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Merrith
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 04 Sep 2012 : 20:42:24
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No spoilers, I only just picked it up and am 30 pages in, but some JUICY Realmslore even that quickly in. I won't spoil it but definitely something I've always wanted to know.
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2012 : 19:01:33
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| Just got my copy. Will probably start it tonight, gotta finish Darkwalker first. |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2012 : 19:55:00
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Broke down and started reading.
Symrustar Auglamyr Chosen of Mystra... |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
Edited by - Brimstone on 05 Sep 2012 19:55:33 |
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Merrith
Learned Scribe
135 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2012 : 20:22:02
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Originally posted by Brimstone
Broke down and started reading.
Symrustar Auglamyr Chosen of Mystra...
Haha, indeed :) |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 05 Sep 2012 : 22:53:35
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Which makes sense. As El said in Elminster in Myth Drannor, "Mystra has claimed her. She will serve the Lady of Mysteries now." |
Every beginning has an end. |
Edited by - Dennis on 05 Sep 2012 22:54:32 |
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Seravin
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1305 Posts |
Posted - 05 Sep 2012 : 23:54:36
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| Got through it. Absolutely hate what happened to one of my fave characters. Sigh. I don't think I'm going to be following the Realms onto the next incarnation, not that I have beyond Ed's work in this post spell plague world. What *are* they thinking? |
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Caolin
Senior Scribe
769 Posts |
Posted - 06 Sep 2012 : 06:57:02
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Originally posted by Seravin
Got through it. Absolutely hate what happened to one of my fave characters. Sigh. I don't think I'm going to be following the Realms onto the next incarnation, not that I have beyond Ed's work in this post spell plague world. What *are* they thinking?
Well, I'm sorry that you couldn't bring yourself to read some of the other authors work. Regardless of what you think of the Spellplague and the time jump, they have done an amazing job at telling stories. Which when it comes down to it is all that matters to me. I could care less, what crazy plot lines management takes the Realms down. As long as the story telling is of high quality I will still support the Realms fiction. I suggest you open up a bit and try out a few novels from authors not named Greenwood. |
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Seravin
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1305 Posts |
Posted - 06 Sep 2012 : 15:29:27
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The setting is what motivates me to read; even a mediocre story set in the Realms I know/love is great for me. A great story in the Realms I love is amazing and one of the top joys I get in life. Especially if I can cross reference it with my sourcebooks and discuss it with my friends.
If I want a great story set in a place that isn't the Realms I know/love, I'll read Game of Thrones or any number of great fiction books out there across the genres.
I don't feel the post time jump Realms is a setting I care to know more about. But heck I haven't liked the setting much since the Shade was brought back, so I'm admittedly a grump.
Which is NOT to say that the authors haven't done amazing jobs telling great stories, I'll agree with you no issues!! I don't mean to slight them at all, just the setting they are writing in and the (in my opinion) GOD AWFUL turn it has taken since the fools decided to initiate the timejump/spellplauge.
We're a bit off topic. I'm very glad to hear that the authors will be allowed to write in any time period once this 4th edition is behind us. Ed needs to finish writing more about the Knights of Myth Drannor. |
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Tyrant
Senior Scribe
USA
586 Posts |
Posted - 06 Sep 2012 : 22:30:12
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| I bought my copy earlier today. I will read it once I am done with SW: X-Wing Book 7, Solo Command (which is good so far). I did skip to the end to see what goes down and there was an interesting revelation that I hope is explored/explained in the previous pages concerning Manshoon. |
Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.
-The Sith Code
Teenage Sith zombies, Tulkh thought-how in the moons of Bogden had it all started? Every so often, the universe must just get bored and decide to really cut loose. -Star Wars: Red Harvest |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
12229 Posts |
Posted - 06 Sep 2012 : 23:37:15
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| about 2/3 of the way through, and it just hit me that the Simbul could become the next Mystra and I wouldn't be upset in the slightest. El could still be in love with Mystra and it would absolutely fit. |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
Phillip aka Sleyvas |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 07 Sep 2012 : 03:02:32
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Originally posted by Tyrant
I bought my copy earlier today. I will read it once I am done with SW: X-Wing Book 7, Solo Command (which is good so far). I did skip to the end to see what goes down and there was an interesting revelation that I hope is explored/explained in the previous pages concerning Manshoon.
