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Shadowlord
Master of Realmslore

USA
1298 Posts

Posted - 03 Feb 2004 :  21:04:14  Show Profile  Visit Shadowlord's Homepage Send Shadowlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Winterfox

What flail? Most flails, well, are useable to fighters. Besides, the best weapons are not cleric-usable, anyway. Think Ravager. Think Sarevok with the Ravager or the vorpal sword.

Cleric in ToB == worthless!

The "level 10" spells clerics get are quite awful. Wizards and druids get better summons; wizards get better area-of-affect offensive spells (Dragon's breath, anyone?); druids can take over the healing duties; any melee class can, well, melee better anyway.

Not that the combat in ToB's challenging enough to warrant an ideal, maximized party, though. Most of my fights in that game go something like this---

1. Wizard casts alacrity
2. Wizard casts timestop then proceeds to strip protections from enemy mages, if any. If not, dragon's breath, Abi's horrid wilting, etc
3. Timestop runs out. Enemies that survive get mowed down by the fighters.

I took Anomen along only because of his interaction with Kelsey.


You do know that Kelsey is a mod, so not everyone knows who that is.......

The Chosen of Vhaeraun
"Nature is governed by certain immutable rules. By virtue of claw and fang, the lion will always triumph over the goat.Given time, the pounding of the sea will wear away the stone. And when dark elves mingle with the lighter races, the offspring invariably take after the dark parent. It is all much the same. That which is greater shall prevail. Our numbers increase steadily, both through birth and conquest. The dark elves are the dominant race, so ordained by the gods." Ka'Narlist of the Ilythiiri.
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RaVeN1463
Seeker

USA
96 Posts

Posted - 06 Feb 2004 :  01:29:20  Show Profile  Visit RaVeN1463's Homepage Send RaVeN1463 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Flail of Ages maybe? I find Clerics good versitle medium melee and support casters. Restoring party members is a valueble quality they have.
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Winterfox
Senior Scribe

895 Posts

Posted - 06 Feb 2004 :  04:58:21  Show Profile  Visit Winterfox's Homepage Send Winterfox a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cyric

that flail that does cold,fire,acid,poisone and elektrik okey it was a 5+ but still and magic resistance and slow foes. And cleric rules level40 cleric would take level 30 fighter i think max was.



Er, that's stupid. Try cleric vs. fighter of equal level.

As I said, the Flail of Ages is useable by fighters, too. Point?
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe

Norway
323 Posts

Posted - 08 Feb 2004 :  02:44:07  Show Profile  Visit EcThelion's Homepage Send EcThelion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The LEvel 8 Fighter / Level 31 Mage ownz u all. HE Can use the Flail too. Not that he'll need to, though. The fighter/Mage stcks with the Staff of the Magi. The Flail is for Vulgar people, that have not the brains to utilize the power of magic to fight for them, rather than fighting themselves.

(Hmmm... I'm starting to turn into Cyric here. )

Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P
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Winterfox
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Posted - 08 Feb 2004 :  08:39:06  Show Profile  Visit Winterfox's Homepage Send Winterfox a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thief/mage can do some pretty crazy damage. Timestop + improved haste + backstab backstab backstab.
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe

Norway
323 Posts

Posted - 09 Feb 2004 :  09:49:23  Show Profile  Visit EcThelion's Homepage Send EcThelion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Backstab doesn't even work on the more powerful creatures. In fact it hardly ever works on the creatures you'd want to use it on. Besides; you hardly get any Backstab bonus if u dual-class it, and still have enough XP to reach level 31, and if u Multi-class it... well... that's just taboo

And you'd have to run back and forth and hide, and ****. You'll barely have time to do 3 - 6 attacks during the timestop. Besides; Mages rarely go into melee. It's just *vulgar*

Alcatry/Timestop/Imprisonment ownz that any day. And if ur up against weaker foes you can wack them to death with your walking stick. Who said 3 points in Two-Handed Weapons, and 5 in Quarterstaffs hurt?

Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P
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Ezekil
Acolyte

Norway
22 Posts

Posted - 10 Feb 2004 :  02:19:20  Show Profile  Visit Ezekil's Homepage Send Ezekil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
When i 1st played bg2-soa i used a human wiz and then cracked the game with a exp-cap buster... ended up at 20th lvl. WOW, that's what i call power. when you play wiz you allso open a few cool options in the game such as owning the planar sphere and getting apprentices to make magic items for you...

