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realmsrider
Acolyte
USA
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 Posted - 16 Dec 2012 : 05:14:24
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What FR books have you read and wished for different outcomes? Did you like a character that hasn't shown up in any sequels in the world of Faerun? Are there artifacts/monsters you wish you could read about that haven't been done yet?
My impossible wish list
-The father and son in Wrath of the Blue Lady. I would have liked to see a trilogy with this pair. They were just great characters and I loved the father/son dynamic Mel gave these guys. Plus they were bad ass monks.
-After YotRD Dorn and Kara have half dragon kids. This just sounds fun.
-Space aliens crash land on Faerun. Imagine Elminster and Co. trying to keep alien tech out of the hands of the Zhentarim...
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
Posted - 16 Dec 2012 : 05:37:53
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Space aliens? Meh, we have Spelljammer for that. And Dorn CAN'T have kids- that was one of the parts of him that got replaced. It was even mentioned as part of the reason he tried to keep her from getting too close- because he was only "half a man". In more ways than one, apparently.
My personal wish list would include a Zak/Jarlaxle book(s). And maybe a "fix" for the end of the LP series. That was just horrid. (Not the series- the ending.) And lastly, I'd have liked to see A different ending to Ghost King. Cattie and Regis's deaths were just plain bad. They should never have gone out like that. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 16 Dec 2012 : 06:22:35
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A tragic love story between Telamont Tanthul and his seneschal, Hadrhune. |
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Chosen of Asmodeus
Master of Realmslore
1221 Posts |
Posted - 16 Dec 2012 : 06:34:07
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Wouldn't mind some Spelljammer/Realms crossovers, now that you mention it.
An Obould book would have been awesome. Or just something with Many-Arrows orcs as protagonists.
Would love some books centering around villain protagonists or just more morally ambiguous characters. Sympathetic portrayal of an (undeniably evil) priest/paladin of Asmodeus would rub me the right way. |
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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore
India
1591 Posts |
Posted - 16 Dec 2012 : 12:44:11
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I would like it if they brought Cale back somehow.
And resurrected Helm and the Masked Lady, two of my favorites from the dead gods.
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Yoss
Learned Scribe
USA
259 Posts |
Posted - 17 Dec 2012 : 09:01:22
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 17 Dec 2012 : 15:23:43
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Bring the Zulkirs and Karsus back. Feature Larloch in a trilogy/pentad. |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 17 Dec 2012 : 18:05:40
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You know, several of these happen in my own Realms, and are at least minor background material that affect my current 4e game:
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
My personal wish list would include a Zak/Jarlaxle book(s)
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Originally posted by Dennis
A tragic love story between Telamont Tanthul and his seneschal, Hadrhune.
Both of those are pretty hot in my game.
What? I have a table full of randy gay guys. My story adapts. 
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Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus
An Obould book would have been awesome. Or just something with Many-Arrows orcs as protagonists.
I've planned out that book. It may happen one day!
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Would love some books centering around villain protagonists or just more morally ambiguous characters. Sympathetic portrayal of an (undeniably evil) priest/paladin of Asmodeus would rub me the right way.
I planned out and pitched a book centering around Scyllua Darkhope back in the day, but that was about the time they decided they needed to kill her in an adventure module. Alas.
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Originally posted by Thauranil
And resurrected Helm and the Masked Lady, two of my favorites from the dead gods.
:koff: Shadowbane :koff:
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Originally posted by Dennis
Feature Larloch in a trilogy/pentad.
Totally! Larloch is actually one of the main antagonists in my current FR game. He's decided to fill Mystra's spot as the new god of magic in the Realms.
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CorellonsDevout
Great Reader
USA
2708 Posts |
Posted - 17 Dec 2012 : 22:13:19
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
Space aliens? Meh, we have Spelljammer for that. And Dorn CAN'T have kids- that was one of the parts of him that got replaced. It was even mentioned as part of the reason he tried to keep her from getting too close- because he was only "half a man". In more ways than one, apparently.
