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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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 Posted - 07 Jul 2012 : 14:34:35
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Its been done before - plenty of old 1e adventures were updated toward the end of 2e (like Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil), and in FR, you had the Desert of Desolation compilation (which was re-written to fit FR; it was generic the 1st time around).
In fact, I wouldn't mind seeing DoD updated again, and be made even more Realmsian (and its history meshed better). They did a minis line with that name, and I had expected them to do just that in 3e, but no such luck.
The Daggerdale trilogy was interesting as well. There are plenty of old locales/adventures (like what Eric is doing with Daggerford) that have so much more potential, and should be re-visited.
And if they want folks to use (and become interested in) some of the less popular regions in Faerūn then they need to write more adventures/novels taking place there. An adventure path set in the Shining South would go a long way in selling the area to the masses. |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Derulbaskul
Senior Scribe
Singapore
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Posted - 08 Jul 2012 : 08:32:28
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Originally posted by Markustay(snip) The Daggerdale trilogy was interesting as well. There are plenty of old locales/adventures (like what Eric is doing with Daggerford) that have so much more potential, and should be re-visited.(snip
Agreed.
The DDi article Backdrop: Daggerdale really made me want to revisit Daggerdale and the 2E trilogy plus the (rather good) standalone Doom of Daggerdale.
I can see these working pretty much in any era of play; it's just a matter of getting the identities of the key NPCs lined up.
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(snip) And if they want folks to use (and become interested in) some of the less popular regions in Faerūn then they need to write more adventures/novels taking place there. An adventure path set in the Shining South would go a long way in selling the area to the masses.
IIRC, Red Hand of Doom was originally designed for an area in the Shining South. The first campaign I ran in 3E was set there: a conversion of the Night Below with wild elf PCs from the Forest of Amtar. We finished around 23rd-level so even got to use some material from the Epic Level Handbook.
That said, I agree with you. The Great Rift area is perfect for an update of the GDQ series - just replace the Elder Elemental Eye with Ghaunadaur and have Llurth Dreier (sp?) replace Erelhei-Cinlu. I planned to do this in post-Spellplague 4E but it might even work better in 3.eX and the pre-Spellplague timeline (you could even have the events coincide with the Silence of Lolth).
An updated Slavers series would also work there. The Crinti would come into their own story-wise and the grand finale could also be set in a drow city. (What if all these slaves are the tribute that the Crinti have to pay to the drow of T'lindhet?)
Anyway, lots of options - including non-drow alternatives - but I suppose there is no will within WotC to tackle a well-designed adventure path in the Realms or anywhere else. |
Cheers
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NB: Please remember: A cannon is a big gun. Canon is what we discuss here. |
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MalariaMoon
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 08 Jul 2012 : 10:25:00
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Originally posted by Derulbaskul
Anyway, lots of options - including non-drow alternatives - but I suppose there is no will within WotC to tackle a well-designed adventure path in the Realms or anywhere else.
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Derulbaskul
Senior Scribe
Singapore
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Posted - 09 Jul 2012 : 08:39:42
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Originally posted by MalariaMoon
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Originally posted by Derulbaskul
Anyway, lots of options - including non-drow alternatives - but I suppose there is no will within WotC to tackle a well-designed adventure path in the Realms or anywhere else.
But someone might just have the will within the wider FR community
Of course. That's what we DMs do on a regular basis, do we not? ;) |
Cheers
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NB: Please remember: A cannon is a big gun. Canon is what we discuss here. |
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Derulbaskul
Senior Scribe
Singapore
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Posted - 09 Jul 2012 : 11:23:30
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Somehow I missed your post when I first went through this thread.
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Originally posted by Dark Wizard (snip) I really can't recall something being as iconic for FR recently or even in past editions. D&D core had decent adventures and Greyhawk and some other settings are built on them, but I can't think of an adventure that screams "This is the Realms". (snip)
I agree with you.
I think the Realms has suffered from a lack of a really good intro adventure. The Haunted Halls of Eveningstar could have and should have been that but all we got was a pared-down, incomplete shadow of what Ed wrote. Ed's the opposite of Gary Gygax: Gary's stuff was issued incomplete because he never met a deadline; Ed's stuff is issued incomplete because it's hacked down to fit some artificial size limit.
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(snip) Maybe this is partly because WotC hasn't really done many adventure path style publication. There have been adventures certainly, but nothing as memorable. Some of the bigger offerings are known more due to notoriety rather than renown for quality, such as the Avatar Trilogy or 3e era Cormyr/Shadowdale/Anauroch. City of the Spider Queen was kind of niche and not nearly as extensive an adventure at least considering page count. Maybe something like Pool of Radiance and sequels? Most of the others, even the "core" ones like Undermountain were rated as mediocre. (snip)
How about this? WotC does bad adventures and even worse adventure paths.
I still believe that 4E was stillborn because the first adventure they published for the new edition - Keep on the Shadowfell - seemed to be specifically designed to showcase the worst parts of 4E and send DMs running to Pathfinder. It got better with Thunderspire Labyrinth (no doubt due to Rich Baker's involvement who was the only on-staff WotC designer who was [and is] a talented adventure designer and a capable novel writer) and then it turned into an otyugh's leavings with Pyramid of Shadows, certainly one of the worst adventures published in the 30-odd years I've been running this game. The Scales of War debacle was little better, although its late Paragon and then Epic offerings were certainly better than the otyugh's refuse served up in the H/P/E series.
Cormyr/Shadowdale/Anauroch is really good story-wise but it shows all of the warts of 3.5E. I would still love to run it one day but definitely using 4E... and only after I had worked out all of the Shadow Weave-related mechanical issues first.
Even though, at this stage, I have no intention of buying and running D&D Next (if I want a fantasy heartbreaker homebrew that is never finished - oops, in modular form - I will write one myself), I sincerely hope that WotC makes a real effort to give it decent adventure support, ditto for the Next version of the Forgotten Realms.
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Mystic Lemur
Seeker
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Posted - 11 Jul 2012 : 02:52:01
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What I want to see out of D&D Next, is WotC selling the rights to the Forgotten Realms to Paizo. :D
If someone were to make a Pathfinder-style Adventure Path, I'd like to see one set in Occupied Unther. |
"What mattered our lives now, when our world had been torn from us? Folk wept, or drank, or stood staring out over the land, wondering what new horror each dawn would bring." -A review of the FRCG ;) |
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coach
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 11 Jul 2012 : 05:09:53
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| Northern Journey did an adventure path a few years back that is posted here on candlekeep's site |
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Forgotten Realms Adventure Path
