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creyzi4zb12
Learned Scribe
Philippines
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 Posted - 31 Aug 2012 : 21:53:50
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Anybody know any Epic non-spellcasters in the realms.
Probably the munchkin ones would be nice, like Kane, Shurrupak, that Gladiator from Thay who beat a Dracolich with a stick, etc.
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 31 Aug 2012 : 23:02:50
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Malik, who beats everyone, even the gods, with his lies. |
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Quale
Master of Realmslore
1757 Posts |
Posted - 11 Sep 2012 : 21:43:22
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Abordabe from Narfell, lvl. 30 fighter
Dabron Sashenstar
Naergoth Bladelord of the Cult
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2012 : 00:49:37
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Possibly Shala Karanok, too. |
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_Jarlaxle_
Senior Scribe
Germany
584 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2012 : 14:20:22
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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore
India
1591 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2012 : 14:47:13
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| Fflar Starbrow Melruth who slew many a demon lord, |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2012 : 15:25:00
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Dorn Graybrook, the Dragon-Slayer featured in RLB's The Year of Rogue Dragons. |
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Kno
Senior Scribe
452 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2012 : 15:36:53
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Captain Grafalcon
Learned Scribe
Brazil
131 Posts |
Posted - 12 Sep 2012 : 19:10:15
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Azoun IV Obarskyr, featured in The Cormyr trilogy
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"Surely you recognize that armies carrying banners are almost always thieves—until they win."
Jarlaxle, mercenary leader of Bregan D'aerthe. |
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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore
India
1591 Posts |
Posted - 20 Sep 2012 : 17:31:34
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Originally posted by Dennis
Dorn Graybrook, the Dragon-Slayer featured in RLB's The Year of Rogue Dragons.
Good pick Dennis i loved that character with my favorite moment being the really cool way he brought down a dragon with a single arrow in the third book of the series. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 25 Sep 2012 : 08:53:45
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Hmm. Actually, I'm just being objective and answer the OP when memory serves. It doesn't mean I like those characters, except Malik. And I certainly don't like Dorn, sorry. In fact, very rarely do non-spellcasters manage to win me.
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Fyodor the Berserker, and the monk Malark Springhill, before he became a Red Wizard. |
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MrHedgehog
Senior Scribe
688 Posts |
Posted - 25 Sep 2012 : 19:42:30
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| Spellcasters have the ability to extend their lives which gives them more of a chance to practice their arts. A non-spellcaster could buy potions of vitality or whatever, but they would be less accessible. |
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Firestorm
Senior Scribe
Canada
826 Posts |
Posted - 07 Oct 2012 : 23:45:09
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quote:
Originally posted by creyzi4zb12
Anybody know any Epic non-spellcasters in the realms.
Probably the munchkin ones would be nice, like Kane, Shurrupak, that Gladiator from Thay who beat a Dracolich with a stick, etc.
The Gladiator from Thay would be Hamesetis. Was a scary dude in 2e before they rolled his stats back in 3e(To be fair, the entire "Fangs of Set" group was ridiculous in 2e). Same with Shurrupak, who still is scary as hell, but was more scary in 2e.
I miss the "old Empires" sourcebook and have been trying to find another copy for a long time. mine met with an unfortunate case of "lent to a friend" who moved away without returning it |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 08 Oct 2012 : 02:49:06
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When you say "non-spellcasters," what are your parameters?
For instance, would you consider a bard to be a spellcaster? Technically, bards do cast spells, but they're nowhere in the same field as a devoted wizard or cleric.
How about someone who is mostly a fighter or rogue but maybe dabbles in magic or has supernatural abilities? (like Drizzt, for instance)
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Firestorm
Senior Scribe
Canada
826 Posts |
Posted - 08 Oct 2012 : 03:32:57
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
When you say "non-spellcasters," what are your parameters?
For instance, would you consider a bard to be a spellcaster? Technically, bards do cast spells, but they're nowhere in the same field as a devoted wizard or cleric.
How about someone who is mostly a fighter or rogue but maybe dabbles in magic or has supernatural abilities? (like Drizzt, for instance)
Cheers
or Shurrupak lol. 20th level fighter, but also 7th level Southern mage with access to all those crazy Mulhorandi spells in 2e
Upon rereading, those spells were ridiculous. Damage mirror was a 2nd level spell. Some of the higher level spells....Javelin, Devastate, Agitate wounds....ugh
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Firestorm
Senior Scribe
Canada
826 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2012 : 23:32:30
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Originally posted by Quale
Abordabe from Narfell, lvl. 30 fighter
Dabron Sashenstar
Naergoth Bladelord of the Cult
Abordabe. I almost forgot about him. he was detailed in the bloodstone lands book. A 65 year old 5'3 145 pound 30th level fighter and leader of a barbarian tribe should have been unforgettable.
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
1446 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2012 : 23:39:43
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 05 Nov 2012 : 16:03:34
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Zak, Selfaril and Fyodor are not epic-level. King Azoun IV wasn't epic level either.
