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Dennis
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 Posted - 20 May 2012 : 01:49:34
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Interesting. That bit about metal-bending was never revealed in the previous series. I will watch the latest episode later...
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I did watch it yesterday, twice. Quite fun. First time seeing Tenzin have some action. Chief Lin Beifong proves to be a truly capable and excellent metalbender.
Metalbenders are able to control metal that have impurities (earth and other matter). Given this new lore, the Avatar should be able to metalbend too. But Ang and his predecessor never had. Perhaps Korra would be the first? |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 23 May 2012 : 05:26:06
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In alchemy (and 'classic' elementalism), a human being is composed of equal parts of all four elements. Ergo, any of the benders should be able to find a sub-specialty they could use as an anti-personal weapon.
Even if you don't take that into account (fire would have to = the lifeforce itself), there are still elements in the blood, and ultra-specialization is possible - even through compounds, alloys, and mixtures - then I can't see why they wouldn't find a metal-bender who ultra-specialized in Iron, and could do pretty-much what a blood-bender could do.
And an airbender should be able to just suck the wind right out of your lungs and suffocate you. |
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coach
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 23 May 2012 : 21:08:00
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Xnella Moonblade-Thann
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 25 May 2012 : 08:41:19
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| @Markustay - The Avatar Series has its own cosmology, it's more asian in feel, and each of the bending arts are specific to a culture within that world; series has no alchemy references that I could find when dealing with the elements other than what nonbenders like Sokka or the Mechanic (a guy who has made several inventions like the balloon-blimp things that are prominent in the last four episodes) have come up with to even the playing field. Water Tribes have waterbending, Earth Kingdom has earthbending, Fire Nation has firebending, and Air Nomads have airbending. Each of the cultures were taught there specific bending from the animals/spirits of that world: Airbenders were taught by the flying bison, Firebenders were taught by dragons, Earthbenders were taught by badger-moles, and Waterbenders were taught by the koi fish (ying and yang) and the moon (push and pull). |
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Dennis
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Posted - 27 May 2012 : 03:04:24
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The world of Fullmetal Alchemist looks interesting. I watched the latest film, and I must say the story, art, and 'magic' are quite good. I thought, given the title, they can only bend/manipulate metal. It appears like they can do it to all elements.
Hopefully, I'll have time to watch at least the first five episodes this Tuesday. |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
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Posted - 27 May 2012 : 03:21:24
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| -That's also on my Netflix list, that I just keep putting off. |
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Xnella Moonblade-Thann
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 27 May 2012 : 16:13:46
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| I like the FullMetal Alchemist: Brotherhood series better than the original series. I have most of it on dvd, except for the last two disks. |
"Sweet water and light laughter until next we meet." - traditional elven farewell
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 27 May 2012 : 17:06:04
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Originally posted by Dennis
The world of Fullmetal Alchemist looks interesting. I watched the latest film, and I must say the story, art, and 'magic' are quite good. I thought, given the title, they can only bend/manipulate metal. It appears like they can do it to all elements.
Hopefully, I'll have time to watch at least the first five episodes this Tuesday.
'Full Metal' refers to the two main characters - the brother Alphonse and Edward Elric. One is 'full metal' (a suit of armor with the spirit of one bound to it), and the other has several metal prosthetics.
Part of their power is their ability to use their unique forms to perform alchemy without the use of circle - unheard of before them (although during the series, I recall they ran into others who could over time).
I've watched it intermittently, not in any sort of order, so it was hard for me to follow the main storyline(s), but I think over-all it is an excellent series and world, with a lot of good logic behind their magic (unlike Harry Potter magic, which has no rhyme or reason to it).