My personal wish list would include a Zak/Jarlaxle book(s). And maybe a "fix" for the end of the LP series. That was just horrid. (Not the series- the ending.) And lastly, I'd have liked to see A different ending to Ghost King. Cattie and Regis's deaths were just plain bad. They should never have gone out like that.
I agree (though before I read a story about Zak's past, I'd really like to know where his soul is. Yup, I'm hung up on that, don't judge me). But anything with Jarlaxle in it would be nice. I've missed him in the last two Drizzt books. I wouldn't mind some Kimmuriel, either. Kimmie! Or how about a novel about Bregon D'earthe, so we truly get an insight to its "inner workings". And a "fix" for LP would be nice too, as AI said, or how about even a follow-up series to LP. I wouldn't mind some more Q'arylynd.
Some Cale/Riven/Mags would be nice too, and more of the Unbroken Chain series. Another novel with Araevin, the protagonist from the Last Mythal series. A different ending to Empyrean Odyssey, in which Phaeraun didn't die again. Like LP, I enjoyed the series, just not the ending. I'd like to see a story with Kael, Aliiza's son. I'd say I'd like the dead gods to come back, but it sounds like the Sundering might take care of that. Add that to my impossible wishlist if it doesn't happen.
More Chosen of Nandowen (sp?) would be nice too. I felt there was a lot that still needed to be accomplished in that trilogy. Oh, and a story about Shevarash, yes yes.
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2012 : 02:18:37
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
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Originally posted by Dennis
Feature Larloch in a trilogy/pentad.
Totally! Larloch is actually one of the main antagonists in my current FR game. He's decided to fill Mystra's spot as the new god of magic in the Realms.
I don't want him to become a god. That's a sure way to get less and less novel time in the future. Besides, it's unlikely it'll happen---from what I've heard, Ed's latest novels revealed that The Simbul is the new Goddess of Magic. |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
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CorellonsDevout
Great Reader
USA
2708 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2012 : 23:31:18
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| Richard Baker does elves pretty well, too, I think. I enjoyed his Last Mythal and Blades of the Moonsea series. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 01:41:33
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Originally posted by CorellonsDevout
Richard Baker does elves pretty well, too, I think. I enjoyed his Last Mythal and Blades of the Moonsea series.
Steven Schend and Elaine Cunningham remain my "go-to" Realmsfolk who I think handle elves [in the Realms] the best. |
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realmsrider
Acolyte
USA
48 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 02:36:18
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Staying on topic for Impossible Wish List post:
Who would win a battle to the death, Steven Schend or Elaine Cunningham?
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36965 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 06:14:39
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Originally posted by realmsrider
Staying on topic for Impossible Wish List post:
Who would win a battle to the death, Steven Schend or Elaine Cunningham?
That's a really bizarre question. 
I don't know who'd win, but if it was a battle to the death, we'd all lose. I should prefer to keep my fave authors alive and kicking, thank you. |
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realmsrider
Acolyte
USA
48 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 07:30:55
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by realmsrider
Staying on topic for Impossible Wish List post:
Who would win a battle to the death, Steven Schend or Elaine Cunningham?
That's a really bizarre question.
I don't know who'd win, but if it was a battle to the death, we'd all lose. I should prefer to keep my fave authors alive and kicking, thank you.
I don't think it's so bizarre. It is, however, an impossible wish. For example, Richard Lee Byers and R.A. Salvatore are both real time weapon savvy fencers. That would be a pitched battle if ever there was one. I call Byers.
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ElaineCunningham
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 12:44:44
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by realmsrider
Staying on topic for Impossible Wish List post:
Who would win a battle to the death, Steven Schend or Elaine Cunningham?
That's a really bizarre question.
Wow. That really IS a bizarre question, made even more creepy by its presence in a thread entitled "Impossible Wishes."
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 13:04:24
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by realmsrider
Staying on topic for Impossible Wish List post:
Who would win a battle to the death, Steven Schend or Elaine Cunningham?
That's a really bizarre question.
I don't know who'd win, but if it was a battle to the death, we'd all lose. I should prefer to keep my fave authors alive and kicking, thank you.
