network that was inside Storm King's Thunder. THAT would lead them to Waterdeep, where I realized I already sent a background NPC to look for the Promenade of the Dark Maiden. Then I realized the entirety of Dungeon of the Mad Mage existed detailing that general area nearby with Skullport and the layers beneath. Then I look down the pathway to candlekeep and the most likely next major destination is Baldur's Gate- where there had just been released an adventure there as well. Now, through a route through almost every 5e realms module, we're going to arrive at candlekeep and have an entire book of modules right there?
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perlmugp
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 14 Jan 2021 : 02:03:32
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| With the mention of each adventure being tied to a book found in Candlekeep, I am hoping the book and corresponding adventure hook are fairly lore heavy. I'm afraid it will be more along the lines of "Hey someone stole our book! Can you get it back?" |
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John Daker
Seeker
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jan 2021 : 04:46:31
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Originally posted by sleyvas
Just wondering, since I know there was recently a DM's Guild product that focused on Candlekeep as well maybe 6 months back, are any of them involved with this? I believe it had a map of candlekeep as well.
Yes, that is Elminster's Candlekeep Compendium, and it's pretty great. I don't know whether any of the contributors to that release (including Ed Greenwood!) have also worked on Candlekeep Mysteries, but I did take the liberty of contacting the cartographer who made the map for that release; he said he was not involved in the new book, so the poster map in the upcoming WotC book is going to be different from the map in ECC. |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
11829 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jan 2021 : 14:24:49
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Originally posted by John Daker
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Originally posted by sleyvas
Just wondering, since I know there was recently a DM's Guild product that focused on Candlekeep as well maybe 6 months back, are any of them involved with this? I believe it had a map of candlekeep as well.
Yes, that is Elminster's Candlekeep Compendium, and it's pretty great. I don't know whether any of the contributors to that release (including Ed Greenwood!) have also worked on Candlekeep Mysteries, but I did take the liberty of contacting the cartographer who made the map for that release; he said he was not involved in the new book, so the poster map in the upcoming WotC book is going to be different from the map in ECC.
In some ways, that does kind of suck, in that I feel for the folks that may have poured some blood, sweat, and tears into that product only to have it possibly overwritten. |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
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John Daker
Seeker
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jan 2021 : 14:58:37
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Originally posted by sleyvas
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Originally posted by John Daker
Yes, that is Elminster's Candlekeep Compendium, and it's pretty great. I don't know whether any of the contributors to that release (including Ed Greenwood!) have also worked on Candlekeep Mysteries, but I did take the liberty of contacting the cartographer who made the map for that release; he said he was not involved in the new book, so the poster map in the upcoming WotC book is going to be different from the map in ECC.
In some ways, that does kind of suck, in that I feel for the folks that may have poured some blood, sweat, and tears into that product only to have it possibly overwritten.
If Candlekeep Mysteries does turn out to contradict Elminster’s Candlekeep Compendium in any significant way, then (unless I’m forgetting something) that would make ECC the highest-profile DM’s Guild product to date to be overwritten canonically by a later WotC release.
It would be unfortunate if this does happen, though it’s hard to imagine WotC changing anything at all in their book to fit a DM’s Guild product, even one with Ed’s direct involvement. Perhaps the creators of ECC would revise on their end to resolve discrepancies, if this can be done quickly and easily. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jan 2021 : 04:56:30
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Was always bound to happen. There was talk early on that WotC would be monitoring the DMs Guild for quality content with a view to adopting some/all of it and giving it the "official" imprimatur. I'm not aware of that happening even once. The Candlekeep product at the Guild was pretty good, so I can well imagine that its creators would be a bit glum about the prospect of their hard work being invalidated and/or unrecognised. It's happened to me and it's not fun.
-- George Krashos |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jan 2021 : 05:31:31
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Was always bound to happen. There was talk early on that WotC would be monitoring the DMs Guild for quality content with a view to adopting some/all of it and giving it the "official" imprimatur. I'm not aware of that happening even once.
I also thought it might be a way for them to scout talent... Has anyone that started on the DM's Guild gotten to work on an official WotC product? |
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keftiu
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 16 Jan 2021 : 06:09:02
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Was always bound to happen. There was talk early on that WotC would be monitoring the DMs Guild for quality content with a view to adopting some/all of it and giving it the "official" imprimatur. I'm not aware of that happening even once.
I also thought it might be a way for them to scout talent... Has anyone that started on the DM's Guild gotten to work on an official WotC product?
A number of this book’s contributors, I believe. |
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Renin
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 25 Jan 2021 : 15:39:56
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Originally posted by keftiu
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Was always bound to happen. There was talk early on that WotC would be monitoring the DMs Guild for quality content with a view to adopting some/all of it and giving it the "official" imprimatur. I'm not aware of that happening even once.
I also thought it might be a way for them to scout talent... Has anyone that started on the DM's Guild gotten to work on an official WotC product?
A number of this book’s contributors, I believe.
Actually, not a one, unless there are more writers that I didn't see when checking out the ECC. If I was greatly mistaken, then I rescind my comment. |
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Next WotC book: "Candlekeep Mysteries"
