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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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 Posted - 23 Feb 2012 : 06:01:33
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Soldiers also march home and pillage their own empires when they stop getting paid.
That just makes them mercenaries with matching uniforms, in my book. |
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TBeholder
Great Reader
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Posted - 23 Feb 2012 : 11:03:55
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Originally posted by Ayrik
Aw, gee, what's wrong with cubit-length knee spikes?
It's "kewl"ness not liked by obviously un"kewl" people. Like cubit-length spikes on pauldrons of half that much thickness, or a habit of using spiked chain in the cave, or long neck-rotating handles on the helms...  |
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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore
India
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Posted - 23 Feb 2012 : 11:37:14
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Originally posted by entreri3478
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Originally posted by Thauranil
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Originally posted by entreri3478
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Originally posted by Ayrik
Aw, gee, what's wrong with cubit-length knee spikes?
Pwent was fond of all sorts of spikes
Good old Pwent. His armour was ridiculous but a lot of people loved it.
Battle-ragers. Psht, why can't they just learn to discuss their problems like civilized people? 
Umm because then they wouldnt be battle ragers! |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 23 Feb 2012 : 18:12:03
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I see we're just talking past each other on the point of sexist portrayal, so we can leave that topic behind.
I think the decorations thing is a valuable point. I like seeing elves wearing armor with a leaf/foliage motif, dwarves who go for armor that resembles mountains or flames, etc. Functional and boring hardly mean the same thing.
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Wolfhound75
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 23 Feb 2012 : 18:55:04
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Absolutely agreed Erik!
A piece can still be functional and have a keen visual appeal like the motifs you made mention of. Another example would be Clerical armors which may sport their holy symbol and, depending upon their choice of god, could set the tone for the rest of their armor.
Also not discussed would be 'colored' armors. With the advent of alchemy and magic, it would be easy to add some color to the metalwork either through alchemical or arcane means. Why settle for plain, overused, metal-tone armors (silvery, bronze-tone, gold-tone, etc.) I'd even note that paint surely exists in The Realms and adventurers who are unable to afford custom metalwork accents for their armor might make use of it. Shields are commonly depicted as containing some sort of hearaldic device. I'd have to caveat this though with a caution against over-coloration of the armor itself which could lead to potentially problematic circumstances such as an eye-popping red colored armor granting a bonus to a character's Hide skill - not likely since it sort of stands out.
A few colored accents on strategic parts of the armor though shouldn't change the overall impression that you're wearing a substantial amount of metal on your body in order to protect yourself from blows.
What do you picture for Halfling motif? I've some interest here as one of the characters in the PBeM game is a halfling.
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sfdragon
Great Reader
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Posted - 23 Feb 2012 : 18:57:33
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halfling mtif....hmmmm....
family crests with acorns... |
why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power
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Varl
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 23 Feb 2012 : 19:37:08
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
I think the decorations thing is a valuable point. I like seeing elves wearing armor with a leaf/foliage motif, dwarves who go for armor that resembles mountains or flames, etc. Functional and boring hardly mean the same thing.
What species would the spiky armors motif belong to? |
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Wolfhound75
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 23 Feb 2012 : 19:58:47
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Originally posted by Varl
What species would the spiky armors motif belong to?
Bladelings?
Then again, the armor wouldn't really be spiky as just formed to fit their physique.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 23 Feb 2012 : 20:05:32
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Originally posted by Varl
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
I think the decorations thing is a valuable point. I like seeing elves wearing armor with a leaf/foliage motif, dwarves who go for armor that resembles mountains or flames, etc. Functional and boring hardly mean the same thing.
What species would the spiky armors motif belong to?
Porcupines and hedgehogs. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 24 Feb 2012 : 00:28:07
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Originally posted by Wolfhound75
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Originally posted by Varl
What species would the spiky armors motif belong to?
Bladelings?
Then again, the armor wouldn't really be spiky as just formed to fit their physique.
Good Hunting!