As do I. |
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Rofocale
Acolyte
USA
23 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 13:05:24
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36965 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 16:17:19
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| My impossible wish list: no Cyric, and a greatly decreased amount of attention on drow, Shar, Shade, and anything even remotely related to the last three. |
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realmsrider
Acolyte
USA
48 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 16:17:21
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by realmsrider
Staying on topic for Impossible Wish List post:
Who would win a battle to the death, Steven Schend or Elaine Cunningham?
That's a really bizarre question.
Wow. That really IS a bizarre question, made even more creepy by its presence in a thread entitled "Impossible Wishes."
"Impossible Wish List" I want no harm to come to any authors nor do I promote any such real world violence. I am merely trying to keep my thread relevant and on topic. It was starting to devolve into which author could better handle the subject of elves and I could not allow that.
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phranctoast
Learned Scribe
USA
151 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 19:52:53
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| Liriel and Drizzt hooking up. Enough with Dahlia already :) |
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Rofocale
Acolyte
USA
23 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 20:43:01
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My impossible wish list: no Cyric, and a greatly decreased amount of attention on drow, Shar, Shade, and anything even remotely related to the last three.
No way. We need more drow! There's another one... I wish we had the drow pantheon back. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36965 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 22:35:16
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Originally posted by Rofocale
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My impossible wish list: no Cyric, and a greatly decreased amount of attention on drow, Shar, Shade, and anything even remotely related to the last three.
No way. We need more drow! There's another one... I wish we had the drow pantheon back.
I want the drow pantheon back, too. I'm just tired of of seeing a constant focus on a race that works best when operating from shadows and darkness. Continually putting them in the spotlight makes them as blasé and boring as any other race. |
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Chosen of Asmodeus
Master of Realmslore
1221 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 23:38:31
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Rofocale
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My impossible wish list: no Cyric, and a greatly decreased amount of attention on drow, Shar, Shade, and anything even remotely related to the last three.
No way. We need more drow! There's another one... I wish we had the drow pantheon back.
I want the drow pantheon back, too. I'm just tired of of seeing a constant focus on a race that works best when operating from shadows and darkness. Continually putting them in the spotlight makes them as blasé and boring as any other race.
That's mainly because they are as blasé and boring as any other race; they just like to act like they aren't. |
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realmsrider
Acolyte
USA
48 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2012 : 23:57:10
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Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Rofocale
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My impossible wish list: no Cyric, and a greatly decreased amount of attention on drow, Shar, Shade, and anything even remotely related to the last three.
No way. We need more drow! There's another one... I wish we had the drow pantheon back.
I want the drow pantheon back, too. I'm just tired of of seeing a constant focus on a race that works best when operating from shadows and darkness. Continually putting them in the spotlight makes them as blasé and boring as any other race.
That's mainly because they are as blasé and boring as any other race; they just like to act like they aren't.
Does anyone remember the horrid interpretation of the Drow in the Maztica trilogy? We should be happy to be serving our current Drow Overlords. |
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Rofocale
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 20 Dec 2012 : 00:39:03
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Originally posted by realmsrider
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Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Rofocale
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My impossible wish list: no Cyric, and a greatly decreased amount of attention on drow, Shar, Shade, and anything even remotely related to the last three.
No way. We need more drow! There's another one... I wish we had the drow pantheon back.
I want the drow pantheon back, too. I'm just tired of of seeing a constant focus on a race that works best when operating from shadows and darkness. Continually putting them in the spotlight makes them as blasé and boring as any other race.
That's mainly because they are as blasé and boring as any other race; they just like to act like they aren't.
Does anyone remember the horrid interpretation of the Drow in the Maztica trilogy? We should be happy to be serving our current Drow Overlords.
Haven't read that. Are they pretty central to the plot or are they only mentioned? I will have to read it, even if that wasn't exactly a ringing endorsement! |
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realmsrider
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 20 Dec 2012 : 00:57:57
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Originally posted by Rofocale
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Originally posted by realmsrider
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Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Rofocale
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My impossible wish list: no Cyric, and a greatly decreased amount of attention on drow, Shar, Shade, and anything even remotely related to the last three.
