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drkissinger1
Acolyte
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 Posted - 29 Aug 2012 : 03:59:41
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Has there been any published content that explains Alaundo's moniker for 1479? Or has that meaning yet to be revealed? 1478 was fairly obvious: The Dark Circle was Szass Tam's talisman for the Unmaking. But I've yet to piece together what the Ageless One entails.
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 29 Aug 2012 : 04:01:36
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I believe it is a reference to Elmisnter. At least, thats the consensus.
There was an article with that title on the WotC site released just before 4e was unveiled - I can't seem to find it now. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 29 Aug 2012 : 04:31:25
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Most likely. Or maybe it refers to Tchazzar, when he returned to Chessenta after a very long absence. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 29 Aug 2012 : 05:05:38
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Keep in mind that the names of years don't necessarily refer to anything major in that year. The Year of the Ageless One, for example, could have just been the birth year of someone who would go on to live for an exceptionally long time. It could have been the year that some of Larloch's plans reached a tipping point and became inevitable conclusions instead of hoped-for results. It could have been the year someone found a large cache of potions of longevity.
Or something else entirely. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 29 Aug 2012 : 05:35:43
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Yes, but the names of more recent years (late 14th century) usually match with some historically significant events, like The Year of Blue Fire, The Year of Lightning Storms, and as the OP indicated, The Year of Dark Circle. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 29 Aug 2012 : 06:05:26
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Wooly has the right of it.
Alaundo and Augathra's prophecies are cryptic and poetic, not descriptive, and many of them are nothing more than the year names. The idea is not that they definitely refer to large-scale events: sages differ, even after the fact, on what the prophecies refer to. These guys are crazy mystics, not big-man-theory historians, and their visions were not all of the RSE-type events that TSR/WotC has trained some of us to think "important." |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 29 Aug 2012 : 06:24:25
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Originally posted by Dennis
Yes, but the names of more recent years (late 14th century) usually match with some historically significant events, like The Year of Blue Fire, The Year of Lightning Storms, and as the OP indicated, The Year of Dark Circle.
Umm, the "Year of the Dark Circle" was put into the Roll of Years by Steven Schend and his acolytes years before the Thay novels were even conceptualised. Some present events are likely shaped slightly to match a year name, like the Spellplague fire being blue, but the roll is set in stone as it were. So when they chose the Year of Blue Fire, WotC were lumped with all the years around that one - whatever those other years might allude to.
Basically, there is no grand plan around the year names. Eric Boyd and I like to choose year names that "fit" when we craft realmslore, but sometimes that isn't so easy. In some recent work I've been doing, where I've had some events and windows of years to place them in, I can recall cursing a few times that none of the year names really fit with the events I was describing. But c'est la Realms.
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 29 Aug 2012 : 17:02:38
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I make a concerted effort to place fiction in years that fit as well (look at the datestamp on The Last Legend of Gedrin Shadowbane, for instance), but no, there isn't some grand unifying plan, necessarily. Unless there is. 
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
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Posted - 29 Aug 2012 : 18:23:39
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And sometimes there are year names I really don't like and hate when I have to include in a historical record.
(Curse you 82 DR and 155 DR! :-) )
--Eric
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Originally posted by George Krashos
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Originally posted by Dennis
Yes, but the names of more recent years (late 14th century) usually match with some historically significant events, like The Year of Blue Fire, The Year of Lightning Storms, and as the OP indicated, The Year of Dark Circle.
Umm, the "Year of the Dark Circle" was put into the Roll of Years by Steven Schend and his acolytes years before the Thay novels were even conceptualised. Some present events are likely shaped slightly to match a year name, like the Spellplague fire being blue, but the roll is set in stone as it were. So when they chose the Year of Blue Fire, WotC were lumped with all the years around that one - whatever those other years might allude to.
Basically, there is no grand plan around the year names. Eric Boyd and I like to choose year names that "fit" when we craft realmslore, but sometimes that isn't so easy. In some recent work I've been doing, where I've had some events and windows of years to place them in, I can recall cursing a few times that none of the year names really fit with the events I was describing. But c'est la Realms.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 29 Aug 2012 : 19:12:09
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
And sometimes there are year names I really don't like and hate when I have to include in a historical record.
(Curse you 82 DR and 155 DR! :-) )
--Eric
Having just looked those up, I can see not wanting to use them! |
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 29 Aug 2012 : 19:59:35
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
And sometimes there are year names I really don't like and hate when I have to include in a historical record.
(Curse you 82 DR and 155 DR! :-) )
--Eric
Having just looked those up, I can see not wanting to use them!