The Wraith Squadron books were really good IMO. |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Tyrant
Senior Scribe
USA
586 Posts |
Posted - 07 Sep 2012 : 04:06:54
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quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone
quote:
Originally posted by Tyrant
I bought my copy earlier today. I will read it once I am done with SW: X-Wing Book 7, Solo Command (which is good so far). I did skip to the end to see what goes down and there was an interesting revelation that I hope is explored/explained in the previous pages concerning Manshoon.
The Wraith Squadron books were really good IMO.
I looked them up after seeing the listing for Mercy Kill because it sounded interesting. The blurb for Wraith Squadron is what got me to read the series. I picked up Mercy Kill today also so it is on my to-read list in the near future after Elminster Enraged, Charon's Claw, and the other 2 Rogue Squadron books. |
Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.
-The Sith Code
Teenage Sith zombies, Tulkh thought-how in the moons of Bogden had it all started? Every so often, the universe must just get bored and decide to really cut loose. -Star Wars: Red Harvest |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 07 Sep 2012 : 04:30:12
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| I almost picked up Mercy Kill yesterday. I have read all of the X-Wing novels and found them to be really good. I like them more than I do the books with Luke/Leia/Han/Chewie. Go figure... |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
Edited by - Brimstone on 07 Sep 2012 04:30:47 |
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
1446 Posts |
Posted - 07 Sep 2012 : 20:17:33
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| Going to get my copy today. *In Homer's voice*: WOOHOO! I usually snag novels the first day they come out, the last few days has been killing me with the suspense! |
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Merrith
Learned Scribe
135 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2012 : 01:05:12
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So finished it finally. Wooooo some big revelations that I won't spoil here. I understand where you're coming from Sarevin, because I love the Realms setting as much as you do...I just don't see it as stagnant. Certain stories can't go on forever, but as long as they are told in a way that gives the important ones weight, I'm okay with it.
Pretty pumped to see where things go from here. The big revelations leave me with some questions though, will see what happens going forward. |
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
1446 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2012 : 05:56:30
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Originally posted by Merrith
So finished it finally. Wooooo some big revelations that I won't spoil here. I understand where you're coming from Sarevin, because I love the Realms setting as much as you do...I just don't see it as stagnant. Certain stories can't go on forever, but as long as they are told in a way that gives the important ones weight, I'm okay with it.
Pretty pumped to see where things go from here. The big revelations leave me with some questions though, will see what happens going forward.
Same I just finished it moments ago. Last couple chapters had me reading as fast as I could! Definitely looking forward to what Ed's next title will be. :) |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2012 : 16:46:45
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| Interesting development with Hesperdan... |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
Edited by - Brimstone on 08 Sep 2012 16:47:22 |
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Tyrant
Senior Scribe
USA
586 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2012 : 17:34:48
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| I finished Solo Command so I started on Elminster Enraged. I'm about 30 or so pages in so far. Since I skimmed the end I am hoping there are some explanations, particularly with Manshoon. |
Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.
-The Sith Code
Teenage Sith zombies, Tulkh thought-how in the moons of Bogden had it all started? Every so often, the universe must just get bored and decide to really cut loose. -Star Wars: Red Harvest |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2012 : 18:00:13
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| Just finished El Enraged. Whoa Nellie... |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
1446 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2012 : 19:14:20
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| I could have read another 50 pages of the "enraged" part. :) Only thing missing from the book was El saying: "I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum...and I'm all out of bubble gum." was a fun read,that's for sure. :) |
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Entromancer
Senior Scribe
USA
388 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2012 : 22:50:43
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| Could I pick up and enjoy the first of the "Sage of Shadowdale" series (Elminster Must Die!, I think?) and enjoy it with only Elminster: the Making of a Mage and Elminster in Myth Drannor under my belt? Your comments have me itching to read these latest novels. |
"...the will is everything. The will to act."--Ra's Al Ghul
"Suffering builds character."--Talia Al Ghul |
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe
USA
804 Posts |
Posted - 09 Sep 2012 : 02:57:24
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Yes, I'd say you could. The more Elminster novels you've read, the more impact his condition in El Must Die! will have, but you could certainly read and enjoy the entire Sage of Shadowdale trilogy (Elminster Must Die!, Bury Elminster Deep, and Elminster Enraged) without having to read the books in between.
