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Saxmilian
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Posted - 12 Mar 2012 :  17:54:33  Show Profile  Visit Saxmilian's Homepage Send Saxmilian a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Do Animal Companions (or familairs for that matter) gain Feats based on incresed Hit Dice or only the abilities gained from being Familairs and Animal Companions?

Fellfire
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Posted - 12 Mar 2012 :  20:09:10  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You know,it's funny. I just had this discussion with my DM. I believe that they do based on what is says in the back of the Monster Manual, but he did not see things my way.

If you are playing Pathfinder, there is a chart in the Core book that shows exactly how many feats you're animal companion recieves based on extra HD.

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Misanthorpe

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Edited by - Fellfire on 15 Mar 2012 04:50:41
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Kilvan
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Posted - 21 Mar 2012 :  16:21:47  Show Profile Send Kilvan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You might have found your answer by now, but they do. Animals, or any creatures, is allowed a feat for HD increase. This applies to animal companions as well.
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Fellfire
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Posted - 21 Mar 2012 :  18:18:47  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kilvan, can you tell me how exactly that breaks down and where? Both the entry under Druid:Animal Companion and the back pages of the MM seem a little open to interpretation.

Misanthorpe

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Kilvan
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Posted - 21 Mar 2012 :  20:29:24  Show Profile Send Kilvan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Of course. Animals gets a feat just for being alive (1 HD or less), and an additional feat at HD 3, 6, 9 and so on. For example an elephant (11 HD) has 4 feats while a lion (5 HD) gets only 2. Since the Animal Companion class ability grants additional HD to the base creature, it is allowed to grant feats when the creature's HD reaches a level where a PC would get a feat.

I suspect some animals may have bonus feats, but not that I know of. I could be wrong, but animals might also be illegible to the +1 attribute bonus every 4 HDs.

I'm not sure about the source for any of this, I'll let you know once I gain access to my books later.

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Kilvan
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Posted - 22 Mar 2012 :  04:10:05  Show Profile Send Kilvan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ok got it, Monster Manual 1, p.7, under Feat. It pretty much sums up what I've said before.
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Fellfire
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Posted - 22 Mar 2012 :  05:27:55  Show Profile Send Fellfire a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Perfect, Kilvan. Unassailable black and white. Thanks.

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