No way. We need more drow! There's another one... I wish we had the drow pantheon back.
I want the drow pantheon back, too. I'm just tired of of seeing a constant focus on a race that works best when operating from shadows and darkness. Continually putting them in the spotlight makes them as blasé and boring as any other race.
That's mainly because they are as blasé and boring as any other race; they just like to act like they aren't.
Does anyone remember the horrid interpretation of the Drow in the Maztica trilogy? We should be happy to be serving our current Drow Overlords.
Haven't read that. Are they pretty central to the plot or are they only mentioned? I will have to read it, even if that wasn't exactly a ringing endorsement!
Central to books 2 and 3. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 20 Dec 2012 : 01:06:37
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My impossible wish list: no Cyric, and a greatly decreased amount of attention on drow, Shar, Shade, and anything even remotely related to the last three.
It's not that I mind the extensive focus on the "Big Three Evils" Wooly mentions here. It's just that I would prefer the developers to just pick one and go with it. I'm not particularly keen on the continuing trend of having multiple Big Bads. I'd like to see more focus on just one of them, and developed deeply -- beyond the usual "They're really responsible for this," "They've got some dark and secret agenda," or "They're an ancient power seeking to reclaim lost glory." It all quickly becomes tiresome.
Thus, I feel like we need something more than just the usual for them. |
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Chosen of Asmodeus
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 20 Dec 2012 : 01:14:04
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My impossible wish list: no Cyric, and a greatly decreased amount of attention on drow, Shar, Shade, and anything even remotely related to the last three.
It's not that I mind the extensive focus on the "Big Three Evils" Wooly mentions here. It's just that I would prefer the developers to just pick one and go with it. I'm not particularly keen on the continuing trend of having multiple Big Bads. I'd like to see more focus on just one of them, and developed deeply -- beyond the usual "They're really responsible for this," "They've got some dark and secret agenda," or "They're an ancient power seeking to reclaim lost glory." It all quickly becomes tiresome.
Thus, I feel like we need something more than just the usual for them.
I think a lot of this comes down to them trying to balance the novel aspect with the gameplay aspect; multiple big bads gives the DM more options, keeping their motivations vague ("dark secret agenda") gives the DM more freedom in developing it on their own.
Personally I don't think the gods should be the big bads at all, but the bigger bads in the back ground, that looming, behind the scenes presence that's always beyond the player and the characters in the novels. Keep the big bad on a more human(oid) scale. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 20 Dec 2012 : 02:16:54
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Originally posted by Chosen of Asmodeus
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
My impossible wish list: no Cyric, and a greatly decreased amount of attention on drow, Shar, Shade, and anything even remotely related to the last three.
It's not that I mind the extensive focus on the "Big Three Evils" Wooly mentions here. It's just that I would prefer the developers to just pick one and go with it. I'm not particularly keen on the continuing trend of having multiple Big Bads. I'd like to see more focus on just one of them, and developed deeply -- beyond the usual "They're really responsible for this," "They've got some dark and secret agenda," or "They're an ancient power seeking to reclaim lost glory." It all quickly becomes tiresome.
Thus, I feel like we need something more than just the usual for them.
I think a lot of this comes down to them trying to balance the novel aspect with the gameplay aspect; multiple big bads gives the DM more options, keeping their motivations vague ("dark secret agenda") gives the DM more freedom in developing it on their own.
I don't have any issue with that. But, at the same time, developing the agendas of multiple Big Bads AT THE SAME TIME shouldn't always be the focus of the development of future Realmslore. When most current events are shaped by either the drow, Cyric's machinations, Shar's reach for great power, the expanding dominion of the Shadovar, or the further "undeadening" of Thay, it becomes problematic for one to properly follow things.
I want to take an active interest in what these powers are trying to accomplish... but I would also like the time to properly appreciate what one is attempting, before the next power starts agitating things. |
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