I wonder what was the inspiration behind those names...  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 29 Aug 2012 : 20:51:06
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Originally posted by Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
And sometimes there are year names I really don't like and hate when I have to include in a historical record.
(Curse you 82 DR and 155 DR! :-) )
--Eric
Having just looked those up, I can see not wanting to use them!
I wonder what was the inspiration behind those names...
From what I've read, a lot of it wasn't much more than matching words from Column A to words from Column B. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 30 Aug 2012 : 02:16:30
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Basically, there is no grand plan around the year names. Eric Boyd and I like to choose year names that "fit" when we craft realmslore, but sometimes that isn't so easy. In some recent work I've been doing, where I've had some events and windows of years to place them in, I can recall cursing a few times that none of the year names really fit with the events I was describing. But c'est la Realms.
-- George Krashos
Besides, we know there exists some "alternative local names" for some years, as Ed has said in the past. Thus, the year names I intentionally craft for my campaign, may reflect this notion and may be region, religion, or even race-specific -- and being entirely different from the dates/years recorded on the Roll of Years.
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 30 Aug 2012 : 07:07:17
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
I make a concerted effort to place fiction in years that fit as well (look at the datestamp on The Last Legend of Gedrin Shadowbane, for instance), but no, there isn't some grand unifying plan, necessarily. Unless there is.
In my one CKC article, if you figure out what was really going on there (which I made fairly obvious), and did all the math, you would find the year my protagonist got shipwrecked (along with many other Ffolk and Northmen vessels) was 1400 DR - The Year of Lost Ships.
At least, thats the year they started out in. 
Getting your stuff to coincide with a year name is always a treat. |
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
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Posted - 30 Aug 2012 : 21:44:44
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
And sometimes there are year names I really don't like and hate when I have to include in a historical record.
(Curse you 82 DR and 155 DR! :-) )
--Eric
Having just looked those up, I can see not wanting to use them!
Time once was, I might have had those in memory or at least within easy reference reach. Now, I don't have the time to go digging up these years but am very curious as to which ones they are.
I hope they're not among the many I inserted into the timeline over the course of various and sundry projects. And since Eric & I tend to share a lot of opinions re: FR lore, I have a feeling they're simply ones that grate against the grain in terms of suspension of disbelief, don't they?
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 30 Aug 2012 : 22:10:34
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82 DR is the Year of the Preordained Youth
155 DR is the Year of the Mellifluous Heaps |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 31 Aug 2012 : 01:50:59
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Originally posted by Steven Schend
I hope they're not among the many I inserted into the timeline over the course of various and sundry projects. And since Eric & I tend to share a lot of opinions re: FR lore, I have a feeling they're simply ones that grate against the grain in terms of suspension of disbelief, don't they?
Even then, I think they'd still work. Because, as I said earlier, Ed has always suggested that local regions may have particular Year names of their own that deviate from the official reckoning of the Calendar of Harptos. So we could always suggest that those "names that grate" are crazy and bizarre names that have popped up from some obscure location in the Realms, eh? |
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drkissinger1
Acolyte
USA
32 Posts |
Posted - 31 Aug 2012 : 19:16:46
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Keep in mind that the names of years don't necessarily refer to anything major in that year. The Year of the Ageless One, for example, could have just been the birth year of someone who would go on to live for an exceptionally long time. It could have been the year that some of Larloch's plans reached a tipping point and became inevitable conclusions instead of hoped-for results. It could have been the year someone found a large cache of potions of longevity.
Or something else entirely.
I suspect Sir Woolsington has the right of it. The name's significance may only become apparent far off in the future, or perhaps never. |
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Veritas
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 18 Sep 2012 : 20:57:43
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| If anything, I'd be entertained by a few years givne names that made sages uncomfortable or were even more bizarre, E.g. The Year of the Flatulent Princess, The Year of the Uncouth Candelabra. Both could signify events of great import ;). Or not! |
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Derulbaskul
Senior Scribe
Singapore
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Posted - 21 Oct 2012 : 04:02:56
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| I've been treating the Ageless One as Manshoon and have a new Manshoon Wars occurring in the background of my current campaign. |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
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Posted - 21 Oct 2012 : 10:06:39
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Originally posted by Veritas
If anything, I'd be entertained by a few years givne names that made sages uncomfortable or were even more bizarre, E.g. The Year of the Flatulent Princess, The Year of the Uncouth Candelabra. Both could signify events of great import ;). Or not!
LOL, that's even better than 82 DR... |
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