And they're not really just spikes anyway. Planes of Law describes the bladelings as having bones that "protrude in the form of sharp blades of wood and ice and steel." |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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15724 Posts |
Posted - 24 Feb 2012 : 03:22:40
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Can they retract them?
And when they 'pop' them back out, do they go "snikt". 
And now I'm picturing the worst job ever - a tailor in hell. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 24 Feb 2012 : 03:35:03
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I don't think bladelings can retract their skin-blades.
If they could, I suppose, then they probably wouldn't suffer double damage effects from spells like heat metal... because they could just withdraw the blades back underneath their skin before the casting. |
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Artemas Entreri
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Feb 2012 : 13:42:31
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Originally posted by Markustay
Can they retract them?
And when they 'pop' them back out, do they go "snikt".
I'm fairly certain you are thinking of another character who smokes cigars and uses WAYYYYY too much mousse.
*I had to edit my comment because i spelled "moose" originally |
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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore
India
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Posted - 25 Feb 2012 : 06:37:09
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Originally posted by entreri3478
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Originally posted by Markustay
Can they retract them?
And when they 'pop' them back out, do they go "snikt".
I'm fairly certain you are thinking of another character who smokes cigars and uses WAYYYYY too much mousse.
*I had to edit my comment because i spelled "moose" originally
Being Canadian I am sure he has had plenty of 'moose' as well.
But seriously i wonder what would happen to Wolverine if he was transported to the realms. I personally feel that he might fit in more than he does in modern society. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 25 Feb 2012 : 16:26:10
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Originally posted by Thauranil
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Originally posted by entreri3478
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Originally posted by Markustay
Can they retract them?
And when they 'pop' them back out, do they go "snikt".
I'm fairly certain you are thinking of another character who smokes cigars and uses WAYYYYY too much mousse.
*I had to edit my comment because i spelled "moose" originally
Being Canadian I am sure he has had plenty of 'moose' as well.
But seriously i wonder what would happen to Wolverine if he was transported to the realms. I personally feel that he might fit in more than he does in modern society.
Out of all of the Marvel characters, Wolverine is one that could most easily be transported into a D&D setting with little need for "translation".
Of course, a simple heat metal spell would cause him some serious issues... |
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Dennis
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Posted - 25 Feb 2012 : 16:34:45
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He could join the berserkers in Rashemen. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 25 Feb 2012 : 17:47:30
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I wish I still had those two X-Men with Kulan Gath - the picture with the 'Medieval Avengers' was CLASSIC. Cap and Thor translated easily enough, as did the Scarlett Witch. I don't recall what others were there. Found a great pic of how NYC looked, though.
EDIT: that link didn't work for some reason, and when I ported it to Photobucket it got shrunked! Still cool though.
EDIT2: Found another version of the Avengers 'going Medieval' - Wolverine isn't the only one who could pull it off. 
I've been meaning to use Kulan Gath - its not really that hard. In fact, he could be consider quai-canonical to FR (using pretzel logic). Kulan Gath was from Stygia, which is an ancient predecessor of Egypt, and Egyptians (Mulan) made it into FR. Ergo, it is entirely possible Kulan Gath was still around in Egyptian times (being that he has been around since the Hyborian Age to the present), and may have had dealing with the Imaskari.
I find there is far more D&D-useable material in Marvel then in DC comics.
I also liked the concept of Clan Destiny. I guess in D&D rules they'd be Genasi - they have genie bloodlines. The actual group, not so much, but the concept is pretty cool.
And since this thread is about 'fantasy armor' and we've thoroughly discussed 'boobmail', I figure I'd post THIS, just because I found it while looking for a pic of Kulan gath. Enjoy. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 25 Feb 2012 : 18:42:21
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Similar to this. Having just a boobmail, instead of a full armor, is like saying she'd rather die with a stab to her heart than have her boobs cut. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 25 Feb 2012 : 19:04:02
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Not really 'feeling it' - she looks like a Drow in that pic.
