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Jeremy Grenemyer
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Posted - 17 Apr 2013 : 20:09:04
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Have either you or your friend provided a review that I might be able to peruse before I [eventually] tackle this book myself?
Neither of us have reviewed it, to my knowledge.
It's a real easy read as White doesn't pull his punches or dress things up. He just tells it like it was and that is what gives the book its impact and kept me turning pages.
I recommend everyone and anyone read it just for the knowledge of what war is like.
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I found and purchased a stack of ten volumes for cheap (about $20 US) in an antique shop that comprise The World's Fifty Best Short Stories, published in 1910.
The stories are consistent in that they've all given me ideas for D&D.
Most of the authors I've never read, though a few names I recognize (Jack London, Anton Checkov). One short story I've read previously back in High School (An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge by Ambrose Bierce).
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Dennis
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Posted - 18 Apr 2013 : 03:44:44
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quote: Originally posted by Dennis
Hmm. Perhaps because of some of the characters? Too powerful for your taste? I get the impression you don’t normally go for overpowered beings, save Pug, I guess.
By the way, does the original, single edition also have a foreword? I was quite amused with this: “Upon a suggestion, I took Firedrake to a publisher about an hour and a half away. Literally walking in off the street, I asked to speak with the editor (and no, you really can’t do that these days).”
And this probably a big spoiler, but I’m curious . . . is Nathan Bedlam really dead? (I’m still on chapter 5.)
I don't mind powerful characters... There was just something overall, about the setting and all the stories, that just didn't grab me as much as it could have. Perhaps I didn't care for the characters enough, perhaps I didn't get enough of a feel for the land itself... I don't recall.
I seem to recall Nathan reappearing, but I've not read those books in ten years or so. I barely remember any of the characters beyond Cabe, Gwendolyn, Darkhorse, Dru Zaree (sp?) and his daughter (whose name escapes me), Madrac, and the blue dragon duke that went to the other continent with Gryphon.
I see. Thanks, Wooly.
On Nathan: It's just as I suspected. The Sunlancers survived, so I thought their leader must have had too, albeit probably in a recuperating stage. |
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Entromancer
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Posted - 18 Apr 2013 : 12:50:03
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The omnibus Corum: The Coming of Chaos; specifically the novel Knight of the Swords. It is interesting to see that a Champion for Law isn't too different from a Champion of Chaos, such as Elric.
re The Dragonrealms: The setting is excellent sword and sorcery, but I also can't put my finger on why I don't care for the stories. |
"...the will is everything. The will to act."--Ra's Al Ghul
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Hawkins
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Posted - 18 Apr 2013 : 15:33:47
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| Currently, I am re-reading the Hobbit for the first time in over a decade. |
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Arcanus
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Posted - 18 Apr 2013 : 17:41:05
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Artemas Entreri
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USA
3131 Posts |
Posted - 18 Apr 2013 : 23:03:54
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| Finished Faith of the Fallen. Great book and one of my favs of the series so far. |
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Artemas Entreri
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3131 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2013 : 02:23:23
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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore
   
India
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Posted - 19 Apr 2013 : 12:13:09
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I am trying out And Another Thing , the sequel to hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy. Its seems to be quite good so far. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 19 Apr 2013 : 13:00:47
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quote: Originally posted by Thauranil
I am trying out And Another Thing , the sequel to hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy. Its seems to be quite good so far.
For me, the trilogy ends with So Long and Thanks for All the Fish. I really didn't care for Mostly Harmless, and I prefer to stick with the original author.
There was one bit I liked from Mostly Harmless: the Bob-fearing natives that Arthur was living with. I found that quite amusing. And I worked for a time with a rather religious person, so I now usually invoke Bob where other people would invoke God. 
I also never knew the original books had been censored a bit, until I bought a big omnibus edition of the 4 books in a bookstore in Dublin, and read it on the flight home. I've read the censored versions many times, so I immediately noticed the places where the text had been changed. |
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Entromancer
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Posted - 19 Apr 2013 : 20:51:16
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The White Wolf's Son
A bunch of characters who could be seen as villains in their respective novels (in so much as they took advantage of a world at war to more or less use the nations' military powers to one-up one another, were responsible for genocide, commonplace murder, and in the case of one, were a proficient conman/trickster) come together in a The Avengers styled team to bring down a disgraced Knight and ex-Priest that want to use the Holy Grail, some magic stone, a certain child's blood, and the Runestaff to destroy the Cosmic Balance, sending the Multiverse and Its myriad worlds into nonexistance.
