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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
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 Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 00:08:04
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Originally posted by Cyric
i do belive Cyric is more powerful then Mystra.
Well, gee, there's a surprise. You believe Cyric's better than anything.  |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 00:39:16
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| Cyric IS NOT more powerful than Mystra. She could easily whup him with her spells plus she can just deny Cyric's access to the Weave and he can't even cast a cantrip then. |
"Trust in the shadows, for the bright way makes you an easy target." -Mask |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 01:05:54
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| IIRC, she did exactly that before..... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Roewyn
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 01:24:23
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Originally posted by DDH_101
Cyric IS NOT more powerful than Mystra. She could easily whup him with her spells plus she can just deny Cyric's access to the Weave and he can't even cast a cantrip then.
I really doubt that she would dare to do that again.
Cyric is no fool he won't give her a chance to do that.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31772 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 02:29:05
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Originally posted by Cyric
i do belive Cyric is more powerful then Mystra.
Not quite what I was expecting, but then...
Anyway, I really think you have missed the mark on this one Cyric  . Maybe, given the early days of 'Cyric's Madness', and his level of power before the return of Bane, I could agree with you that Cyric was on par with Mystra, but given the present situation, and Mystra's command of all things magical (being command of the Weave), there is little in the way of comparison...except maybe your own personal tastes on deity worship...
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 02:36:22
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| Ah no Sage! I do believe you just contributed to the age old "Which Deity is Better" battle! Oh well, I thought you were better than that Sage..... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 02:44:53
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Yes, but thats a way of goading him into a lecture about "How Cyric is the One True Power" and such! We've gotten him started, now he'll never stop! |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31772 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 03:11:18
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Hmmm...there's really nothing wrong with that. If Cyric wants to talk about 'Cyric' being the 'One and All', I think that is great...It's Realmslore...how can that be bad?. Just be sure to start another scroll on this topic before beginning the discussion.
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 03:14:26
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| Hmmm, nevermind Sage. You obviously don't understand...... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 04:12:12
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Originally posted by Roewyn
quote:
Originally posted by DDH_101
Cyric IS NOT more powerful than Mystra. She could easily whup him with her spells plus she can just deny Cyric's access to the Weave and he can't even cast a cantrip then.
I really doubt that she would dare to do that again.
Cyric is no fool he won't give her a chance to do that.
Roewyn, if Mystra was gonna be killed by Cyric, I don't think she would hesistate to deny his magic to defend herself. Also, it wouldn't go against the Balance because she did it to protect herself from Cyric's attacks and also the Weave from being harmed. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31772 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 07:12:36
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Indeed you are right DDH_101. The Weave's balance, and continued integrity is measured above all other deity interests. To abuse that responsibility, or ignore it in favor of some other concern would risk the very essence of the Art, bringing an end to all magic as we known it on Toril. Just remember what happened the last time someone tried 'going against' the eternal balance of the Weave. Mystra knows how important it is to maintain the purity of the Weave, and it's connection to all life on Faerun. If Cyric jeopardised that link, Mystra would not second-guess to deny him access.
Mystra knows this because it's a part of her core identity...it's something that was passed from Mystra I to Midnight, before her ascension. I'll also assume that Mystryl had possession of this ideal as well.
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Roewyn
Learned Scribe
114 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 09:06:13
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I guess you are right about the balance but as I said Cyric won't dare an open attack for he has more enemies and less power than he had in prince of lies.
What about Shar? If Mystra denies magic to Cyric can Shar support him with her shadow weave? Shar doesn't like Mystra at all. I think that kind of allience may be formed in future |
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Cyric
Senior Scribe
Norway
388 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 14:06:51
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By the way Cyric did attack Mystra with out magic and cut of her fingers so in your face Cyric is always better and you all know it.
And Cyric is way more powerful then Mystra she just a weak puney girl. And Shar could do that then it would go from esaey to kill her to very eseay.