Sometimes I like a certain anime (or novel, TV program, movie, etc) because of the world behind it, and not because of the main character(s). Naruto is a prime example of this - I really dislike Naruto himself, but I have liberally borrowed from their ninja material. Inuyasha is much the same, although the characters have grown on me (who doesn't like a tiefling with a HUGE sword?) |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 28 May 2012 : 01:02:24
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I dislike huge swords. They look impractical and ridiculous. 'Tis one of the reasons I don't watch Bleach and Inu Yasha---though I did a few episodes, and oddly, I liked the latest Bleach film. A story mainly set in hell is almost always interesting. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 28 May 2012 : 04:54:13
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Originally posted by Markustay
Sometimes I like a certain anime (or novel, TV program, movie, etc) because of the world behind it, and not because of the main character(s). Naruto is a prime example of this - I really dislike Naruto himself, but I have liberally borrowed from their ninja material. Inuyasha is much the same, although the characters have grown on me (who doesn't like a tiefling with a HUGE sword?)
I'm not a fan of unrealistically large weapons.
I tried to get into Inu Yasha, because it's by the same mangaka who did Ranma ½ and Maison Ikkoku, but I just couldn't get into it.
Incidentally, there was a reference to Rumiko Takahashi in an Iron Man comic several years ago, and I was so disappointed that no one else caught it... Tony was talking to a Japanese woman named Rumiko, who had on a t-shirt with a chick on it, flanked by the words "piyo piyo." It was a nice reference, but I don't know if anyone else ever caught it. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 28 May 2012 : 05:12:59
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Markustay
Sometimes I like a certain anime (or novel, TV program, movie, etc) because of the world behind it, and not because of the main character(s). Naruto is a prime example of this - I really dislike Naruto himself, but I have liberally borrowed from their ninja material. Inuyasha is much the same, although the characters have grown on me (who doesn't like a tiefling with a HUGE sword?)
I'm not a fan of unrealistically large weapons.
When I think of unrealistically large weapons, I can't help but reflect on the 90's-era of Rob Liefeld art. So terribly unrealistic that it's still awesome! |
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Seravin
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 28 May 2012 : 19:42:37
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| Krynn to me feels so well documented and real. Tracey Hickman and Margaret Weis did an AMAZING job with the Chronicles and Legends in world building. I think it is as well done as Tolkien's Middle Earth to me, I connected better with it personally. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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15724 Posts |
Posted - 28 May 2012 : 19:45:40
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Originally posted by Dennis
I dislike huge swords.
I was being facetious when I said that (poking fun of the 'realistic armor' thread).
Everyone's level of acceptability within fantasy is going to be different - I try not to draw such lines in the sand, and then find myself doing precisely that, every day.
Anyhow, I'd like to say its a 'quality' thing for me - that the quality of the material presented is more important then how stuff looks - but that isn't always the case either.
I like everything from the very RW and semi-mundane (Fire & Ice), with no (or little) non-human races/creatures, to the incredibly fantastical like the world of Majipoor, to the idiotic (many cartoons) and 'pure science'/Scify varieties. I guess its all weather I enjoy the subject matter and writing (and I don't always need both, I have found).
The HUGE hammer wielded by that fellow in Conan (Thorgrim) bothered me, but Inuyasha's sword, not so much. I guess because he is part demon it makes it more believable for me. It took me a while to get into that series, and some aspects still don't sit well with me.
I used to like Dragonball too... I guess there's no accounting for taste. I can't barely tolerate that series now. Doesn't stop me from stealing little bits of it, though. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 13 Jun 2012 : 01:34:53
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Originally posted by Markustay
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Originally posted by Dennis
I dislike huge swords.
I was being facetious when I said that (poking fun of the 'realistic armor' thread).
Everyone's level of acceptability within fantasy is going to be different - I try not to draw such lines in the sand, and then find myself doing precisely that, every day.
People change, I know. There's an implied statement on the sentence above, and that's "...but I may be able to tolerate it, or mayhap even like it, in a distant (or near) future." Besides, I used to dislike Japanese anime because humans and monsters alike have impossibly HUGE eyes.
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Now watching Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. The world is really great, and the characters are quite interesting. The series is full of surprises too, and does not always follow a linear plot. Alchemy seems like a blend of sorcery and science.