The Knight and ex-Priest, of course, have their own reasons. To accomplish their goals, they team up with the corrupt empire of Granbretan, who has conquered much of the world where the main part of the story takes place.
Metaphysics, musings on the nature and Good and Evil, and epic fantasy make this quite a pleasurable fantasy novel. One that I like to linger over as I'm reading.
Weaveworld by Clive Barker is good for that, too. Lingering over something, I mean. Barker takes what Tolkien was saying with LotR and presents it in a far more entertaining style; I also felt the emotional weight of the novel's conflict moreso than with Tolkien.
So, I wholeheartedly recommend both The White Wolf's Son and Weaveworld.
Tad Williams' Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn and the Shadowmarch novels..do yall recommend them? |
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"Suffering builds character."--Talia Al Ghul |
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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 20 Apr 2013 : 00:30:18
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Renin
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Posted - 20 Apr 2013 : 04:54:43
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Finished 'Elminster's Daughter'. Quite enjoyed it, especially as it went on, especially more and more with Vangey-who, I've always loved as a wizard who seemed to sneered at by commoner and noble alike, and who never seemed to be seen in the same notoriety as other great mages because of his work (under, and for) others.
And, well, damn Mr. Greenwood for writing a near teenage girl to perfection, as I both wanted to strangle Narna and also just try to make her understand how life can really be.
Cool stuff. Off to finish off 'Gauntlgrym', pick up Sword of Evenstar, Elminster Must Die, and Plutocrats. |
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Posted - 20 Apr 2013 : 07:32:49
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quote: Originally posted by Entromancer
Tad Williams' Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn and the Shadowmarch novels..do yall recommend them?
I've only read the first book in the series so far - the Dragonbone Chair. It's wonderfully written and has a solid plot, but very slow. If slow fantasy doesn't bother you then I would definitely recommend the Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn series.
Finally started Brimstone Angels: Lesser Evils and enjoying it so far - as I knew I would. |
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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore
   
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Posted - 20 Apr 2013 : 15:17:13
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote: Originally posted by Thauranil
I am trying out And Another Thing , the sequel to hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy. Its seems to be quite good so far.
For me, the trilogy ends with So Long and Thanks for All the Fish. I really didn't care for Mostly Harmless, and I prefer to stick with the original author.
There was one bit I liked from Mostly Harmless: the Bob-fearing natives that Arthur was living with. I found that quite amusing. And I worked for a time with a rather religious person, so I now usually invoke Bob where other people would invoke God. 
I also never knew the original books had been censored a bit, until I bought a big omnibus edition of the 4 books in a bookstore in Dublin, and read it on the flight home. I've read the censored versions many times, so I immediately noticed the places where the text had been changed.
I directly got the omnibus so I never knew about the censorship. It remains one of my favorite books and I would have loved to continue reading more novels By Douglas adam, alas due to his unfortunate death this is no longer possible. So , admittedly with some trepidation, I tried out this latest novel and while not as good as the original its still an entertaining enough book. Just don't except to be blown away by it. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 20 Apr 2013 : 16:24:40
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quote: Originally posted by Thauranil
quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote: Originally posted by Thauranil
I am trying out And Another Thing , the sequel to hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy. Its seems to be quite good so far.
For me, the trilogy ends with So Long and Thanks for All the Fish. I really didn't care for Mostly Harmless, and I prefer to stick with the original author.
There was one bit I liked from Mostly Harmless: the Bob-fearing natives that Arthur was living with. I found that quite amusing. And I worked for a time with a rather religious person, so I now usually invoke Bob where other people would invoke God. 
I also never knew the original books had been censored a bit, until I bought a big omnibus edition of the 4 books in a bookstore in Dublin, and read it on the flight home. I've read the censored versions many times, so I immediately noticed the places where the text had been changed.
I directly got the omnibus so I never knew about the censorship. It remains one of my favorite books and I would have loved to continue reading more novels By Douglas adam, alas due to his unfortunate death this is no longer possible. So , admittedly with some trepidation, I tried out this latest novel and while not as good as the original its still an entertaining enough book. Just don't except to be blown away by it.