Still, I think Boobmail is very effective. Maybe not for fighting, but effective none-the-less. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 25 Feb 2012 : 19:26:28
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Fat men have big boobs. Shouldn't they wear boobmail, too? |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
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Posted - 25 Feb 2012 : 19:40:50
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I do.
I also look sensational in a thong. |
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Dennis
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Posted - 25 Feb 2012 : 20:46:28
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Originally posted by Markustay
I do.
I also look sensational in a thong.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 26 Feb 2012 : 01:08:58
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Originally posted by Markustay
I wish I still had those two X-Men with Kulan Gath - the picture with the 'Medieval Avengers' was CLASSIC. Cap and Thor translated easily enough, as did the Scarlett Witch. I don't recall what others were there. Found a great pic of how NYC looked, though.
The "Heroes Reborn" Avengers had the classic arc which set them in an fantasy Avalon reality, with an almost D&D-like vibe running through it.
I could easily see that storyline and those characters transitioned into the Realms. |
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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 26 Feb 2012 : 06:45:26
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Originally posted by Dennis
He could join the berserkers in Rashemen.
Yeah or a barbarian tribe in Icewind Dale.
I can also see him as some sort of lone wolf adventurer travelling the realms wiping out entire cells of Zhents. |
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Old Man Harpell
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Posted - 26 Feb 2012 : 16:00:25
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Originally posted by Dennis
Similar to this. Having just a boobmail, instead of a full armor, is like saying she'd rather die with a stab to her heart than have her boobs cut.
That's only true if it's straight mundane metal with absolutely no enchantment or magical (or other bizarre) properties, yes? Speaking strictly on function and what's able to be accomplished with fantasy-world magic-enhanced armoring techniques, there's no reason it couldn't provide superior protection.
Plus...that drowish-looking pic...she looks...unhappy.
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Dennis
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Posted - 26 Feb 2012 : 17:25:58
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Originally posted by Old Man Harpell
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Originally posted by Dennis
Similar to this. Having just a boobmail, instead of a full armor, is like saying she'd rather die with a stab to her heart than have her boobs cut.
That's only true if it's straight mundane metal with absolutely no enchantment or magical (or other bizarre) properties, yes? Speaking strictly on function and what's able to be accomplished with fantasy-world magic-enhanced armoring techniques, there's no reason it couldn't provide superior protection.
If it's magical and is intended to protect not just her boobs but her entire upper or whole body, then why not just wear a ring of protection and don 'regular' clothes?
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Dennis
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Posted - 26 Feb 2012 : 17:26:58
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Originally posted by Thauranil
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Originally posted by Dennis
He could join the berserkers in Rashemen.
Yeah or a barbarian tribe in Icewind Dale.
I can also see him as some sort of lone wolf adventurer travelling the realms wiping out entire cells of Zhents.
Or a familiar of a Red Wizard. |
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Imp
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Old Man Harpell
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Posted - 26 Feb 2012 : 18:38:45
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Originally posted by Imp
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Originally posted by Dennis
If it's magical and is intended to protect not just her boobs but her entire upper or whole body, then why not just wear a ring of protection and don 'regular' clothes?
Art and usefulness...Sometimes they don't meet.
Fashion.
I want my opponent to know that I'm a warrior and not a peasant with a sword.
Nicely put! That's assuming that people don't dismiss said warrior's skills out of hand. It'd suck to be them if they got her mad after that, though.
Edit: And she can still put on that Ring of Protection and just give her armor class a further boost!
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Dennis
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Posted - 26 Feb 2012 : 18:58:38
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Originally posted by Imp
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Originally posted by Dennis
If it's magical and is intended to protect not just her boobs but her entire upper or whole body, then why not just wear a ring of protection and don 'regular' clothes?
Art and usefulness...Sometimes they don't meet.
Fashion.
I want my opponent to know that I'm a warrior and not a peasant with a sword.
If the editor of Vogue reads your comment, you'd definitely make her mad!
Who said fashion is only limited to skimpy clothing?
This is a fashionable attire with an armor that barely shows skin. |
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