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Gary Dallison
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Posted - 03 Jun 2012 :  20:17:59  Show Profile Send Gary Dallison a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hi all,
Just a quick question, i have been mining the books for lore just to make my campaign a bit more Realmsian, when i came across a paragraph about the Twilight Knight of the Night Masks, it goes as follows.

"the Twilight Night was once a paladin of Lathander who fell from grace during the Time of Troubles after being lured away from his faith by the temptation of power."

Now it may just be me but this seems like more than a hint as to a known character that has been turned to evil, however my complete lack of novel knowledge or anything relating to the time of troubles means i have no idea who this could be.

Anyone care to speculate?

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Jeremy Grenemyer
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Posted - 04 Jun 2012 :  06:13:11  Show Profile Send Jeremy Grenemyer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The 3rd Edition sourcebook Lords of Darkness mentions the Twilight Knight briefly on page 42, 48 and 51. He is said to be an enforcer and one of the Court of Nightmasters; that is, one of Orbakh's four dukes.

That sourcebook lists the Duke of Twilight as a vampire Paladin 9, Blackguard 5.

Hope this helps.

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Gary Dallison
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Posted - 04 Jun 2012 :  07:52:58  Show Profile Send Gary Dallison a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry, my own fault for being vague. I was wondering if anyone had any idea who the identity of this person was (ie which paladin he might have been during the time of troubles)?

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 04 Jun 2012 :  10:47:16  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm not aware of prior references to this guy, or of him being named anywhere.

He's also on pages 53-4 of Cloak & Dagger, but that source says that only Orlakh II knows his true identity.

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 04 Jun 2012 :  15:25:39  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I may have schemes in the making on this point. Stand by!

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

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Hawkins
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Posted - 04 Jun 2012 :  15:28:36  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

I may have schemes in the making on this point. Stand by!

Cheers

You tantalize me, sir!

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Barastir
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Posted - 04 Jun 2012 :  19:40:16  Show Profile Send Barastir a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gosh! I should expect it: an ex-paladin of Lathander turns into a twilight vampire...

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 04 Jun 2012 :  23:41:29  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Barastir

Gosh! I should expect it: an ex-paladin of Lathander turns into a twilight vampire...
Heh. Though I'll say it loud and say it proud: "My vampires don't sparkle."

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Erik Scott de Bie

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ericlboyd
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Posted - 04 Jun 2012 :  23:47:20  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In my defense, I wrote up those vampires long before I'd heard of the Twilight books ... back when "twilight" was still a cool word. :-)

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 05 Jun 2012 :  00:24:04  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

In my defense, I wrote up those vampires long before I'd heard of the Twilight books ... back when "twilight" was still a cool word. :-)
Oh no worries, sir! If you ask me, "Twilight" is still a cool word.

Speaking of, I'd like to run some "Night Masks of Westgate" lore past you if you'd welcome it. Would you prefer PMs or email?

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars"
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ericlboyd
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Posted - 05 Jun 2012 :  00:29:27  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

In my defense, I wrote up those vampires long before I'd heard of the Twilight books ... back when "twilight" was still a cool word. :-)
Oh no worries, sir! If you ask me, "Twilight" is still a cool word.

Speaking of, I'd like to run some "Night Masks of Westgate" lore past you if you'd welcome it. Would you prefer PMs or email?

Cheers



Email is always good. ericlboyd@aol.com

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 05 Jun 2012 :  00:42:05  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Barastir

Gosh! I should expect it: an ex-paladin of Lathander turns into a twilight vampire...



One of my first Hooks in the Candlekeep Compendium was about a Lathanderite paladin and vampire hunter, who became a vampire... He wanted to go back to his home temple to be laid to rest by his colleagues.

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