Off the top of my head, I think only two or three things were censored, though there could be others I've forgotten. One is that Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged uses a different insult when he insults Arthur Dent; I think the kid at the cricket match also had his insult changed (the censored version calls him a "kneebiter"). And the guy at the flying party, the one who had won the Rory award for the Most Gratuitous Use of the Word "Fsck" in a Serious Screenplay (censoring mine, there, considering the CoC) -- in the censored version, the word was "Belgium". The censored version actually adds a few paragraphs, here -- the girl is quite uncomfortable using that word, and Arthur is absolutely bewildered as to why the name of a small brown European country is so offensive. (As I recall, that was actually how Arthur described it). For that part, the censored version is much funnier. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 20 Apr 2013 : 20:00:13
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quote: Originally posted by Dennis
I’m reading Firedrake, Book I of the Legends of the Dragonrealm . I’m loving it so far. One of the things I like about Richard is that he is an “economist”—he chooses words ever so carefully and often, if not always, avoids verbose descriptions. Another is, he makes me tolerate and to some degree like the things I normally find annoying or boring. It’s no secret that I don’t care for the bloated winged lizards that call themselves dragons. But Richard’s dragons have interesting personalities and are more human than monsters, which Gold himself, the Dragon Emperor, admitted.
Cabe Bedlam is proving to be a hero I can easily sympathize with. Though I guess it would have been better had Richard slowed down Cabe’s coming into power.
I have all the omnibus and also the latest book Shade, and I was so tempted to jump straight to it. But for some reason, I was able to resist the temptation, and so I’m starting where it all begins . . .
I’m now halfway through. I like how the story progresses and how the villain is introduced. Everything’s going fine, except the fact that Cabe is hardly in real danger. Where’s the fun when the hero always emerges from every fight unscathed? Hopefully, this changes in the succeeding chapters. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief

    
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Posted - 20 Apr 2013 : 21:59:52
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I'm reading Dragons of Spring Dawning, right now.
I first got these books around 1990. I've read them many, many times since then. And yet, the death of Flint -- and Tasslehoff's reaction, in particular -- gets me every time.
That's some good writing. |
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 20 Apr 2013 : 22:06:09
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'm reading Dragons of Spring Dawning, right now.
I first got these books around 1990. I've read them many, many times since then. And yet, the death of Flint -- and Tasslehoff's reaction, in particular -- gets me every time.
That's some good writing.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief

    
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Posted - 20 Apr 2013 : 22:07:22
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quote: Originally posted by The Red Walker
quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I'm reading Dragons of Spring Dawning, right now.
I first got these books around 1990. I've read them many, many times since then. And yet, the death of Flint -- and Tasslehoff's reaction, in particular -- gets me every time.
That's some good writing.
Good enough to say twice ehhhh?  
Indeed! 
But actually, the site was glitching on me, and I couldn't get the page to load to see if I posted once or twice. The Sage's gremlins are loose again, I fear.  |
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DragonReader
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Posted - 21 Apr 2013 : 02:00:26
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Finished The 5th Horseman the fifth book in the Women's Murder Club series by James Patterson and Maxine Paetro. I am enjoying this series each book is a quick exciting read.
Tonight I will start Gauntlgrym, book #1 of the Neverwinter series by R.A. Salvatore |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 21 Apr 2013 : 02:16:38
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Working on Time of the Twins, now. The first time I read them, I read the Legends trilogy before the Chronicles... Not sure why it happened that way, now. I originally got the books secondhand, from my best friend, and I don't recall now if there was a reason he handed me the second trilogy, first.
Back in those days, I got a lot (most of!) of my books secondhand... There was a used bookstore within walking distance of my house, and that place greatly expanded my library! The place closed down sometime after I started working regularly, and started buying books new instead of secondhand -- but I was still sad to see it go. |
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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 21 Apr 2013 : 04:09:33
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Booksalefinder dot com is an awesome site for finding local library book sales. The sales are here have a "fill a bag" sale on the last day where you pay $5 for a Trader Joe's size paper bag and you can fill it to the maximum. With clever stacking I can usually fit about 45 paperbacks in 1 bag.  |
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Dennis
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Posted - 21 Apr 2013 : 12:04:12
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I’m reading By the Creek by Geoff Laughton. Quite engrossing so far. It starts slow, but it’s appropriate for the theme and the setting. It’s like recalling some those beautiful summer days from your youth. |
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Renin
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Posted - 21 Apr 2013 : 13:43:57
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Working on Time of the Twins, now. The first time I read them, I read the Legends trilogy before the Chronicles... Not sure why it happened that way, now. I originally got the books secondhand, from my best friend, and I don't recall now if there was a reason he handed me the second trilogy, first.