Shuruppak, yes, he is epic-level. |
SiNafay Vrinn, the daughter of Lloth, from Ched Nasad!
http://zireael07.wordpress.com/ |
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
1446 Posts |
Posted - 05 Nov 2012 : 16:43:00
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| i guess i'm not sure what constitutes epic level then. i thought it was anything over 20. ;) |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2012 : 10:21:20
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Originally posted by Eilserus
i guess i'm not sure what constitutes epic level then. i thought it was anything over 20. ;)
Anything over 20, yes, but in 3e and not in AD&D. Levels of certain characters, especially multi-class ones, vary wildly between editions. |
SiNafay Vrinn, the daughter of Lloth, from Ched Nasad!
http://zireael07.wordpress.com/ |
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Firestorm
Senior Scribe
Canada
826 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2012 : 15:17:15
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Originally posted by Eilserus
Zaknafein Do'Urden (24th level drow male fighter)
When I look at these 2ed stats, I often think they would get rolled a bit in 3e, or at least, Zak would certainly have some Rogue levels, etc.
Even some 3e stats would be changed. Telamont Tanthul for example, was given max levels in Wizard 20, Archmage 5 and Shadow Adept 10, but most people think it would be significantly higher with the "max" things changed and new epic level progression |
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Firestorm
Senior Scribe
Canada
826 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2012 : 15:21:57
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Originally posted by Zireael
Zak, Selfaril and Fyodor are not epic-level. King Azoun IV wasn't epic level either.
Shuruppak, yes, he is epic-level.
Azoun was on the cusp of Epic level. Zaknafein certainly was |
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
1446 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2012 : 16:08:29
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| Rogue levels with Zaknafein would make sense considering Matron Malice used him as an assassin to butcher the priestesses of rival houses. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 07 Nov 2012 : 04:36:24
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I would personally consider Arik epic. To survive virtually unscathed amidst a fleet of phaerimm, beholders, and even after facing Telamont and all the princes, is almost a miracle. |
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Firestorm
Senior Scribe
Canada
826 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2012 : 06:03:52
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Originally posted by Dennis
I would personally consider Arik epic. To survive virtually unscathed amidst a fleet of phaerimm, beholders, and even after facing Telamont and all the princes, is almost a miracle.
I am tired and drawing a blank. Who is Arik? |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1607 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2012 : 10:03:15
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quote:
Originally posted by Firestorm
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis
I would personally consider Arik epic. To survive virtually unscathed amidst a fleet of phaerimm, beholders, and even after facing Telamont and all the princes, is almost a miracle.
I am tired and drawing a blank. Who is Arik?
A stone giant priest and one of the main characters in the Return of the Archwizards series. |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
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_Jarlaxle_
Senior Scribe
Germany
584 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2012 : 11:29:41
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| A stone giant has a level adjustment of +4 so if Arik was epic he was at least a level 17 cleric which would allow him to cast level 9 spells and I don't remember hin casting anything near that power level. |
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Firestorm
Senior Scribe
Canada
826 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2012 : 14:12:12
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Originally posted by Barastir
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Originally posted by Firestorm
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Originally posted by Dennis
I would personally consider Arik epic. To survive virtually unscathed amidst a fleet of phaerimm, beholders, and even after facing Telamont and all the princes, is almost a miracle.
I am tired and drawing a blank. Who is Arik?
A stone giant priest and one of the main characters in the Return of the Archwizards series.
Aris was the stone Giant in return of the Archwizards :p
not Arik |
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Barastir
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1607 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2012 : 14:50:28
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quote:
Originally posted by Firestorm
Aris was the stone Giant in return of the Archwizards :p
not Arik
Well, since the thread is about non-spellcasters, maybe Dennis would be talking about Malik, a thief and Chosen of Cyric, IIRC. |
"Goodness is not a natural state, but must be
fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."
The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
(by Ed Greenwood) |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2012 : 18:43:47
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quote:
Originally posted by Barastir
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Originally posted by Firestorm
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Originally posted by Dennis
I would personally consider Arik epic. To survive virtually unscathed amidst a fleet of phaerimm, beholders, and even after facing Telamont and all the princes, is almost a miracle.
I am tired and drawing a blank. Who is Arik?
A stone giant priest and one of the main characters in the Return of the Archwizards series.
Sorry, I meant Aris. [Blame Ayrik for that. ] |
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_Jarlaxle_
Senior Scribe
Germany
584 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2012 : 13:22:08
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Originally posted by Barastir
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Originally posted by Firestorm
Aris was the stone Giant in return of the Archwizards :p
not Arik
Well, since the thread is about non-spellcasters, maybe Dennis would be talking about Malik, a thief and Chosen of Cyric, IIRC.
Afaik Malik never did anything that shows he has class levels at all, or maybe Rogue 1 at most.
All the cool stuff about him comes from him beeing choosen by cyric and his inability for beeing harmed oder lying from the trial of the gods. |
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Epic Non-Spellcasters in the Realms