Ezekil
"If you are going to walk on thin ice, you might as well dance"
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe

Norway
323 Posts

Posted - 10 Feb 2004 :  10:14:56  Show Profile  Visit EcThelion's Homepage Send EcThelion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
W0haha! I laugh at your puny, insignificant, level 20 wizard! "WAHAHAHAHA" Did you hear that? That was me laughing! "WAHAHAHAHA!!!"

Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P
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Ezekil
Acolyte

Norway
22 Posts

Posted - 10 Feb 2004 :  23:37:32  Show Profile  Visit Ezekil's Homepage Send Ezekil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So... EcThelion... Tell me, what power do you posess that I do not? And you did know i was talking about Shadows of Amn, not Throne of Bhaal? And remember a good laugh does not allways make your life longer...

Ezekil
"If you are going to walk on thin ice, you might as well dance"
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe

Norway
323 Posts

Posted - 11 Feb 2004 :  00:32:16  Show Profile  Visit EcThelion's Homepage Send EcThelion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmmmm... well. You have already admited to be breaking the rules of the game, so why not me?

I got the ability to cast "Ec'Thelion's Imploding Orb" And the effects of that sepll are somewhat... desicive... Just about 100D100+100 damage, Slay Creature, Death, Disintegrate, and Imprisonment.

If you want a character that only uses legit stuff (), but has cracked the XP-cap, I might as well allways direct you here Just remove some of the spells (I don't think you'll have to remove that many, though) and You've got yourself a genuine SoA-char... with wa-a-a-ay too much XP, ofcourse.

Anyways; I've discovered the power of the Fighter/Mage Dual-Class! Da űber-ownage 2E-class! Mwe-ha-ha!!!

Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P
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Zaknafein
Seeker

USA
77 Posts

Posted - 11 Feb 2004 :  03:38:20  Show Profile  Visit Zaknafein's Homepage Send Zaknafein a Private Message  Reply with Quote
mages...i prefer Sorcerers. i think they are more fun since you dont have to learn spells, you earn them as you lvl and have a bigger stock of them.


Zaknafein Do'Urden: mentor, teacher, friend....To Zak, the one who inspired my courage. -Drizzt Do'Urden

Full plate and packing steel.
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EcThelion
Learned Scribe

Norway
323 Posts

Posted - 11 Feb 2004 :  13:09:45  Show Profile  Visit EcThelion's Homepage Send EcThelion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mages have the bigger stock of spells, you gumball.
Sorcerers are for the lazy, and unskilled.

Ec'Thelion, formerly known as Forgotten One, now known as Ec'Thelion the Overpowered.
Currently not all that active. I'm preoccupied with Warcraft III for the moment. Bite me :P
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Ezindir the dark
Senior Scribe

Norway
603 Posts

Posted - 11 Feb 2004 :  20:57:28  Show Profile  Visit Ezindir the dark's Homepage Send Ezindir the dark a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mages are more challengin, thats rigth. But I think Sorcerees are a little cooler at some times, but it depends on the character.

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Alruane
Senior Scribe

USA
434 Posts

Posted - 24 Nov 2013 :  21:34:28  Show Profile Send Alruane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gnomes cannot be Monks, only humans. However, Mage/Kensai is pretty strong. Overrated, but strong. A human monk is very new and fun to play regardless.

" I wonder if you are destined to be forgotten. Will your life fade in the shadow of greater beings?"
~Joneleth Irenicus

"Wisdom? My dear boy, wisdom is knowing that you do not know everything. Wisdom is realizing, a wise man ALWAYS has questions. Not answers."

~Alruane
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Light
Learned Scribe

Australia
233 Posts

Posted - 09 Dec 2013 :  14:23:38  Show Profile Send Light a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Alruane mate I love your enthusiasm but come on! The dates man the dates! I come back for hiatus and click on the "active posts since last online" and see tonnes of threads about Baldur's Gate but it's just you making belated posts! Although... that's what I'm doing....

"A true warrior needs no sword" - Thors (Vinland Saga)
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Alruane
Senior Scribe

USA
434 Posts

Posted - 09 Dec 2013 :  16:07:59  Show Profile Send Alruane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I cannot help it! I love that part of the realm, almost as much as I love Waterdeep. Plus I kind of arrived to the party late, finally became a member of the site in November of this year.

" I wonder if you are destined to be forgotten. Will your life fade in the shadow of greater beings?"
~Joneleth Irenicus

"Wisdom? My dear boy, wisdom is knowing that you do not know everything. Wisdom is realizing, a wise man ALWAYS has questions. Not answers."

~Alruane
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