Ah...I too, about once every 2-3 years, reread Chronicles and Legends. Those 6 books spelled out everything that made Krynn what it was-but, I just could never play in that Realm. Anything that I thought I could do just wouldn't compare to the adventures and stories of the Companions. |
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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore
   
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Posted - 21 Apr 2013 : 14:38:56
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote: Originally posted by Thauranil
quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote: Originally posted by Thauranil
I am trying out And Another Thing , the sequel to hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy. Its seems to be quite good so far.
For me, the trilogy ends with So Long and Thanks for All the Fish. I really didn't care for Mostly Harmless, and I prefer to stick with the original author.
There was one bit I liked from Mostly Harmless: the Bob-fearing natives that Arthur was living with. I found that quite amusing. And I worked for a time with a rather religious person, so I now usually invoke Bob where other people would invoke God. 
I also never knew the original books had been censored a bit, until I bought a big omnibus edition of the 4 books in a bookstore in Dublin, and read it on the flight home. I've read the censored versions many times, so I immediately noticed the places where the text had been changed.
I directly got the omnibus so I never knew about the censorship. It remains one of my favorite books and I would have loved to continue reading more novels By Douglas adam, alas due to his unfortunate death this is no longer possible. So , admittedly with some trepidation, I tried out this latest novel and while not as good as the original its still an entertaining enough book. Just don't except to be blown away by it.
Off the top of my head, I think only two or three things were censored, though there could be others I've forgotten. One is that Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged uses a different insult when he insults Arthur Dent; I think the kid at the cricket match also had his insult changed (the censored version calls him a "kneebiter"). And the guy at the flying party, the one who had won the Rory award for the Most Gratuitous Use of the Word "Fsck" in a Serious Screenplay (censoring mine, there, considering the CoC) -- in the censored version, the word was "Belgium". The censored version actually adds a few paragraphs, here -- the girl is quite uncomfortable using that word, and Arthur is absolutely bewildered as to why the name of a small brown European country is so offensive. (As I recall, that was actually how Arthur described it). For that part, the censored version is much funnier.
You mean the whole Belgium thing was not in the original! I guess I did read the censored version after all. Still i think it is indeed funnier this way. |
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Thauranil
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Posted - 21 Apr 2013 : 14:59:12
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| I started on Orb, Scepter, Throne by Ian Esslemont. Does not seem to be as riveting as the previous books so far but maybe it will pick up the pace later on. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 21 Apr 2013 : 16:04:09
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quote: Originally posted by Renin
quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Working on Time of the Twins, now. The first time I read them, I read the Legends trilogy before the Chronicles... Not sure why it happened that way, now. I originally got the books secondhand, from my best friend, and I don't recall now if there was a reason he handed me the second trilogy, first.
Ah...I too, about once every 2-3 years, reread Chronicles and Legends. Those 6 books spelled out everything that made Krynn what it was-but, I just could never play in that Realm. Anything that I thought I could do just wouldn't compare to the adventures and stories of the Companions.
That's part of the reason my own interest in Krynn waned... It's like Krynn was TSR's setting for the epic tales, and smaller-scale stories were for other settings. |
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Artemas Entreri
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Posted - 22 Apr 2013 : 00:44:46
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| Started and finished Deryni Checkmate by Katherine Kurtz. |
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Clad In Shadows
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Canada
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Posted - 22 Apr 2013 : 16:20:21
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| Just started the Earthsea Trilogy by Ursula K Le Guin. |
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Renin
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Posted - 23 Apr 2013 : 04:25:54
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Just finished 'Gauntlgrym'. I liked it well enough, had some moments, but I rather feel like I'm rewatching the final seasons of 'Cheers, Night Court, or Roseanne' when I'm reading Drizzt books-I remember I REALLY liked this once upon a time, but seeing him yet again, well, I like it, but it doesn't do the same for me.
That, and I really did not like the character Dahlia. I understand redemption, but I have to care about you first.
Reading (all at the same time), Elminster Must Die, Cold Days, and Dream Spheres (again!).
In the docket, Swords of Evening Star, and Book 1 of the Erevis Cale series, then Neverwinter, then the Best of the Realms 2 and 3-Ed and Elaine.
PFew! Making up for lost time, I guess! |
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