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Maecenus of Westgate
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Posted - 25 Jan 2004 :  22:24:31  Show Profile  Visit Maecenus of Westgate's Homepage Send Maecenus of Westgate a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Just finished reading Crucible but am confused. What fate befell the actual accursed tome, The Cyrinishad? Was it confiscated by the Harpers, is it being held within Candlekeep or were the guardians of the tome ressurected to continue with their duties?

The Cardinal
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Posted - 25 Jan 2004 :  22:52:43  Show Profile  Visit The Cardinal's Homepage Send The Cardinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I believe that the wretched tome is still held in the Hallowed Halls of The Keep. Though I hope that is not the case. We have been gathering an unhealthy number of Cyricists as of late...


It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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Cherrn
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Denmark
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Posted - 25 Jan 2004 :  23:21:18  Show Profile Send Cherrn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I thought Malik was still walking around with it.

A wise man from Calimport once told me: "If a merchant puts sand in the flask of oil he's trying to sell you, then he isn't trying to sell you sand..."
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Maecenus of Westgate
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Posted - 25 Jan 2004 :  23:26:02  Show Profile  Visit Maecenus of Westgate's Homepage Send Maecenus of Westgate a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cherrn

I thought Malik was still walking around with it.




Warning: Crucible Spoilers Below!
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Malik didn't hang on to it for long during his escape from Candlekeep but then he left for Zhentil Keep to obtain The True Life of Cyric (an alltogether different tome).

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Cherrn
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Denmark
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Posted - 25 Jan 2004 :  23:30:10  Show Profile Send Cherrn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah yes, now I remember it. It has been a while since I read Crucible. As far as I know though, Cyric and his church does still have the Cyrinishad. That's why the other gods fear him.

Hmmmm it's all blurry, I need to reread it :)

A wise man from Calimport once told me: "If a merchant puts sand in the flask of oil he's trying to sell you, then he isn't trying to sell you sand..."
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Enagonios
Acolyte

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Posted - 26 Jan 2004 :  10:05:00  Show Profile  Visit Enagonios's Homepage Send Enagonios a Private Message  Reply with Quote
actually, i don't think the cyricists know where it is either. i mean, if they did, cyric would probably know somehow and NOT send malik after Gwydion and that girl of oghma's thinking that they had it, right? bit that's a good question, i last remember it when mask read it right before kelemvor overthrew cyric. since we're on the topic, i got a question too: mask turned into a "cyric-worshipper" after reading it too, which is why he confessed to cyric that he had been betraying him as godsbane, but is he still under the effect of the cyrinishad? if he were, wouldn't this have kept him from testifying against cyric at his trial? (he DID testify at the trial, right? sorry, it's been a while)

"I can't die young. I have a feeling the people of earth are gonna need me." -Marco from Road Trip
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Cherrn
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Denmark
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Posted - 26 Jan 2004 :  16:09:11  Show Profile Send Cherrn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
He sacrificed 1 divine lvl to regain his wits :)
Went from Intermediate to Lesser, he's now nearly intermediate again. So he should be alright

A wise man from Calimport once told me: "If a merchant puts sand in the flask of oil he's trying to sell you, then he isn't trying to sell you sand..."
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Kameron M. Franklin
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 29 Jan 2004 :  23:27:23  Show Profile  Visit Kameron M. Franklin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well, I just finished Crucible, so I thought I could chime in. The Cyrinishad is still buried somewhere in Candlekeep. Malik sensed it somewhere in the lower levels before he fled.

As far as Mask, I would guess Cherrn is near the mark. By "losing" intrigue from his portfolio, he lost a divine level, yadda, yadda yadda. And Mask did testify at the trial, but against Mystra and not Cyric.

"You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." --Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride
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Edain Shadowstar
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Posted - 30 Jan 2004 :  20:25:35  Show Profile  Visit Edain Shadowstar's Homepage Send Edain Shadowstar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was always of the opinion if they wanted to hide the Cyrinshad in Candlekeep they should have stuck it on the same shelf as the mind flayer cookbooks. Cheap joke, I know. Honestly, the Crucibl was an interesting read, the style of writing by Troy Denning was neat, and in many ways very effective. The sort of Cyric-driven slant to the book worked well. It is one of his better FR books in my opinion.