On to the 12th episode... |
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Xnella Moonblade-Thann
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 04 Jul 2012 : 10:42:07
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Originally posted by Dennis
I dislike huge swords. They look impractical and ridiculous.
But they can be soo much fun! The bigger the better I always say!   |
"Sweet water and light laughter until next we meet." - traditional elven farewell
Please forgive any spelling and grammer errors, as my android touch-screen phone has no spellchecker. If I do make a grammer mistake, please let me know and I'll try to fix it.
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 04 Jul 2012 : 10:48:48
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Mayhap you're referring to a different kind of sword? |
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Xnella Moonblade-Thann
Learned Scribe
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234 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jul 2012 : 11:00:25
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Aye, Dennis, I am.
Probably not expecting such innuendo from a fair half-elven maiden? |
"Sweet water and light laughter until next we meet." - traditional elven farewell
Please forgive any spelling and grammer errors, as my android touch-screen phone has no spellchecker. If I do make a grammer mistake, please let me know and I'll try to fix it.
New laptop, still trying to sort my "scrolls" on its shelves...and when will this cursed thing stop doing things I tell it not to? |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 05 Jul 2012 : 14:04:32
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| After reading the first 3 Malazan books I can now totally understand why this setting did not receive a vote. The books are great, but Erikson spreads out the setting to much for me to get a great feel for any one place in particular. I did enjoy Darujhistan (spelling?)though. |
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The Arcanamach
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 11 Jan 2014 : 23:09:03
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| I voted 'other DnD setting' because Dragonlance was one of the best worlds created for its time. The War of the Lance series had some of the most interesting characters and plots I've ever read. Even now, decades later, I sometimes re-read that series. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Jan 2014 : 12:45:28
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Already voted for Midkemia a long time ago. But the following deserve honorable mention:
Four Corners of Civilization. Despite the limitations that the narration presents (almost everything is seen only through Kvothe's lenses), those places that are revealed are amazingly vivid and detailed enough.
Scadrial. There are many things that Brandon is good at. And world-building is among them.
The unnamed world of The Black Magician series by Trudi Canavan. It's the familiar East vs. West type, with some oddities here and there.
Supernatural's alternate Earth. The veil between fiction and RW is very thin, and we see a lot interesting things in the former with nods at some elements from the latter. I also like the incorporation of almost all the mythologies in the world (Christian, Greek, Norse, Indian, etc.). |
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Madpig
Learned Scribe
Finland
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Posted - 13 Jan 2014 : 11:03:41
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| Voted other. I think David Eddings has done good job with land of Belgariad. Also thats what brought me to world of fantasy. |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 13 Jan 2014 : 17:10:44
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| Wheel of Time hands down. I honestly believe Wheel of Time world has far more depth and breadth then ME. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
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Posted - 13 Jan 2014 : 17:20:03
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| For level of immersion, I have to go with Middle Earth. Few authors have constructed in whole multiple languages for the setting of their novel(s). |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36996 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2014 : 21:12:24
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Originally posted by Hawkins
For level of immersion, I have to go with Middle Earth. Few authors have constructed in whole multiple languages for the setting of their novel(s).
Actually, it was the other way around. Tolkien was a huge fan of languages, and was making up his own. He realized language is shaped by history, and so he started working on the history to go with it... And in the fullness of time, that led to Bilbo, Frodo, and the One Ring. |
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Drustan Dwnhaedan
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Posted - 13 Jan 2014 : 23:35:38
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| I had to go with Middle Earth, although I was tempted to vote for Krynn from the Dragonlance D&D setting. |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
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Posted - 14 Jan 2014 : 15:13:31
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Hawkins
For level of immersion, I have to go with Middle Earth. Few authors have constructed in whole multiple languages for the setting of their novel(s).
Actually, it was the other way around. Tolkien was a huge fan of languages, and was making up his own. He realized language is shaped by history, and so he started working on the history to go with it... And in the fullness of time, that led to Bilbo, Frodo, and the One Ring.
Either way, multiple fully created languages are a level of depth few fantasy series have. |
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