Eventually, though, you really should read Elminster In Hell.
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 09 Sep 2012 : 02:58:44
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quote:
Originally posted by Eilserus
I could have read another 50 pages of the "enraged" part. :) Only thing missing from the book was El saying: "I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum...and I'm all out of bubble gum." was a fun read,that's for sure. :)
El sure did kick alot of arse at the end. |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
Alaundo of Candlekeep |
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Yoss
Learned Scribe
USA
259 Posts |
Posted - 09 Sep 2012 : 08:32:23
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| Uh, so I just read the title of the thread as "Elminster engaged". What? Haha. I need more coffee. |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
12229 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2012 : 00:52:50
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spoiler below ....
so I was pretty much certain El was going to run around blasting everything under the sun in the book, so no really big surprise at the ending. I enjoyed the book, but I was kind of cheesed off by Elminster coming to a realization that Manshoon will only be able to be killed with the aid of a god or 2 gods working in concert. I'm sorry, Manshoon's not all that. Sure, he was powerful... he got his comeuppance with the Manshoon Wars. He's still nothing to sneeze at. He doesn't require a god to kill him. I do half wonder at my earlier guess that the Simbul and Mystra might become one and the same, since she gathered all this "blueflame" power and then faded to nothing kissing Elminster. I wouldn't be adverse to a Mystra with a bit of a temper. |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
Phillip aka Sleyvas |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2012 : 01:28:24
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Originally posted by sleyvas
...but I was kind of cheesed off by Elminster coming to a realization that Manshoon will only be able to be killed with the aid of a god or 2 gods working in concert.
Seriously? Did El say why? [I don't mind spoilers. I probably wouldn't read the book, anyway. But curious nonetheless.] |
Every beginning has an end. |
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Seravin
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1305 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2012 : 02:01:06
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Spoiler tag just in case.
Yeah I really want to know what happened to the Simbul. If we've heard the last of her, I'd be surprised and dissapointed. I think her and El need to be reunited or she needs to become the new incarnation of Mystra. Fading to nothingness after doing all the hard work seems so anticlimactic for the character. But then yes, almost all (well, all) of the 4th edition changes to me have been terrible so it wouldn't surprise me. |
Edited by - Seravin on 10 Sep 2012 02:02:06 |
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
1446 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2012 : 02:49:48
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| By what she poured into him, and what he gave up willingly, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case already. |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2012 : 17:50:53
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Heh. Reading this thread thus far, I have just two comments:
Seravin, you haven't seen the last of that particular character, whose tale is very much "not done."
sleyvas, don't assume El was unmistaken about Manshoon. There's more to reveal here, too, in future.
Ed works a longer, deeper, more multiplayered game than most give him credit for.
And Dennis, if you don't read the book or any of Ed's fiction, that rather hampers your full understanding of the Realms. In turn leading to a different grasp of the Shades, Thay, and so on than the rest of us. Ed remains THE canon lore source for the Realms, and his novels are loaded with Realmslore. You don't have to like them, but if you want to talk about certain matters in the Realms . . .
love to all,
THO |
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Seravin
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1305 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2012 : 18:16:43
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| THANK YOU THO :):):):) You made my week! |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 10 Sep 2012 : 19:09:22
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A pleasure.
Give yourself two or three weeks, then dip into ENRAGED again, now that you know that, and see how some scenes "read" now, bolstered by knowing that.
For me, considering how often The Simbul shapechanged in the "home" Realms campaign, so we Knights were always meeting her as a bird or a fox or a horse or a rustic (male) stablehand, surprisingly little has changed about her, from my point of view. 
love,
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