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jones52j
Acolyte
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 Posted - 22 May 2013 : 19:30:52
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I'm creating a 4E "1480 DR" Human Scourge Warlock who is utlizing the Infernal Pact. I'm not super familiar with Baator around this timeline and now sure which devil/archdevil I should choose for my Pact.
I want my character to be somewhere between Good/Neutral. The Pact can be he offers souls in exchange for power. The souls can be acquired by evil creatures/men and funneled via his pact blade to whichever devil his pact is with.
Asmodeus or Mephistopheles seems like an obvious choice but possibly too far out of my characters league to have a pact with.
Any suggestion? Thank you
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 22 May 2013 : 19:59:36
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I am confused, a character good it would strike me as not doing a pack with an Evil creature, one neutral clearly might if the Evil of requirements of the pack is offset in such a way that the character can over all still be considered Neutral.
There again I have not done much with 4th Edition so maybe now now some Devils are aligned Good so making a pack easier for a Good character.
As for a named Devil, there you clearly would need to look at their goals and desires as to terms of a pack, what powers gained. However as you indicate some named are "too far out of my characters league to have a pact with" it clearly is possible you could select a minion Devil and choose your own name for him.
This is the best ideas I can offer right now.
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"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Diffan
Great Reader
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Posted - 22 May 2013 : 20:17:45
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I'm not too familiar with the names of lesser Demons and Devils of the Realms but what about the Pact being forged with a Greater Devil (I see devils making more pacts thatn Demons, but that's just me) and then, when the souls need dropped off it's done with a servant or package-boy so to speak for said Devil/Demon? I could see a greater Devil actually making an appearance when the Pact is forged but for the rest of the time not being bothered until the pact-bearer has gained some prestige or a name for themselves.
As such, I think Asmodeus makes a good choice for starters. For other suggestions, here's the FR Wiki about the 9 Archdukes of Hell... Archdevil
Also, I sort of like Lord of the Fifth: Prince Levistus |
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jones52j
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 22 May 2013 : 20:38:16
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| Levistus does seem like a great choice for the Human I want to make. I imagined my character tall with black hair and a goatee lol. I noticed that Stygia his domain is mostly ice covered, would this be something a Hellbringer Warlock(focusing on igniting his foes) be about? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 22 May 2013 : 20:50:45
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Originally posted by Kentinal
I am confused, a character good it would strike me as not doing a pack with an Evil creature, one neutral clearly might if the Evil of requirements of the pack is offset in such a way that the character can over all still be considered Neutral.
I'm going to agree with this... I'm not sure how one can trade the souls of others to an evil entity and not have an evil alignment... It shouldn't matter whether or not he's the one acquiring them; doing anything other than letting them go to their rightful afterlife is an evil act. |
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jones52j
Acolyte
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Posted - 22 May 2013 : 20:56:45
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Kentinal
I am confused, a character good it would strike me as not doing a pack with an Evil creature, one neutral clearly might if the Evil of requirements of the pack is offset in such a way that the character can over all still be considered Neutral.
I'm going to agree with this... I'm not sure how one can trade the souls of others to an evil entity and not have an evil alignment... It shouldn't matter whether or not he's the one acquiring them; doing anything other than letting them go to their rightful afterlife is an evil act.
This isn't something finalized, just first thing that came to my head. |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
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Posted - 22 May 2013 : 21:24:25
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| the road to the nine hells is paved with good intentions |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
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jones52j
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 22 May 2013 : 21:30:25
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Originally posted by sleyvas
the road to the nine hells is paved with good intentions
Truer words have never been spoken. |
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jones52j
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 23 May 2013 : 13:58:43
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| Sooo, does it makes sense for a Hellbringer Warlock(specializes in fire) to have a Pact with Levistus, Prince of Stygia, Lord of the Fifth who commands ice devils and lives in a domain of ice and cold? |
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Marc
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 23 May 2013 : 16:57:52
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| Hellfire is the creation of Mephistopheles, I think it would be the best choice among the Nine. If you think it's too far out of your character's league make a pact with one of baatezu nobles that serve him. Usually I think these kind of pacts are made with lesser devils in the name of their master. |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 23 May 2013 : 23:52:22
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Originally posted by jones52j
I'm creating a 4E "1480 DR" Human Scourge Warlock who is utlizing the Infernal Pact. I'm not super familiar with Baator around this timeline and now sure which devil/archdevil I should choose for my Pact.
I want my character to be somewhere between Good/Neutral. The Pact can be he offers souls in exchange for power. The souls can be acquired by evil creatures/men and funneled via his pact blade to whichever devil his pact is with.
Asmodeus or Mephistopheles seems like an obvious choice but possibly too far out of my characters league to have a pact with.
Any suggestion? Thank you
I'd go with Glaysa, she's new to being an archdevil and looking for servants/allies on the material plane. |
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jerrod
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 22 Jul 2013 : 22:13:54
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| Malkizid would accept your human at good alignment but eventually you would have to suffer a alignment shift cause by some of the abilities he would tempt you with. Like he did with the vyshan. |
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Help with choosing Pact for Infernal Warlock