Edain Shadowstar
Archwizard of Rel Astra and Waterdeep


"Mmm…pie…"
- Gaius Solarian, Captain General
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Cyric
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Posted - 30 Jan 2004 :  21:23:23  Show Profile  Visit Cyric's Homepage Send Cyric a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i think its the best book ever writen and you say that it is somewhere in these halls that was neat to now . I must be going to the lower levels now.
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Edain Shadowstar
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USA
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Posted - 31 Jan 2004 :  04:02:16  Show Profile  Visit Edain Shadowstar's Homepage Send Edain Shadowstar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good luck finding it, the Cyrinshad is immune to all forms of detection, even from divine sources. You could spend a lifetime searching and only find it if you were looking right at it. Also, as part of his guilty verdict at his trial cyric swore neither he nor his faithful would ever search for or use the Cyrinshad, ever.

Edain Shadowstar
Archwizard of Rel Astra and Waterdeep


"Mmm…pie…"
- Gaius Solarian, Captain General

Edited by - Edain Shadowstar on 31 Jan 2004 04:03:07
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Cyric
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Posted - 31 Jan 2004 :  10:45:59  Show Profile  Visit Cyric's Homepage Send Cyric a Private Message  Reply with Quote
you know Cyric is the god of lies... and it was kind of a joke and i know i have read the books to
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Edain Shadowstar
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Posted - 31 Jan 2004 :  20:53:32  Show Profile  Visit Edain Shadowstar's Homepage Send Edain Shadowstar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Allow me to rephrase, his continued survival was contingent upon his agreement with the terms that he not seek the Cyrinshad. It's more like a binding legal agreement.

Edain Shadowstar
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"Mmm…pie…"
- Gaius Solarian, Captain General
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VEDSICA
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Posted - 31 Jan 2004 :  21:47:42  Show Profile  Visit VEDSICA's Homepage Send VEDSICA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I thought Malik did get his hands on The Cyrinishad,but lost it when he jumped into the moat to escape Ruha???

LIFE,BIRTH,BLOOD,DOOM---THE HOLE IN THE GROUND IS COMING ROUND SOON----BLS
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Edain Shadowstar
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Posted - 31 Jan 2004 :  23:23:17  Show Profile  Visit Edain Shadowstar's Homepage Send Edain Shadowstar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No, he mistakenly stole Rinda's diary, Rinda being the scribe of the Cyrinshad and its protector from Cyric. He was magically compelled, rather comically, to read Rinda's diary to the Gods at Cyric's trial shortly after.

Edain Shadowstar
Archwizard of Rel Astra and Waterdeep


"Mmm…pie…"
- Gaius Solarian, Captain General
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore

USA
1298 Posts

Posted - 31 Jan 2004 :  23:37:41  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So that means the book is still here in Candlekeep! Ah ha! So that's why Alaundo won't let me into the "wine cellar"! Or it could just be that he doesn't want me drinking all the wine........

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Edain Shadowstar
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Posted - 31 Jan 2004 :  23:40:48  Show Profile  Visit Edain Shadowstar's Homepage Send Edain Shadowstar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If memory serves they buried the book in the moat in The Crucible, you might try looking there. Really, it is a useless item unless you want to make everyone revere Cyric.

Edain Shadowstar
Archwizard of Rel Astra and Waterdeep


"Mmm…pie…"
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 31 Jan 2004 :  23:43:11  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh, you misunderstand me. I don't want it! I hate Cyric! I just want access to the wine cellar........

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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VEDSICA
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USA
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Posted - 01 Feb 2004 :  02:26:18  Show Profile  Visit VEDSICA's Homepage Send VEDSICA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So it is in the moat???

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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 01 Feb 2004 :  02:47:35  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Apparently so, my fellow scribe.

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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Kameron M. Franklin
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
228 Posts

Posted - 01 Feb 2004 :  03:18:42  Show Profile  Visit Kameron M. Franklin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
From Crucible, page 109:
quote:
I knew at once that my foes meant to drop the Cyrinishad into one of the boiling cesspools below their latrines . . . .


That's the last mention I could find/recall of the location of the book. Enjoy your swim.

"You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." --Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride

Edited by - Kameron M. Franklin on 01 Feb 2004 03:19:54
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Adrian Moonbow
Seeker

Denmark
64 Posts

Posted - 03 Feb 2004 :  09:45:16  Show Profile  Visit Adrian Moonbow's Homepage Send Adrian Moonbow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I gotta read those books again! I can't remember any of that...

Well, into my reading stack they go. (No, don't topple over... Arrgh)

"I would have wanted not to die.
I would have wanted never to grow up!"
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 03 Feb 2004 :  18:37:55  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, I think we should ask Mr. Lowder (an author and editor Ed of the Greenwood has GREAT respect for, BTW) for the definitive fate. Possibly in the form of a new novel... :)
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