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Wooly Rupert
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 Posted - 07 Sep 2012 : 05:52:51
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Originally posted by Branimir
Has the new edition been released yet?
5E is prolly a couple years away. It's still being playtested. |
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Diffan
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Sep 2012 : 14:03:55
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Branimir
Has the new edition been released yet?
5E is prolly a couple years away. It's still being playtested.
I'd estimate at a early 2014 launch, depending on how much they have done compared to what they're putting out. There are some classes that they apparently haven't gotten right and just from the drastic changes from the 1st playtest Fighter to the 2nd playtest versions shows that they're listening and willing to chnage based on the feedback from the fans. |
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Branimir
Acolyte
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Posted - 08 Sep 2012 : 04:51:19
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| Alright, I suppose I can wait. Real busy these days anyway. Thanks for the responses. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 08 Sep 2012 : 15:17:45
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Originally posted by Branimir
Alright, I suppose I can wait. Real busy these days anyway. Thanks for the responses.
Or try 4E or Pathfinder... 4E is on the way out, but it'd get you playing. Pathfinder is still being supported, so that may be the way to go for a supported game system. |
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idilippy
Senior Scribe
USA
417 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2012 : 15:47:00
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| Also, Pathfinder can be entirely free to play if you don't want to invest in a system. Every single bit of rules they put out are released for free online. So every feat, spell, item, alternate rule, and(most awesome in my opinion) monster or NPC released for Pathfinder by Paizo is on the web for you to use. |
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Diffan
Great Reader
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Posted - 08 Sep 2012 : 18:04:43
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Being a fan of all 3 (v3.5, Pathfinder, and 4E) I recommend ALL of them lol. 4E rules can be downloaded for free at the wizards site (just check the quick start rules) and it gives you 4-5 pre-generated characters to use. Additionally, the produced the cleric (templar), wizard (arcanist), fighter (weapon master), rogue (scoundrel), and warlord (marshal) classes with all the errata for free if you wanted to make your own characters.
Also, there's d20srd for v3.5 material as well as pfd20srd for Pathfinder.
You don't have to wait for another year and a half to play D&D. |
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Gavinfoxx
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 08 Sep 2012 : 21:44:32
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| Pathfinder rules are free online, and there are some 4e rules and some 3.5e rules free online if you know where to look, and the fan-made d20 game I really like, Rule of Cool's Legend, is also free online. |
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Branimir
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 08 Sep 2012 : 23:45:33
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| I wish Forgotten Realms had its own rule set, that'd make this a lot easier x-x And how come there isn't an MMO for Forgotten Realms yet? It'd be way better than WoW. NWN2 multiplayer is too limited, and I never even got to play it outside of Single Play. I'd host a free server for them. |
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Gavinfoxx
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 09 Sep 2012 : 05:34:05
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Originally posted by Branimir
I wish Forgotten Realms had its own rule set, that'd make this a lot easier x-x And how come there isn't an MMO for Forgotten Realms yet? It'd be way better than WoW. NWN2 multiplayer is too limited, and I never even got to play it outside of Single Play. I'd host a free server for them.
That's never been how D&D works... D&D has always been, 'here are the base rules, here are the settings that have some additional rules, that require the base ruleset to work.'
And here is a list of the video games set in the Forgotten Realms, from 1998 on (I'm not listing expansion packs):
Baldur's Gate
Icewind Dale
Baldur's Gate II
Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance
Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor
Icewind Dale II
Neverwinter Nights
Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance II
Demon Stone
Neverwinter Nights II
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Diffan
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 Sep 2012 : 14:48:41
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Originally posted by Branimir
I wish Forgotten Realms had its own rule set, that'd make this a lot easier x-x And how come there isn't an MMO for Forgotten Realms yet? It'd be way better than WoW. NWN2 multiplayer is too limited, and I never even got to play it outside of Single Play. I'd host a free server for them.
I'm sure people have attempted it (a specific FR game system that is), but when you get down to the actual mechanics it starts to look a LOT like Dungeosn and Dragons (being class-based and level-based). So one might just as well go with a highly published game system with lots of support. The best thing we can do is modifiy existing rulesets that work better for your gaming style.
For example, I really really want to get an E6 game off the ground using hte Forgotten Realms. E6, if you don't know, is regular 3rd Edition but caps at 6th level and you progress with feats afterwards to give a grittier, less-high fantasy magic feel. To me, this can easily be achieved within the Realms because those SUPER-EPIC guys get knocked down about a dozen pegs yet still remain pretty darn strong level/ability wise. Plus I like magic-light games so it works for me.