And he has not lesser power and we are not talking about mouch power he lost, Cyric always win. And Bane did not really take power Cyric gave the lesser things he did not want |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 14:16:03
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Mystra, Kelemvor, Oghma, Azuth, Mask, Tyr, Torm, Deneir, Leira, Iyachtu Xvim, and all the others should just gang-up on him, and destroy him. 
Cyric is a raving lunatic, and needs to be put down for the good of everybody else. Then again, what would the world be without raving lunatics that crusade around, and kill people seemingly out random? It would be a pretty booring place, I tell you! 
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Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P |
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Cyric
Senior Scribe
Norway
388 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jan 2004 : 21:10:11
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| it would ned all of them to kill him and some more. |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jan 2004 : 20:49:57
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| Ugh, ego-maniac....... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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RaVeN1463
Seeker
USA
96 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jan 2004 : 20:55:55
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why bother with brute force discrete blades and powerful magic can have the same affect
hmmm assassinating the god of assassins what an idea |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jan 2004 : 21:00:43
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| Raven, I am beginning to think the best decision I ever made was converting you to be a Vhaeraunite! I agree wholeheartedly. That's kind of ironic, don't you think? Assassinating a god of assassins? |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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RaVeN1463
Seeker
USA
96 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jan 2004 : 21:20:16
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As much as massive slaughter of Cyrics followers is a tempting idea
to weaken him then destroy him in the same manner the irony of assassinating the god of assassins just sounds so much better |
Edited by - RaVeN1463 on 31 Jan 2004 21:20:58 |
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Cherrn
Learned Scribe
Denmark
323 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jan 2004 : 22:02:16
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| It wouldn't happen. Cyric would see a murder coming 17 days before it happens due to his portfolio sense. |
A wise man from Calimport once told me: "If a merchant puts sand in the flask of oil he's trying to sell you, then he isn't trying to sell you sand..." |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jan 2004 : 22:06:17
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| Yes, but just because he can sense it doesn't mean he can stop it! |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1272 Posts |
Posted - 31 Jan 2004 : 23:54:01
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EcThelion, Iyachtu Xvim is gone. The only purpose of him was to allow Bane to be resurrected.
Cherrn, does it also include murders from other deities? Also, Mask can do a pretty good job of illusions and deceptions that he could fool a god like Cyric. |
"Trust in the shadows, for the bright way makes you an easy target." -Mask |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 01:17:40
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| Hes gone...? Oh... |
Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 01:25:07
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| Actually, Cyric has the portfolio of deciet and illusion..... Just getting the facts straight. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe
Norway
323 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 01:33:02
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| Erhm... Intrigue, deception AND Murder, strife, lies, illusion, right? |
Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 01:38:40
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| Correct. Glad to see you know your deities. |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Cherrn
Learned Scribe
Denmark
323 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 02:35:36
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Originally posted by DDH_101
EcThelion, Iyachtu Xvim is gone. The only purpose of him was to allow Bane to be resurrected.
Cherrn, does it also include murders from other deities? Also, Mask can do a pretty good job of illusions and deceptions that he could fool a god like Cyric.
Yeah I would think so, it's his portfolio sense after all. He can see any murder 17 days before it happens. |
A wise man from Calimport once told me: "If a merchant puts sand in the flask of oil he's trying to sell you, then he isn't trying to sell you sand..." |
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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore
USA
1298 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 02:41:17
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| Still as I said, sensing and preventing are two different things...... |
The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri. |
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Cherrn
Learned Scribe
Denmark
323 Posts |
Posted - 01 Feb 2004 : 02:45:41
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| Cyric is clever enough to prevent such a thing if he knows it is happening. In fact, if he's in his own plane I don't think anybody would be able to kill him at all given his divine rank. |
A wise man from Calimport once told me: "If a merchant puts sand in the flask of oil he's trying to sell you, then he isn't trying to sell you sand..." |
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