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Firestorm
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 Posted - 09 Nov 2012 : 19:30:34
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Aris was the stone Giant in return of the Archwizards :p
not Arik
Well, since the thread is about non-spellcasters, maybe Dennis would be talking about Malik, a thief and Chosen of Cyric, IIRC.
Afaik Malik never did anything that shows he has class levels at all, or maybe Rogue 1 at most.
All the cool stuff about him comes from him beeing choosen by cyric and his inability for beeing harmed oder lying from the trial of the gods.
I dunno. I think he would be at least a level 8 :)
Improved uncanny dodge, Sneak attack, trap sense :p
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Dennis
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Posted - 09 Nov 2012 : 23:21:48
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How about Sunbright Steelshanks? Didn't like him, but he was powerful. Managed to kill a flint demon not even Lady Polaris could defeat. |
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xaeyruudh
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 10 Nov 2012 : 08:56:34
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A stone giant has a level adjustment of +4 so if Arik was epic he was at least a level 17 cleric which would allow him to cast level 9 spells and I don't remember hin casting anything near that power level.
I don't remember Aris, but that's probably because I was discouraged by the apparently dumbness of the phaerimm in the early part of the series and never finished it. However, a stone giant has 14 HD, plus that +4 level adjustment (+6 for an elder), so a stone giant should only need 3 class levels to be considered epic in 3e. Just sayin. |
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_Jarlaxle_
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Posted - 12 Nov 2012 : 14:03:03
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I don't think that works that way.
Afaik the HD part is only considred for monsters. If you start a new stone giant character on level 1 he would be considered to have an ECL of 5 because of the +4 level adjustment, not 19 because a standard stone giant monster has 14HD.
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Naeryndam
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Posted - 03 Dec 2012 : 17:35:45
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| Ryld Argith maybe? Actually... Drizzt? Does he count? |
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Dennis
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Posted - 04 Dec 2012 : 01:24:07
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No, he doesn't count. He's TOO EPIC that not even Ao could touch him. |
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Knight of the Gate
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Posted - 04 Dec 2012 : 08:00:17
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creyzi4zb12
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Posted - 22 Dec 2012 : 06:11:21
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How about Sunbright Steelshanks? Didn't like him, but he was powerful. Managed to kill a flint demon not even Lady Polaris could defeat.
I don't think it was a flint demon. I think sysquemalyn was probably something more |
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Dennis
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Posted - 22 Dec 2012 : 06:58:37
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Originally posted by Dennis
How about Sunbright Steelshanks? Didn't like him, but he was powerful. Managed to kill a flint demon not even Lady Polaris could defeat.
I don't think it was a flint demon. I think sysquemalyn was probably something more.
No, not exactly demon, but monster, a former human altered by both arcane magic and the negative energies of the Nine Hells.
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Onto the littered floor of the cavern trod the flint monster. Its horny feet, sharp-edged as granite, crunched underfoot a hundred bones, hooves, horns, jawbones full of fangs, rib cages, segments of tails without flesh. That hundreds had died here meant nothing to the monster, for it was obsessed with its own goal.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 22 Dec 2012 : 16:16:34
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Originally posted by Dennis
How about Sunbright Steelshanks? Didn't like him, but he was powerful. Managed to kill a flint demon not even Lady Polaris could defeat.
I don't think it was a flint demon. I think sysquemalyn was probably something more.
No, not exactly demon, but monster, a former human altered by both arcane magic and the negative energies of the Nine Hells.
An excerpt from Mortal Consequences:
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Onto the littered floor of the cavern trod the flint monster. Its horny feet, sharp-edged as granite, crunched underfoot a hundred bones, hooves, horns, jawbones full of fangs, rib cages, segments of tails without flesh. That hundreds had died here meant nothing to the monster, for it was obsessed with its own goal.
I think it still could have been a unique fiend of some sort. "Monster" is used later in this same quote as a generic term, so "flint monster" was likely nothing more than a slightly more descriptive and yet still generic term -- like calling a stone golem a "walking statue". |
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Dennis
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Posted - 22 Dec 2012 : 16:47:40
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Probably the reason Emery didn't use "fiend," and instead used the generic "monster" is because Sysquemalyn's state didn't exactly resemble that of a fiend, or any other creatures known at that time. |
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Epic Non-Spellcasters in the Realms