As far as MMOs go, I think the Realms is a great way for one to get started but I think it would lose a lot on the story elements of the setting and there would probably be TONS of confusion about events that happen in the game and whether or not that's considered Canon. I also think you have to get the "feel" right for a Forgotten Realms MMO. It shouldn't be so plot independant as WoW nor should the characters look as cartoon-ish from that game as well. Perhaps more like Guild Wars? I actually wouldn't mind a game-system like Mass Effect for the Realms. That game engine was pretty sweet and I don't see why you couldn't plug in wizard spells/ cleric spells/ martial maneuvers into the game as the system stands. |
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Branimir
Acolyte
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Posted - 09 Sep 2012 : 21:51:21
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Originally posted by Gavinfoxx
And here is a list of the video games set in the Forgotten Realms, from 1998 on (I'm not listing expansion packs):
I know, I've been trying to get an OS9 emulator recently to play BG and BG2 again (the games that first introduced me to FR) but I haven't found one that works. Though I have been playing Pool of Radiance from a NES emulator. xP
None of those, as far as I know, are comparable to the multiplaying style of WoW like I was talking about.
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Extensive list of FRVGs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Forgotten_Realms_video_games
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Originally posted by Diffan
The only reason I mentioned WoW was to express the multiplay style, I don't think it should be based on WoW in any other way, I did not like WoW. Though I did play an iPhone game that was based on WoW, but unique enough to not get them sued, that I actually enjoyed. I can't remember the name at the moment though...
Anyway, there are much much better graphics engines than WoW, the best I've seen thoroughly (through playing the game a lot) would be FFXIII and Fallout 3. (both on PS3, though) The newer FF games might be better but I haven't played them yet. I would think, simply recreate Faerūn, throw in a bunch of NPCs in the cities but only for main characters, and enemies, and let the players pop in and populate the world. Allow to be any kind of intelligent creature, including full orcs, kobolds, dragons, so that the players create the quests for the other players on top of events they engineer themselves.
It would be more cool if it had features to allow players to chop down trees, build homes, dig underground/in mountain homes if you're a dwarf or something, mine for riches, blacksmithing, grow crops, reproduce (like the sims 3 has). And I'd prefer a game style where you get better in skills by actually training in them, like practicing sword making to get better at it, not just killing people/creatures to gain "experience" that leads to levels that gives points to put anywhere. (I've always had a bit of a problem with the experience systems unrealisticness.) And of course fighting with a specific weapon or type of magic would increase skill with it. All of these features I have seen in various games.
I've been saying for years that eventually most video games will have everything the sims has as a base to the variety of games we have. In other words eat and sleep to survive and the ability to reproduce, among other things to make the feel of the game more realistic. FR games have already accomplished a lot of this, you can blacksmith in NWN2, and there has always been fatigue.
As to avoid over populating the game with NPCs I would just have new players be the success to trying to get pregnant of a couple in the game (parents chosen at random, of which fits the new players desired race/ethnicity, from PC and NPCs, PCs getting priority) then the new player can design how they look, limited only to possible features of the race/ethnicity they chose. By ethnicity I mean Sun Elves VS Moon Elves and such.
I'm not a programmer unfortunately but I could come up with every possible feature and parameter to make a game like this functional and good in a sitting. I'm sure a lot of the people here would be good at that sort of thing.
As for staying to the FR story line, when an events date comes up that could be the points where the company starts their engineered events, the main characters (may or may not include the player in the various FR video games) could be NPCs, programmed to accomplish their goals, good or ill, and the players in the game can choose a side, or ignore it entirely, and let it turn out however it will turn out. There's always "multiple timelines" et cetera, so some variance is okay.
As for confusion, that's similar to reality, not everyone is going to know whats going on at every given time, you'll find out from being in the right place at the right time among the NPCS, or hear from other players, or you'll wake up with an army marching over your crops and run into town screaming your head off. I would prefer that, that way its not like everyone in the game drops everything all at once to work on the same thing, which is unrealistic in the real world. And if there wasn't enough people participating in the plot, due to lack of knowledge, empires could send out NPCs to look for recruits for their armies, and what not. |
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Please check out The Church of Lathander and consider converting today. http://www.facebook.com/TheMorninglord
Contact the church to have your sins absolved today. I can perform legal weddings in the name of Lathander. |
Edited by - Branimir on 14 Sep 2012 19:02:23 |
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D&D v3.5 or v4?
